athlon xp 1700 temps.

[jgravance]

I have an athlon 1700 in an asus a7v8x-x. My temps are up around 70 degrees celcius, during idle. I have heard palominos run hot, but 70 degrees? Is this normal?

 

[ssvegeta1010]

That is definitely not normal. Is your heatsink making proper contact with your processor?

Check by touching your heatsink when you are idling. Is it extremely hot, hot, warm, or cool?

 

[jgravance]

it was pretty warm, but i could hold my fingers there (it was never too hot that i had to let go).

 

[jgravance]

wow, when i opened my case temps dropped 5 degrees, could it be case airflow?

 

[superfly27]

Just to give you something to compare with, when the temperature was a little cool in my room, my case temperature was 29'C and the CPU was 38'C. When it was very warm in my room, the case was 36'C and the CPU 51'C. (For Duron 1.8 GHz.)

 

[BillyBobJoel71]

that is abnormal as most cpus don't even come close to that temp when under full load.

 

[Xemus]

A 5 degree drop hints that you may need more fans or better cable routing. That always helps anyway tho.
70c is way over where you should be. You shouldn't be hitting more than the low 50s under load, even in a hot environment, so you need to figure out what is causing the excess.
Most likely, you either have excessive thermal paste on your die, or your heatsink needs to be reseated. Too much thernal is bad for the CPU, so make sure there's just a light covering (roughly the thinkness of a piece of paper).

 

[Vegitto]

Seriously, invest in a better HSF, some thermal grease, and seat that HSF properly. I'm suprised your chip held that up for this long.

 

[jgravance]

i cleaned up my case a little and checked the cooler/cpu connection and thermal paste. i got it down around 55-57 degrees idle, which is still quite hot. here is my cpu cooler, not much, but still should be keeping the cpu cooler than it is, right?:http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/...em-details.asp?EdpNo=1055325&CatId=792

 

[Concillian]

Palominos ran pretty hot. Idle in the 50s and load in the 60s is about all you'll get without more significant cooling or underclocking.

If your HSF hasn't been cleaned out in a while, buy a can of compressed air and blow out the dust... though it sounds like you already did that with new paste and it helped quite a bit. If you aren't seeing instability you have no reason to worry really.

 

[imported_Kiwi]

Originally posted by: Concillian
Palominos ran pretty hot. Idle in the 50s and load in the 60s is about all you'll get without more significant cooling or underclocking.

You are probably thinking of Thunderbirds, which ran *quite* hot.

If your HSF hasn't been cleaned out in a while, buy a can of compressed air and blow out the dust... though it sounds like you already did that with new paste and it helped quite a bit. If you aren't seeing instability you have no reason to worry really.

I've had Thunderbirds, Palominos, Thoroughbreds, and Bartons. Most of my experimenting with all of them has been confined to the immediate past year and a half. I've never tried any Durons, though. The old T-Birds were the ones that idled high, and skyrocketed under load. They were also rated to handle that heat more than newer XP's were. For the sake of comparison, here is a recent swap I've done, from a T-Bird 1400 to a Palomino 2100. Right off, the temps dropped from a typical 40 for the system and 45 for the cpu at idle, to 38 for the system and 39 for the cpu.

The T-Bird I was dealing with had a smaller, all aluminum heat sink, that had been upgraded with a 60 to 80 fan adapter, but that had only made it quieter, not very much cooler. Anyway the 39 degree reading was obviously wrong, and it turned out that the only cpu known to that BIOS that had a 13.0 multiplier was an XP 1400, with a speed of 1300 and a 100 MHz FSB (so the system was slower with the old BIOS and new cpu). After a BIOS Flash, it's still idling at 38 for the system, but it's now 42 for the cpu. Where the T-Bird could reach the *high 50's* under a load, I haven't seen *this* Palomino (there are actually three on hand and operating) exceed 50 Celcius yet.

 

[Elcs]

Originally posted by: Kiwi

Originally posted by: Concillian
Palominos ran pretty hot. Idle in the 50s and load in the 60s is about all you'll get without more significant cooling or underclocking.

You are probably thinking of Thunderbirds, which ran *quite* hot.

The Palominos were also considered a rather hot chip.

I live in North East England where its pretty cold in winter and mild in the summer. My old XP1800+ Palomino hit around 55C at load with my old Volcano 7+ on low.

Contrasting with my SLK900A and 92mm Panaflo L1A keeping my T'Bred B 1700+ at stock at around 42C under gaming load on a pretty hot day today.

 

[imported_Kiwi]

A T-Bird was my reintroduction to AMD cpu's (I'd not seen much from the k5/K6 and had some Pentiums between my last AMD 486 and the first of my two T-Birds). But I've avoided the stock hsf's for my AMD processors for the most part. I've tried a couple of the Volcano hsf's. I found them no better, and maybe even worse, than what the Boxed CPU comes equipped with (right now, I have a low-noise hsf on an XP 1700 in a Biostar MB that idles at 41-43 degrees Celcius; I haven't pushed it to see what it does under stress. This particular heat sink was on sale at Newegg for half off the MSRP - it's an XDream II, and hasn't been rated at the better HSF testing web site, FrostyTech, but I didn't expect it to be anything special).

I live where winter lasts about one month, occasionally up to six weeks, and during a five month long summer, the high 90's are common, and the 100's are frequent visitors (south Texas). With two sub- 1 GHz Pentiums, and one T-Bird in a room with a 6000 BTU window AC unit two years ago, I could easily have kept all three on at the same time in summer. Two T-Birds by themselves were enough to overmatch that heat total. Two Palominos and one Barton "seem" to be throwing off roughly the same total heat production, but it's a bit hard to be sure, since there has been growth in here for other heat sources as well (another printer, a printer server device, etc.)