Athlon XP 2000 for $75 shipped @ Fry's Outpost (DEAD but taunting us from beyond the grave)

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RadioUdotCom

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I know this was a pricing error and all but the way Outpost handled this was totally wrong. I have been lied to by outpost on this a couple of times. I was told I could keep the order for 109 and then 2 minutes later I could not have it at any price because it was no longer available from the manufacturer. 3 days after that it was for sale on thier site again. I think it took them that long to fix their web page or something.

I made the mistake of returning that voicemail so I was presented with the option to keep the order for 109 or cancel so I lost out.

I was told that ALL backorders were canceled. Now I know that quite a few were not and are now shipping at the 69 price.

I just filed complaints with the BBB in CT and CA over this whole thing.
 

alluu

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the business ethics of outpost (ie frys) are horrible. i got lucky and never called them back. didn't want to get into a screeming match with them on the phone and luckily they shipped. 2 extra processors though.
 

BigEdMuustaffa

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Has anyone besides me, noticed that in the description of this chip, OUTPOST describes this chip as the MOBILE processor for notebooks. Most people including myself plan to use it in a desktop pc. I called AMD and they said, the chips are different. Does anyone know for sure if this chip from Outpost is for desktop or notebook?
 

Salvador

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Newegg: AX2000DMT3C
This is the model number chip I got from Outpost (tray=OEM) and at Newegg, it's the XP 2000+ OEM. I have no idea what the mobile processor is or what makes it different. Do you have a model number for it?

Sal



 

alluu

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Received my order today. All three were AROIA 0219WPMW. Although one is greenish while the others are pink. Thanks for the deal MrGrumpyPants. Hope the one I select oc to at least 1825mhz.
 

alluu

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Okay, I didn't notice but one of the cpu had a bent pin. So I call up outpost and they are like sorry (didn't actually say sorry) we won't exchange for you. You can return it by shipping it to us and we will credit you 69.99. I got angry and told her that this is ridiculous. She went on to say that that is what you get for receiving something that was mispriced. I am going to call Amex and see what happens with there extended warranty benefits program. I rather send it to them than give it back to Outpost. I'll take my $70 back but no way is it going through outpost. Maybe AMD will do the exchange.
 

alluu

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anybody try and bend the pins back before. it is the outmost pin.

on the other hand, the processor is great...running at 1750 mhz for now.
 

Salvador

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anybody try and bend the pins back before. it is the outmost pin.
You can probably bend it back carefully with a pair of tweezers. I never tried it though, so proceed at your own risk.

What was this about the processors being a mobile processor? Is this just a misprint on the website? Mine looked normal to me, but what do I know?

Sal
 

BigEdMuustaffa

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Originally posted by: alluu
Received my order today. All three were AROIA 0219WPMW. Although one is greenish while the others are pink. Thanks for the deal MrGrumpyPants. Hope the one I select oc to at least 1825mhz.


Pink????

 

JubJub4

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if a pin is bent use a slot gaurd from the case bend it back evenly with the other pins
 

BigEdMuustaffa

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So, you folks that got this XP 2000 and put it in a system, how is it working? Here's a reply I got from AMD when I inquired about the differences between the mobile xp 2000 and the desktop xp 2000:

"Hello,

Thank you for contacting AMD's Technical Service Center. If it is in
fact a mobile processor it may or may not work in a desktop system.
The BIOS of a desktop motherboard may not recognize the CPU and also
may not be able to provide the proper voltage. AMD does not recommend
or support the use of mobile CPUs in a desktop system.

Hope this helps."


What do you think?
 

BigEdMuustaffa

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Some specs from the AMD webpage:

AX 2000 D M T 3 C

Max FSB: C = 266 MHz
Size of L2 Cache: 3 = 256 Kbytes
Die Temperature: T = 90ºC
Operating Voltage: M = 1.75 V
Package Type: D = OPGA
Model Number: 1500 operates at 1333 MHz, 1600 at 1400 MHz,
1700 at 1467 MHz, 1800 at 1533 MHz, 1900 at 1600 MHz,
2000 at 1667 MHz , 2100 at 1733 MHz
Generation: X = High-Performance Desktop Processor Family
Architecture: A = AMD Athlon? XP Processor Model 6 Architecture


There is quite a bit of confusion at the AMD webpage and when you speak to AMD tech reps regarding the difference between mobile cpu and desktop cpu. I think all Socket A variety AMD cpus can operate in a desktop mb. I will keep emailing them until I get this all cleared up. I'd hate to get a great price, on this and then find out I can't use it...
 

