Atheists can be so stupid sometimes

[Crono]

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: FoBoT
yes, atheism is religion to some and will become as radical and militant as other religions as anti-religion atheists outlaw religion and oppress traditional religions

Let me know when atheists start killing people in the name of atheism.

Mao and Stalin exterminated the religious because they were religious.
"The world will be better off when these stupid religious people are dead", and they went about it with a vengeance.


Seriously, the majority of Americans identify with some religion. If they were foaming at the mouth, how is it that you are alive? Your good looks?

My POV is that I really don't care what you are. If you are a dick, I won't like you if you are an atheist or the Pope.

If someone starts on atheists as being immoral child rapers I'll be all over their ass. If some pompous douchebag believes that religious people are stupid, then hey screw you too.

In both cases your shit stinks.

:thumbsup:

 

[Gatecrasher3]

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
We don't need to "raise awareness" for people who don't believe in ghosts, or "raise awareness" for people who don't believe in astrology, why do we need to do it for atheists?

Are there people who try and run your lives and create laws based on ghosts? Are there people who blow themselves up and kill thousands in the name of astrology?

Religion is dangerous. The sooner society gets away from it, the better.

What he said.

 

[ebaycj]

Originally posted by: Gatecrasher3

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
We don't need to "raise awareness" for people who don't believe in ghosts, or "raise awareness" for people who don't believe in astrology, why do we need to do it for atheists?

Are there people who try and run your lives and create laws based on ghosts? Are there people who blow themselves up and kill thousands in the name of astrology?

Religion is dangerous. The sooner society gets away from it, the better.

What he said.

Also, since GodlessAstronomer is from NZ:

Here in the USA, the churchy people like to forget that there are non-churchy people out there. They need to be reminded that their way is not everyone's way. It's not "pushing" atheism per se, but it's more of a "hey remember that not everyone is like you".

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Is anyone stupid enough to believe that the people killing each other in the name of religion would stop if they were atheists? The names would change and the song remain the same.

 

[dguy6789]

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
We don't need to "raise awareness" for people who don't believe in ghosts, or "raise awareness" for people who don't believe in astrology, why do we need to do it for atheists?

Are there people who try and run your lives and create laws based on ghosts? Are there people who blow themselves up and kill thousands in the name of astrology?

Religion is dangerous. The sooner society gets away from it, the better.

:thumbsup:

Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer
Is anyone stupid enough to believe that the people killing each other in the name of religion would stop if they were atheists? The names would change and the song remain the same.

At the very least, people would start fighting over actual causes rather than fantasy.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Originally posted by: dguy6789

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
We don't need to "raise awareness" for people who don't believe in ghosts, or "raise awareness" for people who don't believe in astrology, why do we need to do it for atheists?

Are there people who try and run your lives and create laws based on ghosts? Are there people who blow themselves up and kill thousands in the name of astrology?

Religion is dangerous. The sooner society gets away from it, the better.

:thumbsup:

Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer
Is anyone stupid enough to believe that the people killing each other in the name of religion would stop if they were atheists? The names would change and the song remain the same.

At the very least, people would start fighting over actual causes rather than fantasy.

Whether or not religion is fantasy in your eyes, it is definitely reality to them. You do not get to choose what is an actual 'cause.' The point is "there are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy."

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: MagicConch
Atheism definitely is a religion; a belief system around the concept that there exists no god (otherwise we would be talking about agnostics). At it's core, it is totally irrational like religion, unprovable like religion, and lacking the inherent doubt that exists in all intelligent thought, just like much religion. Oddly you never hear atheists writing ads about how there is no direct evidence for dark matter, etc. so it is irrational to believe in dark matter and you are not a smart person if you do. I personally find atheists more tiresome than other religious people b/c the disparity between what they know and what they think they know is so much larger than say the avg person, who does have some doubt.

Richard Dawkins, probably the world's most famous atheist at the moment, doesn't believe in god. However, he doesn't assert that it is impossible for god to exist, merely that it's extraordinarily unlikely and that there's no evidence for it.

