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Nice try at being cute...
Taken as just words -- they do mean the same thing!
yet if you ask
some Christians or some Muslims do we worship the same God? The answer will be no or could be yes......
When you throw in the human element then you get issues.
http://www.arabicbible.com/for-christians/1810-the-word-allah-and-islam.html
The term Allah (Arabic: الله, Allāh) is the standard Arabic word for God and is most likely derived from a contraction of the Arabic article al- and ilāh, which means "deity or god" to al-lāh meaning "the [sole] deity, God." There is another theory that traces the etymology of the word to the Aramaic Alāhā.
Today's Arabic speakers from all religious backgrounds (Muslims, Christians, and Jews) use the word Allah to mean God. In pre-Islamic Arabia, pagan Meccans used Allah as a reference to the creator-god, possibly the supreme deity.
The first-known translation of the Bible into Arabic, which took place in the 9th century, uses the word Allah for God (1). In fact, Arab Christians were using the word Allah for God prior to the dawn of Islam, and it is important to note that they were using it in place of Elohim, but not in place of Yahweh. That means Allah is a generic word for God, but not the personal name of God. (Radical Muslims in the West claim that Allah, not Yahweh or any other Bible name, is the name of the one true God.)
As an example closer to home, Christians and non-Christians alike use the word God in English, but that does not make the God of the Bible the same as the god of the Mormons, Jehovahs Witnesses, or others. Another example is that when irreverent people use the expression Oh my God! in their day-to-day communications, they are not referring to the God of the Bible when they invoke that term.
You mean stuck in the past when Commies were rounded up and dealt with?
Forward! we go..right into the abyss.
One of the Soviet tactics for undermining the US was/is to remove religion.
It seems there's a LOT of that type of sentiment on here.
If USA embraces your type of thinking, then divided we'll fall.
Fortunately there's quite a bit fewer people who think the way you do.
Religion has held this country together for more than 200 years.One by one
rights and freedoms are being stripped away.99% of the founding fathers were Christian.This is a Christian-based country.
Wow, it's a good thing I'm a lone wolf.
Atheist groups are a weird concept anyway. Do people who don't believe in unicorns organize?
No they're not;They masquerade as "Liberals" these days.Not all Liberals are Communists,but all Communists hide behind the term "Liberal".Total load of shit. The Commies are gone btw.
No they're not;They just call themselves "Liberals" these days.
No they're not;They masquerade as "Liberals" these days.Not all Liberals are Communists,but all Communists hide behind the term "Liberal".
No they're not;They masquerade as "Liberals" these days.Not all Liberals are Communists,but all Communists hide behind the term "Liberal".
The language doesn't matter, the arguments presented above still hold valid.HS Students Say Pledge In Arabic: One Nation Under Allah
Fort Collins high school club takes up Pledge of Allegiance in Arabic
These school officials must read P&N for some very timely humor.
The pledge was spoken in Arabic. Who here is okay with that? :whiste:
HS Students Say Pledge In Arabic: One Nation Under Allah
Fort Collins high school club takes up Pledge of Allegiance in Arabic
These school officials must read P&N for some very timely humor.
The pledge was spoken in Arabic. Who here is okay with that? :whiste:
HS Students Say Pledge In Arabic: ‘One Nation Under Allah’
Fort Collins high school club takes up Pledge of Allegiance in Arabic
These school officials must read P&N for some very timely humor.
The pledge was spoken in Arabic. Who here is okay with that? :whiste:
Doesn't bother me in the least. Anyone that has any intelligence knows that Allah is Arabic for God and has nothing to do with the Islamic religion as Arab Christians use Allah as well.
Yes, I agree and hope that everyone views it as simply a translation.
Which goes to a point I've been making. The Pledge, as it stands, is inclusive of multiple religions, if not all.
I don't think the pledge should be spoken in a language that only some of the students speak. It should be recited in English and all the students can be expected to understand it. Sadly that last part is not always true in areas of the country that have been overrun with invaders, but it should be the case.
You'd better believe that if they tried that crap in my school or my kids school I'd raise heck.
Yes I absolutely believe that you're xenophobic.
Yes I absolutely believe that you're xenophobic.
Wrong. Wanting to have the pledge recited in the language all the students are supposed to understand is not xenophobic in the least. What's the point in reciting the pledge in a language most don't understand anyway? Why not klingon? That's sheer stupidity. Any school official that allowed such stupidity should be removed from school, and any responsible parent would try to make sure such idiots were not involved with teaching their children.
HS Students Say Pledge In Arabic: One Nation Under Allah
Fort Collins high school club takes up Pledge of Allegiance in Arabic
These school officials must read P&N for some very timely humor.
The pledge was spoken in Arabic. Who here is okay with that? :whiste:
Maybe they consider it, you know, offensive, just like when somebody dares to draw a picture of somebodies favorite prophet even though their intentions maybe innocent or light hearted at worst unless the people complaining are homophobic, misogynistic, anti-secular bigots or religious fundies.CAIR representative Hooper told Fox News he was dumbfounded by complaints about the Arabic version of the pledge.
How on earth is it un-American to recite the Pledge of Allegiance in another language, Hooper asked. It doesnt make sense unless the people complaining are anti-Muslim or anti-middle eastern bigots.
Thomas Jefferson was an Arabic Muslim, duh.HS Students Say Pledge In Arabic: ‘One Nation Under Allah’
Fort Collins high school club takes up Pledge of Allegiance in Arabic
These school officials must read P&N for some very timely humor.
The pledge was spoken in Arabic. Who here is okay with that? :whiste:
Wait, so you mean it's NOT establishing a religion like paranoid athiests seem to think?The Pledge is a pointless activity so the language its said in means nothing.
So lets add that to the list of things that the pledge doesn't do:I bet that many criminals said the pledge in school, and I bet that that it did nothing to stop their raping or killing.
What's the point of reciting the pledge? Do you actually think that the pledge makes a difference, English or otherwise?
The Pledge is a pointless activity so the language its said in means nothing.
HS Students Say Pledge In Arabic: One Nation Under Allah
Fort Collins high school club takes up Pledge of Allegiance in Arabic
These school officials must read P&N for some very timely humor.
The pledge was spoken in Arabic. Who here is okay with that? :whiste:
Wrong. Wanting to have the pledge recited in the language all the students are supposed to understand is not xenophobic in the least. What's the point in reciting the pledge in a language most don't understand anyway? Why not klingon? That's sheer stupidity. Any school official that allowed such stupidity should be removed from school, and any responsible parent would try to make sure such idiots were not involved with teaching their children.