atheists

[JulesMaximus]

who cares if 1000 people steal?
who cares if 1 million people get raped?
who cares of 1 billion people die?
who cares of 2 billion universes get destroyed?
who cares...?

So, you have to be religious to care?

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

I saw something on that a while back, and it was different. Buddhists were quite substantially underrepresented in the US prison system. Everyone else was pretty close in percentage to their percentage in the overall population, with atheists being decently underrepresented and Christians being slightly overrepresented.

So basically those with religion are more often criminals, even with the added threat of ending up in 'hell'. And those without religion are less often criminals as they can actually think for themselves and decide themselves what is wrong and what is right to do.

And to the OP:

Since you were most likely hoping to get a negative reply so you could feel superior to those who don't need to be threatened with burning in hell to know that stealing, murdering, raping and other stuff like that is wrong (after all, why would you otherwise open such a troll thread):

Oh, and wrong and right existed long before religious people started claiming that only they were right and everyone else is wrong and that it's right to force those delusions onto others or kill them if they refuse to join your retarded ideology.

You're welcome.

 

[RavenSEAL]

The Crusades.

/thread

 

[RavenSEAL]

Also, honest question.

What's with religious people and shoving shit in other people's faces? Leave us the fuck alone, please.

 

[BladeVenom]

Shouldn't this topic be in Politics and News.

 

[Geocentricity]

I truly enjoy the bigotry demonstrated by some of the non-Christians here. I'm glad that you're able to bash the Christian faith based on actions which are clearly misinterpretations of God's Word (i.e. Crusades, witch burnings, etc).

 

[JackBurton]

To be honest, I sometimes have to remind myself people still take this religious crap seriously. It's like reminding myself there are people out there that still believe in Santa Claus. Yes, it's freakin' retarded, but most people ARE retarded. I've lost hope for humanity long ago. People seem to just want to remain stupid, and I'm tired of talking to them. If they want to be stupid, so be it. Be a moron.

 

[IronWing]

I truly enjoy the bigotry demonstrated by some of the non-Christians here. I'm glad that you're able to bash the Christian faith based on actions which are clearly misinterpretations of God's Word (i.e. Crusades, witch burnings, etc).

From Joshua's genocide in Canaan to "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." it's all part of the faith. Misrepresentation not found.

 

[JackBurton]

I truly enjoy the bigotry demonstrated by some of the non-Christians here. I'm glad that you're able to bash the Christian faith based on actions which are clearly misinterpretations of God's Word (i.e. Crusades, witch burnings, etc).

I bash it because Christianity in itself is moronic. The history of Christianity just makes it that much more moronic.

 

[Lonyo]

who cares if 1000 people steal?
who cares if 1 million people get raped?
who cares of 1 billion people die?
who cares of 2 billion universes get destroyed?
who cares...?

who cares if 1000 people steal? They are going to hell and were sinners anyway and it's part of God's plan!
who cares if 1 million people get raped? It was God's will and part of His plan! Sinners will get punished!
who cares of 1 billion people die? They will go to heaven or hell as God intends! It was part of God's plan!
who cares of 2 billion universes get destroyed? God made them anyway, so he can do what he wants to them.
who cares...? It's all part of God's plan and His will! It will be for the better!

 

[MotionMan]

Morality doesn't come from a book, it is built up from a few innate values put against how the universe works.

The "innate values" you speak of are not positive morals. Human's "innate values" are to be selfish and stupid. People are basically stupid. Think about it: Parents spend most of their time teaching kids what NOT to do because they always want to do the stupid/dangerous thing first.

Smart people are not "innately" smart, they have simply learned how to control their stupidity better than others.

For example, I am going to assume that you believe yourself to be smart. Think about how many times a day you have to THINK about what to do so you don't do something stupid! That is because stupid comes naturally.

Also, any parent can tell you that you have to spend a great deal of time teaching your kids the "right" thing to do (and that "right" thing may be different from country to country or even household to household).

Romans thought it was perfectly fine to keep slaves and have sex with little boys. That was within their "values". There are people and societies today who do not believe or follow what you call "innate values".

