ATi 4870 X2 (R700) thread

[taltamir]

maybe it is a combination of both. rarely is only one factor taken into consideration.

 

[Tempered81]

Originally posted by: Compddd

Originally posted by: chizow

Originally posted by: Compddd
I really hope this thing blows everyone and everything away, just so Chizow will hush up.

And if it doesn't, will you just crawl back under your bridge until ATI rises again? Nothing wrong with hoping I suppose, but based on 4870CF and GTX 280 SLI I don't think we'll see massive gains with the 4870X2 over a single 4870 or even 4850CF.

Why don't you take your own advice then and crawl back under your bridge until nVidia rises again sir?

man R700 is GPU KING... End of debate.

Nvidia has to play catch-up now.

 

[ronnn]

Originally posted by: nonameo
You know, I wonder if they are delaying so that they can have extra time to beef up crossfire some more.

I think they have likely raised expectations they can't meet. Or they are selling everything they can make.

 

[nib95]

Originally posted by: ronnn

Originally posted by: nonameo
You know, I wonder if they are delaying so that they can have extra time to beef up crossfire some more.

I think they have likely raised expectations they can't meet. Or they are selling everything they can make.

The latter. The 4800 series has been selling out all over. I doubt even AMD anticipated it would be as popular as it is. Plus, for Nvidia to immediately come out and say the 200 series has been selling below expectations and then to suddenly drop prices...

 

[bryanW1995]

Originally posted by: Compddd
I really hope this thing blows everyone and everything away, just so Chizow will hush up.

not possible.

 

[bryanW1995]

Originally posted by: AmberClad
Fud is confirming that it will be 2GB. Codename is "Spartan" (someone at ATI is apparently a fan of 300).

they're probably all referencing that same article. 1gb will be sufficient imho and will keep prices reasonable, esp using gddr5.

of course, they could use 2gb of high end gddr3...

 

[bryanW1995]

Originally posted by: chizow

Originally posted by: Compddd
I really hope this thing blows everyone and everything away, just so Chizow will hush up.

And if it doesn't, will you just crawl back under your bridge until ATI rises again? Nothing wrong with hoping I suppose, but based on 4870CF and GTX 280 SLI I don't think we'll see massive gains with the 4870X2 over a single 4870 or even 4850CF.

wow, you're my nomination for "nzone moderator praetor exemplar". how badly does nvidia have to get their ass kicked for you to shut up?

 

[taltamir]

Originally posted by: bryanW1995

Originally posted by: AmberClad
Fud is confirming that it will be 2GB. Codename is "Spartan" (someone at ATI is apparently a fan of 300).

they're probably all referencing that same article. 1gb will be sufficient imho and will keep prices reasonable, esp using gddr5.

of course, they could use 2gb of high end gddr3...

what is "high end GDDR3"?

 

[Cookie Monster]

0.8ns modules rated at 2400MHz.

 

[Janooo]

A couple of new pictures here and here.

 

[Hauk]

Originally posted by: Janooo
A couple of new pictures here and here.

Sweet! Very industrial looking..

 

[taltamir]

nm

 

[Sureshot324]

I thought ATI was going to have shared memory for the X2, so each GPU wouldn't need it's own separate memory. If they're making a 2gb card it looks like this isn't the case.

 

[taltamir]

yea... i wonder if the promise of solved microstutter was also a lie.

 

[CP5670]

I don't see how that can be solved as long as it operates on Crossfire. That problem is inherent to AFR.

 

[dadach]

Originally posted by: taltamir
yea... i wonder if the promise of solved microstutter was also a lie.

can someone of the moderators please do something about this troll?

 

[Janooo]

Originally posted by: CP5670
I don't see how that can be solved as long as it operates on Crossfire. That problem is inherent to AFR.

So what is the reason for the micro stutter? Honest question, I don't know myself.

