Athlon XP2000+ trouble puzzle

[Viperbob]

Ok hears my tale of woe, I just recently got an OEM XP 2000+ AGOIA and droped it into my system replacing my 1700+ I used artic silver 2 and I have a Alpha Pal 8045 so heat isnt the problem (it ran between 42 to 46 c) the wierd thing is as soon as I used a open gl application (screen saver game ect.) it would either freeze or give me a BSOD

So I flashed the latest bios to my MB (Asus AV266-e) thinking it might help and Ive changed nvidia drivers the problem persisted, So I put my old 1700+ in and everythings fine again

I just cant figure this out could my cpu be bad? I tried to return it but it does work (just not well) so I couldnt get a swap (It was Krex computers BTW) Am I outa luck here?

 

[mechBgon]

What brand/model of power supply are you using? When your video card kicks in on an OpenGL app, it's going to start using more electricity. Maybe you need something beefier?

 

[Viperbob]

Ahh my bad I havent posted for awhile heres my particulars

Sorry I didnt post them my psu is a loud POS but it isnt the problem (I'd love to ditch it!)

Asus AV266-e
512 megs crucail 2100ddr
80gig WD
20gig WD
400 watt ps a-1 electonics
adaptech 2940 uw
plextor 8/20
toshibia dvd
Gainward gef2/pro

 

[mechBgon]

Well, I did a Google search for "400W a1 electronics power supply" and the results seem to indicate they're not very good. I've recently seen "400W" power supplies with actual 3.3V + 5V combined capacities of only 180W, which is lower than many quality 300W units these days. I'm going out on a limb and guessing your power supply is not supplying enough power for the new CPU. If you want a suggested replacement, a 350W or 400W Sparkle Power, or an Antec TruePower 330, 380 or 430, or perhaps an Enermax 465-series would be ones I'd consider at this point. The 350W Sparkle Power is only around $42.

edit: guess it's worth mentioning that I did look up www.a1electronicsinc.com to try to find the claimed PSU specs, but they have no particulars, except for a note that their failure rate is under 3%.

edit #2: cool, found a place where you can also buy Antec's SL300, SL350 and SL400: MWave is stocking the SL's now. They're the baseline Antec units, and for a fairly loaded system like yours I would consider the 350 and 400 out of the SL's.

 

[Viperbob]

You know I'll give it a look this A-1 400 watt is loud anyway and this xp2000+ is useless to me as it stands right now it even now hangs when I try to start a program.

Well its back to the old 1700+ for me till I can resolve this

 

[CraigRT]

The power supply idea might be bang on.

In my Athlon rig, when i had my system all overclocked and running all my drives and such, the thing woud lock a little bit into a 3d game and i would have to hard reboot. i tried everything, eventually thought of the PSU and replaced it. it was fine ever since with NO other tweaking. very similar symptoms too!!

i think you might wanna pick up a new PS. like maybe a nice Antec 430W or something along those lines (I got the old style 400W and it's awesome)

ANTEC PS's kick @ss. they are better than Enermax.

 

[jaybee]

Your OS might be confused by the cpu switch and disabling SSE. Not sure how you'd follow up on this tho... can you run your 1700+ at 2000+? Try to bump fsb or if you're adventurous unlock. If it runs, then try the 3d app. If you can get your 1700+ to 2000+, that'll tell you if the psu is the problem.

jaybee

 

[hominid skull]

Jaybee is on the right track.

What i'd do is to lower the FSB to 100MHz with the XP2000+ so that it runs at 1250MHz. Then if the computer runs the programs that it can't run at default speed then it's 99.9% safe to say it's the power supply. You already know the FBS runs ok at 133 with the 1700+

 

[Viperbob]

Hmmmmm ok I'll try it (running the 2000+ at a lower fsb) I might still order a new psu irreguardless I only bought this A-1 Electronics 400w psu because I was completely going over from intel to amd and my 235wpsu wasnt going to cut it

I hope it's just the OS or psu if this 2000+ turns out to be a semi functional bad cpu I'm gonna be bummed !I was willing to eat a re-stock fee just to exchange it.

I'll never shop with Krex again and if I ever deal with anyone besides newegg it'll be a retail box cpu!

I got a feeling buy the time I figue this out my 15day waranty will be over [sigh] and I might be out over a $100

 

[jaybee]

Originally posted by: hominid skull
Jaybee is on the right track.

What i'd do is to lower the FSB to 100MHz with the XP2000+ so that it runs at 1250MHz. Then if the computer runs the programs that it can't run at default speed then it's 99.9% safe to say it's the power supply. You already know the FBS runs ok at 133 with the 1700+

Ah, smart! What was I thinking? Good tip

jaybee