RBC

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I did a search on AX2000DMT3C and I can't find any other references to it being a mobile processor other than Outposts original description. In fact, I found several retailers offering this one as part of a desktop combo. Mine is a green one, just like the 1700+ I bought earlier this year.
 

jcarson

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All this mobile talk is funny. I ordered one, got it, and am typing this on it. I have been using it since the day after the orignal post. I ordered it overnoght and it shipped the same day, and I recieved it.

Works great. If you can get it at this price GO!! If you get it and it doesnt work, return it.
 

RBC

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Newegg lists the exact same sku as this one, AX2000DMT3C, and there's nothing about it being a mobile. Outpost screwed the price and item description. AMD wouldn't have the same sku for both a desktop and mobile version of this processor.
 

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Rec'd mine yesterday, a day late because no one home to sign for it on Wed. It is an "AROIA" stepping. Will install it this evening. Don't expect there is a lot of headroom to OC this thing but not really that important to me anymore.

Suppose I am getting a little jaded but I find many of these posts about hoping to bump up one or two speeds amusing. CPU speed is so cheap that if you need that extra "oomph" (for whatever), buy it and save yourself the time, hassle and risk of unlocking. Besides, the CPU is rarely ever the bottle neck any more...it's your vid card and hard drive.

OC'g was a whole different story when you could take a sub $80 celeron, increase the FSB by 50% and rival Pentium performance costing $200-$300 more. The improvement in gaming performance was readily apparent in actual use. Now, with frame rates in the 100+ range at high resolutions, due primarily to improvements in video cards, the supersonic CPU speed is becoming less important. If you go back and reread the better hardware reviews that include CPU scaling, you will see what I mean. Here's something to think about, few monitors have refresh rates fast enough to keep up with the frame rates the CPU/vid card can deliver.

Apologize for going so far OT...what I really wanted to say was thanks for initial post making us all aware of a truly nice deal.
 

Hobbes28

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Thanks again MrGrumpyPants!,

I got mine Wednesday (10/09), AROIA "9" running @ 12.5X144=1800, BIOS reports 1807, MBM5 reports 1806 cooled by a (get this) SVC GC-68 ($5.99 HSF) @ 97F (36C) idle and max temp of 115F (46C) under heaviest load. This 2000+ XP runs cooler (by about 7F) than the 1700+ it replaced under exact same conditions. I was worried that it would run hotter. I had it to 1850 for a short time just to see if it would go and it did with no problems but I'm gonna break it in some before I turn it loose!

Not bad for $69.99 and it purrs like a kitten...

FYI:

Shuttle AK31 v3.1
512k Samsung PC2700 DDR -TCB3
ATI Radeon 8500
2 X 120GB WD Hard Drives

Later...
 

BigEdMuustaffa

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What do you mean when you say "9"?

This is what mine says on the chip, so which did I get?

AX2000DMT3C
AROI0129WPMW
92046740678
 

Engineer

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Ooooo.....just got my credit card statement and the deal got a little sweeter for me....

Outpost.com is one of the retailers my e-card gives a 5% rebate on...so the two XP2000's I bought were $69.99 each + the two day shipping price - 5% of that total!

/me likes!
 

Hobbes28

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BigEdMuustaffa,

Seems most people refer to the line after the stepping code (in your case and mine, AROIA) as the "sub-steppping code" which in our case is "9" (first number or letter of that line). Typically for some reason "Y" always seems to be a good overclocker and in this case "9" seems to do very well also. We have exactly the same chip and I've had mine up to 1850 MHz with no problems @ 1.85V on the VCore with cheap air cooling ($5.99 - SVC GC-68).

Good luck to ya...
 

BigEdMuustaffa

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Originally posted by: Hobbes28
BigEdMuustaffa,

Seems most people refer to the line after the stepping code (in your case and mine, AROIA) as the "sub-steppping code" which in our case is "9" (first number or letter of that line). Typically for some reason "Y" always seems to be a good overclocker and in this case "9" seems to do very well also. We have exactly the same chip and I've had mine up to 1850 MHz with no problems @ 1.85V on the VCore with cheap air cooling ($5.99 - SVC GC-68).

Good luck to ya...


Cool, er pardon, no pun intended....

So if I don't OC mine, it should run fine with the GC-98 hsf? I'm happy, happy.


 

Hobbes28

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Yeah, you should be ok, I'm using a GC-68 @ ~1807 MHz (12.5X144) and my temps are 98F (37C) idle and never higher than 114F (46C) under load.

Later...

Hey! I'm finally in triple digit posts! (100)
 
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