Victorian Gray
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So why don`t you have your Hajib on?? Being a good subservient Muslim woman...
So why don`t you have your Hajib on?? Being a good subservient Muslim woman...
So why don`t you have your Hajib on?? Being a good subservient Muslim woman...
A corollary to Pascal's Wager is that you have to pick the right god or you're going to hell anyway. Since gods outnumber humans by a long shot, your odds aren't looking too good.Before being religious let s do all the necessary calculations.
If i trust in god and that he exist then i will have eternal life.
If i dont trust then in this case i will lose the possibility of eternal life.
If i do not trust in god and that he does exist then i will not have eternal life.
If i do not trust in god and that he doesnt exist then i will not have eternal life anyway.
From the propositions above we can conclude that there s nothing to lose by trusting in god even if he doesnt exist while there could be a net loss if ever i dont trust on him and that he actualy exist.
That s what is called Pascal s calcuulus, that is, it s statisticaly more relevant to trust in god, as such acceptation of religion is nothing else than some kind of gambling.
That said there can be a lot of fun and good things in "religions" :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pATcvr3zAhg
Joy to the world....
A corollary to Pascal's Wager is that you have to pick the right god or you're going to hell anyway. Since gods outnumber humans by a long shot, your odds aren't looking too good.
Wait are you trying to hit on Victorian Gray for some sexy time there?
Religion is just a club too but the atheists try and say its responsible for all wars on the entire planet earth.
So I gather that if some people believe they are going to heaven and it brings comfort to their lives, that pisses off a lot of other people who don't believe they are and they are determined to destroy this faith that others have. You would almost have to say that such people are assholes. But then again, if the folk who have faith are jumping up and down taunting their less believing friends with "You're going to Hell and I'm not!", maybe its just a natural reaction.
As do those of you who are Atheists. You ask for proof there is a God...we ask for proof there is no God......you say we cannot prove a negative thus no God.......Am I an asshole if I tell someone that I don't believe a talking snake convinced a woman (made from a guy's rib) to eat a magical fruit from a magical tree that caused us to all be condemned to burn in a fire forever unless we accept a zombie who lives in eternal paradise as our lord and savior? These people vote.
I find this post sort of confusing. According to what I've come to understand over the years, atheists for quite a while, compared congregating other atheists to "herding cats" and that they weren't really interested in gathering together. Now that these "cats" are being herded, you seem OK with it, but don't want it called a "church" (which I can understand).
Could it be that you (they) were in denial about having a need to gather all along and now they're simply declining to fight against it?
It just seems to me that some atheists are simply reluctant to accept that FACT that they aren't really different from their religious counterparts, expect in the idea that they replace God with the Human mind, or science.
We always replace God with something else god-like.
For the love of MONEY is the root of all evil
For the love of MONEY is the root of all evil
I Timothy 6:10
Very important distinction
Am I an asshole if I tell someone that I don't believe a talking snake convinced a woman (made from a guy's rib) to eat a magical fruit from a magical tree that caused us to all be condemned to burn in a fire forever unless we accept a zombie who lives in eternal paradise as our lord and savior? These people vote.
we ask for proof there is no God.....
Before being religious let s do all the necessary calculations.
If i trust in god and that he exist then i will have eternal life.
If i dont trust then in this case i will lose the possibility of eternal life.
If i do not trust in god and that he does exist then i will not have eternal life.
If i do not trust in god and that he doesnt exist then i will not have eternal life anyway.
From the propositions above we can conclude that there s nothing to lose by trusting in god even if he doesnt exist while there could be a net loss if ever i dont trust on him and that he actualy exist.
That s what is called Pascal s calcuulus, that is, it s statisticaly more relevant to trust in god, as such acceptation of religion is nothing else than some kind of gambling.
That said there can be a lot of fun and good things in "religions" :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pATcvr3zAhg
Joy to the world....
And here we see the typical evidence of defective reasoning so common among theists.
I've never heard of atheists wanting to be recluses. I certainly never said anything like that. Gathering together isn't a religious act, so I'm not sure why you are trying to use that to call atheism a religion. Atheists have been gathering for years, just look at the Dawkins tour.
Just to preface this thread, I don't have a problem with "Atheist Churches", especially being a religious guy myself, I can see the benefits, no doubt
But what I have taken issue with is the ignorant hypocrisy as atheists generally seem to hate everything about religion, but they are stealing the "best bits" (oh, the irony) except for God with these new Churches:
Oh but it is. According to the OP:
so apparently one of the best bits is "gathering together" cause atheists are like cats...or something.
What's even more funny is his statement is exactly what atheism is, its "blah blah whatever" without God. That's the definition of atheism lol.
OMG, its his way of asking "yeah baby, what are you wearing".
As do those of you who are Atheists. You ask for proof there is a God...we ask for proof there is no God......you say we cannot prove a negative thus no God.......
And yet you also vote -- interesting!
I've never heard of atheists wanting to be recluses.
I certainly never said anything like that.
Gathering together isn't a religious act, so I'm not sure why you are trying to use that to call atheism a religion.
Just to preface this thread, I don't have a problem with "Atheist Churches", especially being a religious guy myself, I can see the benefits, no doubt
But what I have taken issue with is the ignorant hypocrisy as atheists generally seem to hate everything about religion, but they are stealing the "best bits" (oh, the irony) except for God with these new Churches:
http://www.christianpost.com/news/atheist-church-sunday-assembly-opens-in-35-more-towns-127190/
On their official site, them seem to be targeting the socially isolated, lonely, and likely ex-religious cast-offs.
http://sundayassembly.com/blog/2014...oubles-in-size-in-one-day-assembleeverywhere/
Now religion is generally castigated for playing on the emotionally weak and exploiting people, and now some atheists seem to smell the money and are doing the same thing.
:sneaky:
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It just seems to me that some atheists are simply reluctant to accept that FACT that they aren't really different from their religious counterparts, expect in the idea that they replace God with the Human mind, or science.
We always replace God with something else god-like.
The human mind and/or science is g-d-like?