ATI 4890 vs nV GTX 275 reviews

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chizow

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Originally posted by: Special K
Well if they never adjust the MSRP, then I guess it only makes sense to use the step-up program if the step-up card you want wasn't available at the time you bought the original card. That's definitely not the case in my current situation.

In this case, I might as well just get the GTX 260 SC now, since it's the better deal.

It looks like the price of the cards on their own web store as the guide for the step-up program. In that case, take a look at this page:

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Here, they have the GTX 275 listed with an MSRP of $299, even though everything else I have read says the target price for GTX 275's is $249. I don't see how it could possibly be a good deal to use the step-up program if their prices are ~$50 higher than what I could get the card for on Newegg. Also factor in shipping, and the step-up program hardly seems like a good deal, unless the new card simply wasn't available at the time you made your purchase.
Yeah, that's exactly what they use for step-up basis. Another thing is they only offer the stock clocked variant typically, so that's another thing to consider for people who prefer factory overclocked models. The GTX 275 they offer should be $250 though, you might've been looking at the 1792MB RAM variant.

It has its flaws and shortcomings, but there's been some cases where its been really good value for some people, although it typically only comes into play if you got fleeced the first time around (9800GX2 comes to mind). A few other recent examples were people able to step-up from 65nm to 55nm parts for free around January and GTX 260 to 275 for almost free.

It's unfortunate that X58 is the only platform for core i7 right now, but my current rig is 4.5 years old and I can't game on it anymore, so I don't think I want to wait until the end of this year for i5 and X55. I tend to not be a frequent upgrader, as you can tell from the age of my current rig, so I figured it would be best to get the i7 now since it would probably last longer than a C2D or C2Q.
i5 and P55 I believe are expected sometime late Q2, maybe early Q3 in time for back to school. Perhaps July if they try and hit the college kids. I know they had some boards at CeBit but Intel has pushed back the launch a few times due to high inventory of LGA775 and low global demand.

I was personally going to wait for i5 as well, as I'm not that interested in SLI/CF, but the price gap has come down significantly now to the point the only real difference in price is the motherboard. If you don't care about SLI, there's quite a few boards that are $170-180 and some can be flashed to SLI support. Be careful though, some of these lower end boards only have 4 dimm slots. There's still some premium on DDR3, but its about $10-15GB which isn't far off what DDR2 was not too long ago. Both LGA1176 and LGA1366 are said to be supported by Intel for at least this Tick and Tock (32nm Westmere)

If I wait 1-2 years to upgrade my video card, don't you think there will be a better single card solution by then that will be superior to 2 GTX 260 core 216 SC's in SLI?
Hard to say, SLI/CF solutions nowadays are so powerful they're already pushing the limits of the fastest CPUs, so they may continue to scale in performance as platforms and CPUs are upgraded when the new GPUs hit the market. A fast single-GPU would also be limited similarly, but should scale more efficiently of course.

The first DX11 parts are expected in Q4 this year with GT300 and RV8x0, and although I don't expect them to quite be faster than current SLI or CF solutions, they'll most likely be close without any of the hassle or headaches. Personally I wouldn't wait for that though if you're already gaming on an aging rig and have the itch to play modern games. I'd go ahead and upgrade, grab one of those GTX 260s for $170 (or see what a GTX 275 costs when you're ready to build), then upgrade again in December to a GT300 or RV8x0 if you think its worth it.
 

evolucion8

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Originally posted by: Special K
so I figured it would be best to get the i7 now since it would probably last longer than a C2D or C2Q.

The performance difference between the C2Q and the i7 in games is minimal at best, unless future games are heavily multithreaded, the performance advantage will not be seen, specially that the single thread performance of the i7 hasn't been improved at all and that there are some scenarios that the Hyper Threading impacts the performance a bit, not like in the old days with the Pentium 4 but still there.

You may want to save some money and get a Q9550 or Q9650 and overclock it to 4GHz and being able to outperform the Core i7 965 slighly in games and sacrifice some 15% in general application performance or 50% in 3D workstation rendering or 10% to 40% in Video encoding or invest in a Core i7 and have those performance gains and slighly higher performance in games specially when overclocked.
 

Tempered81

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c2q -> i7 is not a big jump on most gaming rigs, imo. Also two card crossfire does about the same on x48 as it does on x58.

However, SLI multicard setups on X58 platforms are a good deal faster than on any older s775 nvidia motherboards. The only way to get that kinda blazing SLI performance is to have an i7 and sli mobo.

Theres about a dozen games that are using 4 cores these days. I've never really seen any major gains going from 4ghz c2q to 4ghz i7, unless multicard sli.
 

lopri

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Originally posted by: jaredpace
However, SLI multicard setups on X58 platforms are a good deal faster than on any older s775 nvidia motherboards. The only way to get that kinda blazing SLI performance is to have an i7 and sli mobo.
Can you elaborate on this?
 
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