Actually, after reading a bunch of reviews, 6970s are hotter and louder and use more power. But they are better value.
if you get this card for 700, just buy 2x6970s for cooler temperature, less power and slightly faster performance. I think this card isn't something fitting for most people.
Hardware canucks isnt being fair to the 6990s.
Hes testing games in 1920x1200 + 2560x1600.
Anyways 15% slower, but cost ~40% less. (700$ 6990 vs 2x 580's for 500$ (1000$ total))
700$ x 1.40 (+40% ) = 980$
6990 is more than 40% cheaper.
at those low resolutions... yes the 580 is faster by the amounts you show above.
HOWEVER... what happends at 5760x1080 resolutions? (people that buy these game at 5700x res)
Im pretty sure at those resolutions the 6990 beats the 580 SLI in FPS on avg. in most games (because it has more memory).
People that buy a 6990, wont play games at 1920x1200 resolutions or lower, it makes no sense to get that powerfull a setup for it.
I just gave you two reviews that used 5000x surround resolution, the gtx 580 was 15% faster. The difference between 1.5gb and 2 gb memory in the games/settings tested were not memory bound.
Your falling in to the more memory is always better trap.
If the Antilles could have been closer to gtx 580 performance , then it would have been a bit better recieved.
In fact, in reviews it compares with gtx 570 SLI .
I just gave you two reviews that used 5000x surround resolution, the gtx 580 was 15% faster. The difference between 1.5gb and 2 gb memory in the games/settings tested were not memory bound.
Your falling in to the more memory is always better trap.
If the Antilles could have been closer to gtx 580 performance , then it would have been a bit better recieved.
In fact, in reviews it compares with gtx 570 SLI .
I have a suspicion that this is 5970 all over again. Kyle mentioned gameplay is much smoother on 580 SLI. Comes as no surprise as I noticed an immediate improvement from 5970 to just a single 480. Adding more was icing on the cake!
I have a suspicion that this is 5970 all over again. Kyle mentioned gameplay is much smoother on 580 SLI. Comes as no surprise as I noticed an immediate improvement from 5970 to just a single 480. Adding more was icing on the cake!
I have a suspicion that this is 5970 all over again. Kyle mentioned gameplay is much smoother on 580 SLI. Comes as no surprise as I noticed an immediate improvement from 5970 to just a single 480. Adding more was icing on the cake!
I honestly don't see where the WOW comes from, the card has a perfect performance/price ratio.
Whats the point of a card that does DOUBLE of what this card does with the type of quality games/graphics our current gaming industry is producing?
What's the point?
That's where WOW comes from. 580 plays every game at the highest settings....you are not gaining anything with having 2 or paying more. Still same graphics etc...fine you get few 10s FPS...which really dont matter after 50-60fps
Whats the point of a card that does DOUBLE of what this card does with the type of quality games/graphics our current gaming industry is producing?
What's the point?
That's where WOW comes from. 580 plays every game at the highest settings....you are not gaining anything with having 2 or paying more. Still same graphics etc...fine you get few 10s FPS...which really dont matter after 50-60fps
That makes absolutely no sense...
My thoughts too...
for 709$ for the 6990, and your besically getting 2x 6970s.
The cheaper 6970s go for around 320$ so double up for crossfire would be 640$ (~60$ cheaper than the 6990).
On the other hand... 2x 580 in SLI are not much faster, and the cheapest 580 card is about 499$ (500$ x 2 = 1000$ for a cheap 580 SLI setup).
6990 is about ~300$ cheaper than the 580 SLI setup, and gives almost same performance at 2560x resolutions. Probably beating the 580 SLI at 5000x resolutions.
^above is apperntly enough to sell the 6990.
I think 2x 6970 is better though, they stay cooler, less noisy, and cost abit less and still give 580 SLI a run for the money.
Whats the point of a card that does DOUBLE of what this card does with the type of quality games/graphics our current gaming industry is producing?
What's the point?
That's where WOW comes from. 580 plays every game at the highest settings....you are not gaining anything with having 2 or paying more. Still same graphics etc...fine you get few 10s FPS...which really dont matter after 50-60fps
That's why I bought the 6970, one card that can handle all that demanding console port graphics . I really hope that BF3 is not a console port, if it is I'm not buying anymore video cards after that!
At the resolution these people play at, 10fps make ALL the difference. Which is why they pay $700.
Whats the point of a card that does DOUBLE of what this card does with the type of quality games/graphics our current gaming industry is producing?
What's the point?
That's where WOW comes from. 580 plays every game at the highest settings....you are not gaining anything with having 2 or paying more. Still same graphics etc...fine you get few 10s FPS...which really dont matter after 50-60fps
I can understand if there was some kind of a new Graphical benchmark set past few years.....but there isn't, and most likely won't be in near future.
Heck my 460 handles everything I throw at it, I simply can't justify spending more on "more FPS".......
We are talking spending 100s on MINIMAL improvements and VERY little improvements in Graphics quality....as the graphics haven't really changed for # of years.
I'm actually surprised that Nvidia OR AMD are not REALLY struggling at this point.
If people can justify paying $100 for FPS....more power to the, (is what I say).
I think it's silly.
Why do you keep insisting your gtx 460 runs everything maxed out? I had a gtx 460 1gb I just sold and it didn't max everything. Can you not understand while you may be just fine humming along at 30fps most of us aren't. I use a 120hz monitor and I like seeing 80fps minimum when possible. If I could buy a gtx 680 and get 10-15 more fps than the gtx 580 I'm using I'd buy it. Some people game with 3 or more monitors or on a ultra high resolution screen. There is a market and purpose for the high end cards or they wouldn't sell them.
There is plenty of room for image quality improvement from the settings that reviewers use, and it's not a small improvement either it's a huge improvement. When I spend "hundreds", I demand to have the best possible quality discernible to my eyes. Some will be satisfied with simple MSAA with no transparency, shimmering textures, and tearing frames, while some notice the difference and demand TRSSAA, high quality texture filtering, and 60 perfect full frames.
Your 460 might handle everything you throw at it the way you expect it to, not necessarily the way I expect it to.
To each their own, the market caters to everyone.
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PS. I would rather put an extra payment towards my mortgage....
What if I do both? Best of both worlds. Or as Charlie Sheen would say I'm bi-winning. I win over here and win over there. Lol.