 

[bryanW1995]

Originally posted by: dadach

Originally posted by: taltamir
yea... i wonder if the promise of solved microstutter was also a lie.

can someone of the moderators please do something about this troll?

what are you talking about? bfg talks about microstutter as much as anybody else here who isn't a fanboy of either camp, and with good reason. now, r700 will probably be ENOUGH faster than gtx 280 that microstutter won't be much of a factor, but it is legitimate imho to bring it up right now, especially when another rumor has recently been disproven.

btw, check out his gaming rig. he's obviously not an nvidia shill if he's using a 4850.

 

[AmberClad]

Originally posted by: dadach

Originally posted by: taltamir
yea... i wonder if the promise of solved microstutter was also a lie.

can someone of the moderators please do something about this troll?

Wtf? A noob calling a long-time member a troll? I've seen Talt be just as critical of NV, so take your agenda elsewhere.

 

[Hauk]

Originally posted by: Janooo

Originally posted by: CP5670
I don't see how that can be solved as long as it operates on Crossfire. That problem is inherent to AFR.

So what is the reason for the micro stutter? Honest question, I don't know myself.

Microstuttering FAQ

"Do all Multi GPU rigs experience microstuttering?
It looks like it, yes. The extent to which might be different on one system than on another, they might even be different every time you start your machine or run the game engine.

If I notice microstuttering, can I minimize/eliminate it?
Yes. By running the game at a setting where your graphics cards are able to output more than the monitors refresh rate (that is, the maximum FPS the monitors are capible of; the pixels on your screen can only change so fast) microstuttering is eliminated completely. Most monitors have a refresh rate of 60 or 70Hz, meaning you would need 70 or 80 FPS to eliminate microstuttering.."

 

[dadach]

Originally posted by: AmberClad

Originally posted by: dadach

Originally posted by: taltamir
yea... i wonder if the promise of solved microstutter was also a lie.

can someone of the moderators please do something about this troll?

Wtf? A noob calling a long-time member a troll? I've seen Talt be just as critical of NV, so take your agenda elsewhere.

riiight...so ppl with a lot of posts cannot be biased?

read his sentence again...its an obvious troll post to discredit the amd/ati, calling them liars before the card is even out

 

[Hauk]

Originally posted by: AmberClad

Originally posted by: dadach

Originally posted by: taltamir
yea... i wonder if the promise of solved microstutter was also a lie.

can someone of the moderators please do something about this troll?

Wtf? A noob calling a long-time member a troll? I've seen Talt be just as critical of NV, so take your agenda elsewhere.

:thumbsup:

 

[Hauk]

Originally posted by: SteelSix

Originally posted by: AmberClad

Originally posted by: dadach

Originally posted by: taltamir
yea... i wonder if the promise of solved microstutter was also a lie.

can someone of the moderators please do something about this troll?

Wtf? A noob calling a long-time member a troll? I've seen Talt be just as critical of NV, so take your agenda elsewhere.

:thumbsup: Let's not get wound up, it's so unimportant. Talt is okay. He's a fair weather fan..

 

[dasracht]

Originally posted by: Janooo
A couple of new pictures here and here.

I'm impressed. ATI cards have looked really low-quality to me, cheesy plastic looking (if that makes sense). This card looks great.

 

[Janooo]

Originally posted by: SteelSix

Originally posted by: Janooo

Originally posted by: CP5670
I don't see how that can be solved as long as it operates on Crossfire. That problem is inherent to AFR.

So what is the reason for the micro stutter? Honest question, I don't know myself.

Microstuttering FAQ

"Do all Multi GPU rigs experience microstuttering?
It looks like it, yes. The extent to which might be different on one system than on another, they might even be different every time you start your machine or run the game engine.

If I notice microstuttering, can I minimize/eliminate it?
Yes. By running the game at a setting where your graphics cards are able to output more than the monitors refresh rate (that is, the maximum FPS the monitors are capible of; the pixels on your screen can only change so fast) microstuttering is eliminated completely. Most monitors have a refresh rate of 60 or 70Hz, meaning you would need 70 or 80 FPS to eliminate microstuttering.."

Thank you.
What's the relationship between min fps and micro stutter?