ATi 5850/5870 review thread

[BFG10K]

This thread has been started in anticipation of the 5870/5850 reviews.

Please keep all review discussion for the 5870/5850 in this thread.

Please link to reviews as you find them and I?ll keep the front page updated.

Video Mod BFG10K.


5850

AnandTech 5850 Review
http://techreport.com/articles.x/17652
http://www.hardocp.com/article...5850_video_card_review
http://hothardware.com/Article...850-Performance-Review
http://www.firingsquad.com/har...0_performance_preview/
http://www.computerbase.de/art...au_ati_radeon_hd_5850/
http://www.guru3d.com/article/...5850-review-crossfire/ (crossfire)


5870

AnandTech
http://www.tomshardware.com/re...deon-hd-5870,2422.html
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articl...lay/radeon-hd5870.html
http://techreport.com/articles.x/17618
http://www.computerbase.de/art.../#abschnitt_einleitung
http://www.hardware.fr/article...md-radeon-hd-5870.html
http://www.hardocp.com/article...5870_video_card_review
http://www.techpowerup.com/rev.../Radeon_HD_5870/1.html (includes 5850).
http://www.techpowerup.com/rev...0_PCI-Express_Scaling/ (PCIe scaling).
http://www.firingsquad.com/har...0_performance_preview/
http://www.guru3d.com/article/...n-hd-5870-review-test/
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1080/1/
http://www.tweaktown.com/revie...aphics_card/index.html
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=783
http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=858
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com...-1gb-gddr5-review.html
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=20289
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=20354 (crossfire)
http://www.pcgameshardware.com...graphics-card/Reviews/
http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews.php?reviewid=842



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Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
It's sad to see the Nvidia fanboys in full force here. Unfortunately it seems that even the moderators cannot be free from their own inherent bias.

If you're coming in here for the 5 series launch as a regular of the social forums or are new to AnandTech, please be aware that personal attacks and call outs are not allowed in the technical forums -- see the stickied Moderator message at the top of this forum. If you're a Video regular, you shouldn't need to be reminded of these guidelines .

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[Narynan]

Waiting for the review from here, and also hardwarecanucks. I am buying one when it comes out, but you know.... benchies and everything get me all worked up.

Considering this seems to be the biggest card available on the market, i wonder if any of the reviews will have a list of cases it WONT fit it?

 

[BFG10K]

From what I?ve seen the 5870 is slightly shorter than a GTX285/GTX295/4870X2, which means it?ll fit into any case they can fit in.

http://img200.imageshack.us/i/dscf7918bigsj6.jpg/

 

[imported_coconutboy]

Zipzoomfly has the 5870 listed at the moment (but out of stock). $399.

Specs on the HIS part:

General
GPU Radeon HD 5870
Packaging Retail
Interface PCI Express x16 (2.0v)
Max Resolution 2560 x 1600
Operation Supported Windows Vista?
Specification
Core Clock 825 MHz
Stream Processor 800
OpenGL 3.1
RAMDAC 400 MHz
DirectX Version Direct X 11
Memory
Memory Size 1GB
Memory Type GDDR5
Memory Bandwidth 256-bit
Memory Clock 5200 Gbps
Connectors
D-SUB 1
DVI 2 x DVI-I (Dual Link)
TV-Out HDTV
HDMI Capable Yes
Feature
TV Tuner Yes
Cooling Device Heatsink/Fan
SLI Capable CrossFire Ready
CrossFire Capable CrossFireX
Vista Ready Yes


Also found this link showing the 5870 as losing to GTX 295 in 3dmark vantage. If any of this shouldn't be posted in this thread, my apologies please delete.


Here's the 5850 listed at $299

Specs:

General
GPU Radeon HD 5850
Packaging Retail
Interface PCI Express x16 (2.0v)
Max Resolution 2560 x 1600
Operation Supported Windows Vista?
Specification
Core Clock 625 MHz
Stream Processor 800
OpenGL 3.1
RAMDAC 400 MHz
DirectX Version Direct X 11
Memory
Memory Size 1GB
Memory Type GDDR5
Memory Bandwidth 256-bit
Memory Clock 4200 Gbps
Connectors
D-SUB 2
DVI 2 x DVI-I (Dual Link)
TV-Out HDTV
HDMI Capable Yes
Feature
Cooling Device Heatsink/Fan
SLI Capable CrossFire Ready
CrossFire Capable CrossFireX
Vista Ready Yes
HDCP Ready Yes

 

[BFG10K]

Hi coconutboy!

[waves]

 

[imported_Asianman]

I don't think the stream processors are right for those two cards, also, they should be able to support a higher resolution, especially from AMD's tech demos. And is phyX enabled on the NV cards for vantage?
Does anyone else think the cooling shroud looks really good on the 5870?