So you need to maybe delete that entire post since you apparently don't understand what atheism is. What it is most certainly is not, however, is a blanket assertion that god cannot exist.

 

[Beev]

Originally posted by: bigdog1218
Ads like this are just the beginning, we'll see them going door to door soon. Like brandonb said, Atheism isn't just about not believing, its about discrediting religion and belittling people.

I actually get a kick out of discrediting and belittling people if they put themselves in a position that makes it easy to do so. It's incredibly fun. Of course, I'm a pretty mean asshole.

I also ONLY bring up my atheism if people try to talk about religion. I don't go out of my way to let someone know how stupid they are for believing in their sky fairy.

 

[Madwand1]

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
This is possibly the stupidest thing I've seen an atheist/humanist organization do.

Why? It's entirely predictable for there to be opposition to religion. It is only mildly surprising that there is surprised internal opposition like yours as well -- as if you're embarrassed by the association. That's silly. Once you adopt the moniker "atheist", you include the strong atheist, the idiot atheist, the wily atheist, the genius atheist, what have you, including specifically the varying degrees of belief as described by Dawkins on one side of his "probabilistic" scale.

To say that atheism is a pure non-belief, and then to say that there probably is no God, is what I personally term atheistic hypocrisy, which I think is at the heart of the apparent internal dispute and supposed embarrassment. The only a priori intellectually valid positions are forms of pure agnosticism which don't pollute themselves one way or the other in divergence from knowledge as distinguished from belief including claims of likelihood in either direction.

The atheist is at a slight disadvantage here because he would like to believe that his non-theistic position is entirely rational and would like to disavow the belief component which puts him on one side of the scale instead of the other. This is embarrassing, in so far as that atheist has failed to recognize or admit that belief and pretends that there is no belief. If there is no belief, then the position is pure agnosticism, not such positions as produce reams of anti-religious writing as in this thread.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
The Big Apple Coalition of Reason have started taking out pro-atheism ads on New York subways and buses recently. The goal is to "raise awareness" of people who don't believe in god. This is possibly the stupidest thing I've seen an atheist/humanist organization do.

We don't need to "raise awareness" for people who don't believe in ghosts, or "raise awareness" for people who don't believe in astrology, why do we need to do it for atheists? I have a fundamental problem with organized atheism, because it's just silly to have an organization of people who don't do something or don't believe in something. When was the last time you attended your "I don't believe in unicorns" meeting?

Furthermore this only reinforces what many religious people have been saying - atheism is becoming a religion. These IDIOTS at The Big Apple Coalition of Reason are employing extremely religious tactics - they are working to try to convert people, they are using in-your-face ads and shoving their (lack of) beliefs down other people's throats. It's offensive and it's counter-productive.

So basically this is a big FUCK YOU to the Big Apple Coalition of Reason and any other atheists out there who are turning a lack of beliefs into a religion unto itself, making it difficult for reasonable atheists to defend our position that our mindset is not a religious one.

if astrologists were banning women from having basic human rights...imposing ridiculous brainwashing, issueing edicts of death for this and that...flying planes into frickin buildings you'd have a point.

Originally posted by: bignateyk
This is why I hate atheists. Agnostics are the way to go. They don't have an agenda.

agnostics are just atheists without a spine. the actual supposed difference is rather bullsh*tty anyways. its like saying you are an agnostic about the easter bunny because like any rational person you'd have to admit there was an infinitesimally small chance of it existing just as any atheist admits this about god. so the terminology difference is mostly bs, the agnostic is wishy washy is all.

 

[Legendary]

These threads are great.

OP: It's a PR stunt. There aren't that many religious groups gallivanting around in NYC, it's just the highest concentration of media in the world. Exposure works best.
No doubt this validates your point but as someone said earlier, in the US ruffling some feathers is just part of the game against a much larger religious machine. Thousands of people in this country go through their life not even considering posing to themselves the question of the existence of a god. They just buy it outright, from the beginning, to the end, and nothing else has a chance.

 

[RESmonkey]

that stuff is there to piss off people, it's just a joke