ATi 2900XT Finaly Arrives

[jzodda]

OP why have you listed the GTX as the comparison price point? Every review has stated flat out that its meant to compete with the 640 meg GTS. Are you trying to mislead people on purpose?

Another fanboi thread without fact or substance

 

[ginfest]

Originally posted by: jzodda
OP why have you listed the GTX as the comparison price point? Every review has stated flat out that its meant to compete with the 640 meg GTS. Are you trying to mislead people on purpose?

Another fanboi thread without fact or substance

QFT-verified by his other posts in this thread Almost seems like Video in here

 

[Slugbait]

I, as well, was hoping for AMD to release a serious contender with a competitive price point. I have almost all of my hardware ready to assemble a new uber machine, and was waiting on AMD to force the 8800GTX price to drop.

Alas, I will not see a sub-$400 GTX anytime soon.

As a side note, this launch brings back fond memories of Rage.

 

[Lasthitlarry]

As others have stated, the 2900XT compares to the 8800 GTS, NOT the GTX.

This thread should be deleted, there are plenty over in the Video section.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Seem like the ati literature I read stated that it was a direct competitor to the gtx but the benchmarks say it's more like a gts. Amd dropped the ball bigtime on this one and I think that it will hit them in the wallet, like they need that right now. They need to get it on the smaller core so they can reduce heat and increase clock speeds. They knew what they were up against with nvidia and they fell short.

 

[Captante]

I already have an 8800GTX & if I had it to do over I'd buy it again.


Edit: The comparision here really should be between the 2900XT & the GTS ... personally if I had waited this long I'd wait just a little longer to see what ATI can do with driver updates, however if forced to choose right now I go with a GTS.

 

[RussianSensation]

Neither, 8800GTS 640mb for $320.

 

[Bill Brasky]

Originally posted by: RussianSensation
Neither, 8800GTS 640mb for $320.

:thumbsup:

 

[jkresh]

to those who have said they don't think drivers will make a big difference some reviewers actually showed 8.36 vs 8.37 (a .01 release change) having significant improvements (as much as 40% in certain games) so I suspect drivers will make a big difference in coming months. The card is late and slower then it should be but I would guess that within a few more driver revisions it will have a legitimate lead over the 8800gtx 640, and be somewhere around (but below in most cases) gtx numbers. Interesting question at this point is how any of these cards perform in directx 10.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Maybe, or the AA speed may not be fixable, and the ATI drivers might already include 6 months of optimizations.

Out the door it's in second place to the GTS, but maybe it will catch up. Paying $70 extra for it before it does is a bad idea though.

 

[cbuchach]

I could never spend $599 for a video card so I would go for the 2900XT.

 

[jkresh]

DaveSimmons, I don't think they had 6months of optimizations already (I suspect they lied when they said the hardware was ready 6months ago) as the differences between 8.36 (what cards were sent out with) and 8.37 (available a few days ago) appears to be pretty big so unless that is some kind of strange game where they released that just after sending cards to reviewers to make people think they could get more out of the card in the future ... That being said I would agree that the best price/performance guarantee right now is the 320gts (unless you run at high resolutions)

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: cbuchach
I could never spend $599 for a video card so I would go for the 2900XT.

The 8800GTS is below the 2900xt's price anyway and the performance is still at or usually above the 2900xt.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: jkresh
to those who have said they don't think drivers will make a big difference some reviewers actually showed 8.36 vs 8.37 (a .01 release change) having significant improvements (as much as 40% in certain games) so I suspect drivers will make a big difference in coming months. The card is late and slower then it should be but I would guess that within a few more driver revisions it will have a legitimate lead over the 8800gtx 640, and be somewhere around (but below in most cases) gtx numbers. Interesting question at this point is how any of these cards perform in directx 10.

got links to said reviews? I didn't see this anywhere

 

[AmdInside]

I am actually looking forward to the ATI Radeon 2600HD for a HTPC.

 

[Nathelion]

One could speculate that in a month or two, AMD might get their AA problems figured out, so the R600 might turn out to be competitive after all - but as of right now, the HD2900XT is definitely a flop

 

[Roguestar]

Well they're going to have to bring out some seriously magical drivers to get the performance boost some are implying is missing.

 

[TallBill]

If I was building right now, the 8800 GTX no doubt. Of course, I'm not building a computer untill probably january

 

[VirtualLarry]

Sigh. Disappointing. I had such high hopes for DAMMIT.

 

[jkresh]

vr zone review

I think there were other reviews which stated similar things about driver differences, this was the first I found.

 

[Googer]

Updated.

http://www.3dgameman.com/content/view/8349/103/

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: Oyeve
I really wish AMD didnt buy ATI. Both companies went to hell after that stupid purchase.

AMD hasn't had ATi for very long. It may take a few years before we start to see if either company has gained from the merger. 4-6 months is not long enough to fully develop new products.

 

[Synomenon]

Wasn't the HD2900XT supposedly in development before the merger / acquisition? Or did AMD want some changes made to the design ATI already had?

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: IsLNdbOi
Wasn't the HD2900XT supposedly in development before the merger / acquisition? Or did AMD want some changes made to the design ATI already had?

I think so.

 

[Sunner]

Originally posted by: IsLNdbOi
Wasn't the HD2900XT supposedly in development before the merger / acquisition? Or did AMD want some changes made to the design ATI already had?

I doubt they did.
A new generation design like the R600 takes time, I doubt anyone at AMD would be stupid enough to show up late in the game to charge in and change anything major.