ATI A Cheater

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chsh1ca

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SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM MADE UP BY THE @$$HOLES: Trust the review sites, one or two might not be accurate but all the sites put together should give you an accurate picture on both 3D performance and IQ of the said cards. Who cares if there is any so called "cheating"? If they cheat to the point where IQ is more than noticably affected, then that will be noticed and commented on and chances are if the IQ is poor enough it will stop consumers from buying such a card.

The whole concept of an issue with driver cheating is completely absurd, today's cards are so damn good we've got to dig so deep to find something that could possibly smell slightly foul, it makes me laugh at how retarded this situation truly is, if only everyone would just take a step back and look at the bigger picture. Seriously, why would anyone care about cheating at all? Just so they can be bigger fanboys and have reason to flame and defend their rediculously priced purchase?
If this were accurate it would be a good point. It's sad to see a consumer who is so complacent about businesses actively deceiving their customers. Carpe Diem and all that, right? Is that what you say to someone who did the research and bought a card based on the reviewer's benchmark's performance indicators, only to find out they were jipped by some driver hacks?

Heck, $400 a pop a top end video card is 2x as expensive as an entire gaming console, and the expensive cards are the only reason there exists fanboyism, otherwise you'd expect people to be going around and pimping their NIC card and CDBurner makers (OOOOoooOO EDIMAX AND MITSUMI OWN JOO!!!) but that doesn't happen because such parts are inexpensive to the point they are practically dispossable.
You've never seen an Intel v 3Com argument, have you?
3Com guy: "But mine has wake on lan, and is $25 cheaper because it doesn't say intel!"
Intel guy: "Yeah? YEah? Well, you are teh suck!"
DLink guy: "Um, I paid $25 total for my card, and it does all that."
3Com guy, Intel guy, simultaneously: "Stay outta this you ignorant peon!"
:rolleyes;
Fanboyism/Brand loyalty exists at EVERY level of consumption. From cars to computer parts to diapers to batteries, people will be brand loyal. That's the entire idea behind marketing -- build brand loyalty, and maintain it in as many people as you can.

Get over yourselves, right now whatever decision you made/make can't be too wrong, both ATI and nVidia are doing fairly well as of late.
Couldn't agree more. The latest offerings from both companies are both very good. Unfortunately the FX59x0 and the FX5700 are saddled with the recent history of their predecessors, and that whole cheating debacle. They are very nice performing cards in their own right, and definitely are not anywhere close to the disappointment the FX5800 and the FX5600 were.
 

cmdrdredd

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Originally posted by: stardust
Originally posted by: jiffylube1024
Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Originally posted by: stardust
Please pay attention to the Van's lights rite above Max payne's head. Notice that the ATI drivers were less rendered? (those lights are very close to the center of the screen so it shouldn't be affected by ATI's flower like AA filtering.

ATI drivers

Nvidia drivers

Very interesting indeed.

actually...Max is standing in a very very clight different position and that could have something to do with it. You're really reaching here too. How do we even know what control panel settings were used?

I just pointed the same thing out (a slight difference in Max's point of view) in another thread that stardust pointed this "cheat" out in. The thread is here .

This isn't grasping at straws, this is grasping at wisps of traces of fibres left on the table after straws were sitting on there. If ATI has some sort of app detection for this then that would be the silliest, most wasteful, stupid, pointless app detection ever.



ATI manager: "Oh no. The MP2_detect_headlight cheat has been found. We are in some serious trouble".

ATI engineer "Bwahahaha. How long do you think it will take those fools to discover the MP2_detect_lamp cheat???"

Didn't really mean for ATI to be cheating, just for Nvidia to have recovered as i have told u and others in both threads


The point is not that Nvidia fixed stuff sure they did, but it's that they cheated very badly and ATI never did with their 9700/9800
 

jiffylube1024

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Originally posted by: AkumaX
sooo... ummm.. is ati cheating?

Doesn't look like it. Nothing totally out of whack like Nvidia clipping planes, etc. There's a bug/cheat that slightly lowers the resolution of textures in UT2k3 (ATI claims it's a bug, can't remember if Epic thinks it's a cheat or not), and there was that "bug" that wasn't a bug in ATI's optimization for 3dmark 2k3, but nothing really.

There has been no proof of ATI "getting caught with their pants down" or anything like the title would suggest.
 

jiffylube1024

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Originally posted by: Genx87
And the thread continues lol

As more evidence comes in regarding ATI "cheating," it's becoming less and less likely that this thread's title is correct.
 
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