There are no "innate values". There is what we think is OK today versus what we thought was OK in the past versus what we might think is OK in the future (and not everyone will agree with what is OK).

MotionMan

 

[MotionMan]

Atheism isn't a religion.

Except that some atheists treat it as such, having conventions, meetings, giving talks and trying to convince others to give up their religion and become an atheist.

MotionMan

 

[MotionMan]

I truly enjoy the bigotry demonstrated by some of the non-Christians here. I'm glad that you're able to bash the Christian faith based on actions which are clearly misinterpretations of God's Word (i.e. Crusades, witch burnings, etc).

All religions are awesome if you ignore all the negative things (even when many negative things are ongoing).

The biggest problem with religion and the religious (including some of my own) is when they can't just keep their crap to themselves and leave others alone (i.e. Crusades, witch burnings, etc). Christianity has not given up on that, so it has earned, and continues to earn, the bashing.

MotionMan

 

[Lonyo]

nm

 

[ioni]

Isn't a gathering of atheists like a religion in itself?
If one were an atheists, a non-believer, shouldn't one requirement be that they not gather...?

Since when does the gathering of a people of a common interest mean religion? There are comic, anime, and video game conventions. None of these are religious.

 

[Sonikku]

who cares if 1000 people steal?
who cares if 1 million people get raped?
who cares of 1 billion people die?
who cares of 2 billion universes get destroyed?
who cares...?

This. If you don't believe in a talking snake you're out of your god damn mind.

 

[sandorski]

Except that some atheists treat it as such, having conventions, meetings, giving talks and trying to convince others to give up their religion and become an atheist.

MotionMan

Are you saying that anyone going to any gathering is part of a Religion(defined by the common interest of that gathering) by the mere fact they are grouping?

Methinks you don't understand what a Religion consists of.

 

[Pantlegz]

who cares if 1000 people steal?
who cares if 1 million people get raped?
who cares of 1 billion people die?
who cares of 2 billion universes get destroyed?
who cares...?

Atheists apparently don't care about anything In that case I'm going to start a rape/murder spree and blame it on my lack of religion

 

[MotionMan]

Since when does the gathering of a people of a common interest mean religion? There are comic, anime, and video game conventions. None of these are religious.

Have you ever been to one of those conventions?

MotionMan

 

[ioni]

Have you ever been to one of those conventions?

MotionMan

I've been to all of those types of conventions.

 

[MotionMan]

I've been to all of those types of conventions.

And you did not find <purpose of convention> fanatics who would argue with anyone that their view of <purpose of convention> was correct simply because that was what they believed?

MotionMan

 

[MotionMan]

Are you saying that anyone going to any gathering is part of a Religion(defined by the common interest of that gathering) by the mere fact they are grouping?

Having a convention of atheists IS a religious (or, I guess, anti-religous) gathering, IMO.

Methinks you don't understand what a Religion consists of.

I think that, for those for whom atheism is a cause, it is no different than any other religion. How does preaching about the lack of a G-d really differ from preaching about the existence of a G-d?

MotionMan

 

[mnewsham]

I think that, for those for whom atheism is a cause, it is no different than any other religion. How does preaching about the lack of a G-d really differ from preaching about the existence of a G-d?

Do you think atheist sit around and preach about there not being a god? No, in fact I think they would discuss things like atheist prejudice in society, how to combat this. Things of that nature.

 

[sandorski]

Having a convention of atheists IS a religious (or, I guess, anti-religous) gathering, IMO.



I think that, for those for whom atheism is a cause, it is no different than any other religion. How does preaching about the lack of a G-d really differ from preaching about the existence of a G-d?

MotionMan

Your Opinion is wrong.

 

[MotionMan]

Do you think atheist sit around and preach about there not being a god? No, in fact I think they would discuss things like atheist prejudice in society, how to combat this. Things of that nature.

No, I do not think they all sit around and preach about there not being a G-d, but many do.

As for the other things they do at a convention, how does that differ from a convention of a religion?

MotionMan