Originally posted by: Azn
My practice? You accuse me of putting words in your mouth? Before that you called me a liar. If you are accusing me of something at least describe it. Without factual information I can't stop putting words in your mouth or what I lied to you about. All you've been doing is constantly changing the subject without answering a single thing. When it was your turn to answer you've changed your view however you deem fit.
I don't know why I even bother!
I am pretty sure that by now, everyone in AT forums can understand where you coming!
I 've finished my comment with:
"everyone can make his own conclusions!"
And you started your argument with:
"Everyone here aren't dumb."
WTF?
With whom you argue? (that the people here are not dumb!)
Did anyone wrote that the people are dumb?
No!
You were talking with me all this time, arguing constantly!
So You were trying to imply indirectly that I meant such a thing,
since you started arguing about it with me!
Do you forgot to whom you were replying?
Originally posted by: Azn
First you said the chip is going to be very big but now it isn't? That's all that I asked. I didn't ask what you thought about what die size and price has to be nor did I ask you why you thought RV870? won't hit 900mhz. You are just putting whole lot of information out there without saying much. That's what you call a strawman. You change the subject without answering the original question that I asked you. Either it's big or not. Not both whatever is convenient for you.
The sooner you understand that everything is relevant, the better for you!
Example:
HD4670 launched in Q3 2008 at 80$ with 144mm2 die size!
1)Is the HD4670's die size big or small?
It's small!
2)Is the HD4670's die size big or small, in order to incorporate this GPU in an IGP?
it's big! (Q3 2008)
Is it difficult to understand, that according to the question, the answer can be different?
In my prediction, I asked the question, and I gave the answer, your reply regarding my post came of cource after.
Did you ask the same question with me?
No!
You asked:
So, 300-315mm2 is so much bigger compared to RV770 256mm?
And you answered:
No, it is not
Before that, I asked in my post:
Is 300-315mm2 small enough in order for ATI to hit 900/950MHz in the standard configuration, without the use of decoupling transistors?
And I answered:
No it's big. (regarding this specific task)
The only way they can do it, is to use decoupling transistors!
(You don't even know that when the die size is increasing beyond a certain level the chances getting smaller in order to hit high frequensies like 900/950MHz for the standard configuration)
Did I say that, the certain level for ATI is 282mm2? (4890 die size)
No! (I said 350mm2)
Didn't I say that, It can be achieved with decoupling transistors?
Yes!
What did you did not understood and you brought the 4870-4890 example?
I don't even know why I bother!
Originally posted by: Azn
For instance when you said something about it's not about who is right or wrong? But then you say it is about who is right or wrong. It's quite silly even speaking to you because you don't mean a damn thing. It's okay when you are BS with your friends but not in general.
I already told you, that your comment offended me!
And this insult changed the data!
You said that this is the way you see it!
This, is your problem!
You offend people, and then you think that they should not respond!
Originally posted by: Azn
There's really no point even replying to rest of your post. Because it's silly and what's this about you being logical? No the logical thing would be to describe why you thought the chip would be big. Not spit out bunch of techno jargon without any proof.
The logical thing?
Without proof?
Like what I did, with your point regarding 8800GT / 5870 price correlation?
Can't you understand, that whoever read this part, knows exactly your level of logic?
Man, you and Logic got a divorce way back!