Athlon 64 E revision to require new motherboards?

[cjacobs2]

The Inquirer is reporting that there have been issues with some NForce 3/4 boards shutting down or refusing to boot when used to demonstrate Revision E (Venice core, I think) CPUs @ CeBIT. AMD says it may be related to "thermal regulation protection" and that various boards may be affected with no remedy. See the link below for details.

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=21780

I, like many others, see my NForce 4 board as a good upgrade path for the future, though I personally will wait 'till dual core. If true, this would mean we're all SOL.

 

[bookman]

Now THAT must be embarassing for AMD, to have their CPUs fail at the largest computer show!

 

[imported_Kensai]

Ouch. Poor AMD.

 

[KDKPSJ]

Originally posted by: cjacobs2
I, like many others, see my NForce 4 board as a good upgrade path for the future, though I personally will wait 'till dual core. If true, this would mean we're all SOL.

Well.. most of non-highend dual cores will be socket M2. Only few high-end line-up (including FX) will be 939 anyway. Yes, I disappointed a lot by this, and seriously thinking about going Intel's 945 platform, which is around the corner for market release and officially supports Pentium D.

I never knew the day I can say "Intel for the future proof" would be reality.

 

[ChineseDemocracyGNR]

How can you be seriously considering something based on an article from The Inquirer?

And are you completely forgetting about the 915/925 and the fact that they don't support the Pentium D?

 

[KDKPSJ]

Originally posted by: ChineseDemocracyGNR
How can you be seriously considering something based on an article from The Inquirer?

And are you completely forgetting about the 915/925 and the fact that they don't support the Pentium D?

Well, I said that because I am planning to order the system in few months, not right now. So, in my position, I am sure that it would be way more reasonable to buy 945 for the future.

Sorry but I really don't care about what they "did" before. I am only interested in what "is" going on. And even if I care about what Intel said before, there was no official announcement that Intel saying 915/925 would be compatible to Pentium D, at least I heard of. The users just assumed that 915/925 would be compatible to PenD. It turn out to be 915/925 isn't compatible, so what. Did Intel ensure those would be compatible? I don't think so.

Yeah, I don't believe in The Inquirer at all. But it is also true that they bring somewhat reliable information this day.

 

[B S D]

Hi,

What CPU does this refer to?

Is it any 90nm Socket 939, or is there a newer 90nm version I should be looking out for?

-- David

 

[ChineseDemocracyGNR]

Yes I know, that was just a comment on the "Intel for the future proof" statement and how invalid it is.

 

[KDKPSJ]

Originally posted by: ChineseDemocracyGNR
Yes I know, that was just a comment on the "Intel for the future proof" statement and how invalid it is.

I know That's why I said "I never knew" the day I can say that would be reality. But for now (with information available), the statement is not invalid at all.

Intel - Introducing 945/955 for Pentium D. Pentium D supposed to be mainstream at least until 2006 or 2007. No plan of socket switching until then as well.

AMD - Used to say s939 will be mainstream for a while. But now, with the newest roadmap, dualcore will be available only as high-end line. And in 2006, all the line-up, from socket A to Socket 940, will be replaced with M2.

Well, again, it's only based on the information available "right now." If, for example, AMD decides to introduce its low-end dualcore for s939, my decision would be changed. But for now, I don't think my statement is that much wrong.

 

[Striatum]

DFI SLI-DR revision R.A00 does not boot with a new Athlon64 3500+ which I suspect being the incompatible revision E.
Has anyone tried the BIOS 2005/3/10 version with A64 rev. E - will it fix the incompatibility?

 

[Waylay00]

Where did you get your Rev. E?

 

[Rodamus]

Originally posted by: Striatum
DFI SLI-DR revision R.A00 does not boot with a new Athlon64 3500+ which I suspect being the incompatible revision E.
Has anyone tried the BIOS 2005/3/10 version with A64 rev. E - will it fix the incompatibility?

3/10 Supports it - Ultra D

3/10 Supports it - Ultra SLI-D

3/10 Supports it - SLI-DR

 

[Fenuxx]

Well, as far as I'm concerned, I'll believe it when I see it. The Inquirer information should be taken with a grain of salt, as they've provided much false information in the past, and I will admit that they also have provided solid info as well.

Socket 939 will be supported as the high-end until roughly mid-to-late 2006, then Socket M2 will take over. The first 3-4 dual-core revs will be for Socket 939, not M2. So, anyone planning a 939-based system is pretty much OK until then.

As far as the Intel thing goes. You go ahead and get yourself a space heater. I don't care if "Pentium D" uses a pair of "good" Prescott cores, they're still Prescott. When Intel switches to its dual-core Pentium M-based CPU, then there will most likely be a socket change, so as far as I see it, LGA775 is about as "future-proof" as Socket 939.

 

[ChineseDemocracyGNR]

From OCWorkBench.com:
"ASrock CPU support list for Rev E cores (SSE3)
Posted by overclocker at 14:56

I received a K8 CPU support list for the ASrock K8 S754 and S939 boards. From the chart, it can be seen that all the following S754 boards support the Rev D and E CPUs (Sempron 2600+ ~ 3300+). Revision E means SSE3 support.

They are :

K8 Combo-Z, K8UPG-1689, K8UPG-VM800, K8UPG-760GX, K7UPG-600, K7UPG-880, K8A8X-M

For Socket 939, Sempron 3000+,3200+ are support. 3000+, 3200+, 3400+, 3500+, 3700+, 3800+ are all supported on teh following boards :

939A8X-M, K8Combo-Z, K8UPG-1689, K8UPG-VM800, K8UPG_760GX

* all the above are supported by the current released BIOS. "

 

[Fenuxx]

But that's only ASRock. What about other brands? ASRock is only a small portion of the mobos out there, and on top of that, they're budget boards as well. However, I draw the conclusion that if budget boards will work with "Rev E's", then most other recent boards will work fine with them as well.

 

[ChineseDemocracyGNR]

ASRock boards are budget but their support is very good actually.

But the point was, if all of their boards work with the new revision there shouldn't be a problem for anyone else.

 

[Promethply]

The Inquirer has a tendency to "jump the gun"

Just so that they'll be the first with the news.

Here's a more realistic assessment:

The compatibility of the E3 stepping with different Socket 939 mainboards.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

They are the quintessential yellow journalists of the computer industry.

 

[Hyperlite]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
They are the quintessential yellow journalists of the computer industry.

exactly

 

[juysocal]

DFI ultra d boards supports amd revision e

Here is a list from DFI board

http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9089&highlight=rev

 

[kcbass]

I was looking at getting an msi k8n neo 2 platinum....am i in any danger of getting incompatible parts?

ok...checked the link above and noticed they said there wasn't a problem.

I was planning to get a 64 3200 90nm 939, but now considering a rev e. Will my plan to use a thermalright xp-90 hs still be ok?

 

[MDE]

Epox released an updated BIOS for the 9NDA3+ that supports Rev E CPUs.

 

[dropadrop]

It seems there is still a little bit of truth to the rumour. Shuttle is suggesting that Venice and San Diego won't work with the SN95G5 based on the nf3 250 chipset.

 

[ChicagoPCGuy]

The 3/22/05 BIOS from EPoX supports the Rev. E for the 9NPA+ Ultra....