WelshBloke
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I still vote for the local pub.maybe they should consider joining their local Odd Fellows chapter.
I still vote for the local pub.maybe they should consider joining their local Odd Fellows chapter.
I didn't say anything remotely close to that.
But what I'm saying is that gathering with like-minded people is simply human...not just religious.
Atheists basically gather on the internet and spend most of their time talking about something the allegedly don't believe in...and that's God or gods.
You guys spend more time in religious discussions that you do secular, or scientific ones.
I don't believe you, partially. Sure, you'd go to a social gathering, but not because you're new to an area -- you desire companionship etc, just like your everyday religious person.
I still vote for the local pub.
hahahaa yeah, nice try..just admit it -- Atheism is a now officially a religion by any stretched definition....too funny!!
Why do religious people keep going on about this? Don't they realize that by trying to invalidate atheism by calling it a religion they are invalidating their own religion as well? You laugh at atheism because it's 'just a religion' while at the same time your own religion is 'just a religion' as well.
Why do religious people keep going on about this? Don't they realize that by trying to invalidate atheism by calling it a religion they are invalidating their own religion as well? You laugh at atheism because it's 'just a religion' while at the same time your own religion is 'just a religion' as well.
I can see it all now -- what religion are you?? I am a Fundamentalist Atheist!! I belong to the Assemblies of Atheists!!Why do religious people keep going on about this? Don't they realize that by trying to invalidate atheism by calling it a religion they are invalidating their own religion as well? You laugh at atheism because it's 'just a religion' while at the same time your own religion is 'just a religion' as well. <--- so you admit that Atheism is a religion...finally an Atheist that saw the light....I see that hand brother!!
In fact, if atheism really was a religion you could safely convert to it and not worry about the well being of your soul. Unless you believe not every religion is correct in which case you could never know for sure if you are following the right religion. <-- why would I want to safely convert...I am not worried at present about the well being of my soul.....Atheist must be.....after all the are in denial that Atheism is a religion...
This just apart from the fact that anyone with a bit of common sense realizes that the word 'church' isn't meant to be taken literally in this context. For those that don't understand the difference: there is no obligation whatsoever to attend its 'service' unlike a traditional church where religious persons attend service because they believe there are consequences if they don't (yes, there are religious people who never attend service, but the ones that do feel some sort of obligation to). <-- you know little about organized religion and as such you insert your foot in your mouth.....still in denial that Atheism is a religion!!
I can see it all now -- what religion are you?? I am a Fundamentalist Atheist!! I belong to the Assemblies of Atheists!!
your point is what?? Nobody invited you to the party...where is security when you need them?? ah....they are probably beating the snot out of some helpless old lady resisting arrest@!!And you are a Muslim. How's that working out for you?
I can see it all now -- what religion are you?? I am a Fundamentalist Atheist!! I belong to the Assemblies of Atheists!!
your point is what?? Nobody invited you to the party...where is security when you need them?? ah....they are probably beating the snot out of some helpless old lady resisting arrest@!!
Buddhism, Taoism, and Scientology are also affiliations that dont believe in God, but theyre still considered religions and receive tax exemptions.
The below pastor has no problem labeling himself as part of an atheist church; he even preaches from a pulpit and wears religious garb only absent of a clerical collar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egFaJXFTBbw&t=2m42s
So yeah, atheists have a belief system based in countering an eternal truth and a community with gatherings directed at understanding based in this ultimate truth... the very description of a religion.
Atheist organizations also receive the same 503C tax exempt status. Under the law they are considered religious organizations.
The IRS (and DOJ) has asserted that American atheist organizations are tax exempt eligible under the *identical* benefits granted churches, and could indeed register as churches. So I guess you don't deem Buddhism or Taoism religions or that either can be an atheistic system of thought or philosophy. Or perhaps your opinion would be more relevant if you too owned a church.
BTW, Minister Jerry Dewitt is asking for donations for his secular community at his Community Mission Chapel. Don't see how this scenario is any different than a church of Scientology.
http://www.patreon.com/jerrydewitt
I find this post sort of confusing. According to what I've come to understand over the years, atheists for quite a while, compared congregating other atheists to "herding cats" and that they weren't really interested in gathering together. Now that these "cats" are being herded, you seem OK with it, but don't want it called a "church" (which I can understand).
Could it be that you (they) were in denial about having a need to gather all along and now they're simply declining to fight against it?
It just seems to me that some atheists are simply reluctant to accept that FACT that they aren't really different from their religious counterparts, expect in the idea that they replace God with the Human mind, or science.
We always replace God with something else god-like.
I still vote for the local pub.
I vote for you.That's exactly the point except I vote for the local tax exempt pub making the beer and booze much cheaper!
Ehh, the athesit church is really just an atheist club from my point of view.
That said, I have considered myself an atheist since I was about 5 years old when my mom told me thats what people who do not believe in god are called. She was not happy about it because somehow, she was able to suspend disbelief in supernatural garbage and is christian, however, I do not succeeded at believing in magic/impossible things, no matter how fantastic they may be.
Religion is just a club too but the atheists try and say its responsible for all wars on the entire planet earth.
Religion is just a club too but the atheists try and say its responsible for all wars on the entire planet earth.
seriously that the best you can do??? sad..maybe even pathetic....Seriously, how's that Muslim thing working out for you?
If you actually believe what this horrific strawman implies...then it's no small wonder that one with this mentality would hate Christianity or any God that would allow such injustice.
Angry Man Shakes Fist At God
Religion is just a club too but the atheists try and say its responsible for all wars on the entire planet earth.
I doubt anyone is saying religion is responsible for 'all' the was on the entire planet. But, you're lying to yourself if you don't believe a huge amount of bloodshed is a direct result of religion. What's ISIS' driving reason for cutting off people's heads today? A slightly different version of islam compared to others in their area? Would the many Crusades ever have taken place if there was no holy land to go save?