 

[imported_coconutboy]

Holy freakin' hell. I've been an Atech reader since '98 and a forum lurker for almost a decade. I can't believe I never noticed you're the same person as at Ars =o

*raises beer* Cheers!

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: Asianman
I don't think the stream processors are right for those two cards, also, they should be able to support a higher resolution, especially from AMD's tech demos. And is phyX enabled on the NV cards for vantage?
Does anyone else think the cooling shroud looks really good on the 5870?

2nded...on both points :beer:

 

[Tempered81]

No worries, ZZF just has the specs wrong

Official slide: http://img524.imageshack.us/im...99imagesstoriesnew.jpg

 

[imported_coconutboy]

Thanks for that slide and good call on the SPs Asianman.

Tempered- if ya don't mind, I'm gonna rehost that image and post it in in this thread here.If that's not cool with you just lemme know and I'll take it down.

 

[dguy6789]

The 5870 can support ultra high resolutions through the use of multiple monitors. Can it support that extreme resolution(7680x4800 for example) on a single monitor if such a monitor were to come out in the future?

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: dguy6789
The 5870 can support ultra high resolutions through the use of multiple monitors. Can it support that extreme resolution(7680x4800 for example) on a single monitor if such a monitor were to come out in the future?

Resolution support depends on what the output connector can handle.
e.g. DVI can only do 1920x1200 or so, dual link DVI can do things like 2560x1600, HDMI 1.0 can only do 1920x1200 or so, while 1.3 or 1.4 is required for 2560x1600.

The card can output whatever the connector can scale up to for a single panel.
Displayport can manage 2560x1600 @ 60Hz, but nothing higher, since it runs out of bandwidth.
HDMI 1.4 can do 4096x2160 maximum but I don't think that's 60Hz.
Dual link DVI can do 3840×2400 @ 33Hz

Nothing is going to be able to do 7680x4800 to a single display from a single output without a new connector type being developed.
Unless the monitor can take multiple inputs and use them to display on one screen with a high res, it's the connector that's going to be the limiting factor.

 

[toyota]

this thread will be 20 pages long before the first review even hits. lol

 

[imported_coconutboy]

Pffft. Be optimistic. 30 at least. The fanbois have yet to get started.

 

[Zstream]

What is this nonsense, no reviews yet?

 

[Jacen]

Info is under NDA until 6:01 CEST on 9/23:

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/3473/rbeo.jpg

 

[toyota]

Originally posted by: Jacen
Info is under NDA until 6:01 CST on 9/23:

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/3473/rbeo.jpg

6:01 AM tomorrow so there was really no point in starting this thread today at all. lol

also it says 6:01 CEST not CST. what the heck is CEST??

EDIT: CEST means "Central European Summer Time" http://www.timeanddate.com/lib...timezones/eu/cest.html

 

[SlowSpyder]

Originally posted by: Jacen
Info is under NDA until 6:01 CST on 9/23:

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/3473/rbeo.jpg

Bah, now I'll have to work today at work instead of read about new tech. :disgust:

 

[Jacen]

Originally posted by: toyota

Originally posted by: Jacen
Info is under NDA until 6:01 CST on 9/23:

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/3473/rbeo.jpg

6:01 AM tomorrow so there was really no point in starting this thread today at all. lol

also it says 6:01 CEST not CST. what the heck is CEST??

EDIT: CEST means "Central European Summer Time" http://www.timeanddate.com/lib...timezones/eu/cest.html

Correct, my bad. So that is 6 hours ahead of us here on EST, so that should be midnight tonight on Eastern time.

 

[BFG10K]

Originally posted by: Asianman

Does anyone else think the cooling shroud looks really good on the 5870?

Yes; my only concern is that the reduced vent size at the back will stifle the eviction of hot air. Hopefully this won?t be a big issue in practice.

Originally posted by: toyota

6:01 AM tomorrow so there was really no point in starting this thread today at all. Lol

I wanted to make sure I wasn?t beaten to the punch this time.

That and I?m sure some Chinese website will break the NDA, so I expect all of you to start scavenging right now to give me some good links for the OP. Fly my pretties, fly!

 

[videogames101]

The suspense is killing me. Need... broken... NDA....

 

[yacoub]

considering nothing people actually play with regularity (i.e. excluding Crysis which is purely used for benchmarking by 99% of the people who own it), there's really no need to be killed by the suspense. It's going to be a great series of cards but there's no need to rush out and get one for MSRP.

 

[lopri]

It does look like a hard launch at least.

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: yacoub
considering nothing people actually play with regularity (i.e. excluding Crysis which is purely used for benchmarking by 99% of the people who own it), there's really no need to be killed by the suspense. It's going to be a great series of cards but there's no need to rush out and get one for MSRP.

Monitors.

 

[imported_coconutboy]

Originally posted by: lopri
It does look like a hard launch at least.

Does that mean buying one at launch = epeen?

Oh that was bad. Chuck Norris bad.