ATI hires HRC PR Firm

[thilanliyan]

Originally posted by: nitromullet
Agreed. I think that is how many people felt. Rollo had a thing for posting a link to Aesop's Sour Grapes fable whenever someone said anything about how they woudln't ever buy an SLI rig, and he talked about the virues of working hard hard for your money to buy the things you wanted etc... I think after all the moral high road crap he spewed on this fourm to others, it was just a bit too much for people to take when they found out he was getting his hardware at "deep discounts". I for one ripped into him pretty hard once he did (finally) come clean, as I felt offended for having taken his side on a number of occasions. While my contempt for the idea of placing shills into forums remains, there was the hypocracy with Rollo in particualr that really made the AEG/NV thing more "personal" at the time than this current situation. I think the majority of the backlash on AT wasn't even directed towards NV, but towards Rollo himself. IMO, this the reason that you aren't seeing quite as much backlash this time around. Sure, you have a few fanATIcs, who post mostly blatant pro ATI stuff, but they aren't preaching morality to the rest of us at the same time, nor is there any evidence to indicate that any of the previously accused members are affiliated with ATI/HRC. The one person who has identified himself as an ATI beta tester has been here for a long time, identified himself as such, and generally doesn't get into the flamewars from what I can tell.

I think you hit it on the head there. I doubt the reaction would have been as severe had there not been anyone involved with AEG in these forums. I still remember him lambasting people for talking about hardware that they didn't own. All the while he himself didn't own an ATI card (until very late when he got an X1800XL I think it was) and posting all he could against them. He did that on several occasions. I also remember when he admitted to the AEG thing, that he didn't seem too bothered by the fact that some people had defended him against the accusations and were then hung out to dry.

 

[Gstanfor]

Originally posted by: apoppin

... i dropped out here over a month ago
[and frankly i don't miss MOST of you . . . nVidiot or fanATIc]
. . . i have simply lost interest in Video ...

If at first you don't succeed . . . quit!

Taken your own advice have you?

 

[Nelsieus]

Originally posted by: thilan29

I think you hit it on the head there. I doubt the reaction would have been as severe had there not been anyone involved with AEG in these forums.

You guys keep bringing that up, but it wasn't confimed that he worked for AEG until after news of AEG surfaced, until after everyone all of a suddent began to hate nVidia for their "immoral practices," until after people began protests on their products, until after their reputation took a slight beating, until after people decided they didn't want to give AEG the benefit of the doubt (like they're doing now with HRC)....so I'm not sure how you can say the AEG deal was much severe because an AEG employee was here, when that fact wasn't known until much later in the situation.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Gstanfor

Originally posted by: apoppin

... i dropped out here over a month ago
[and frankly i don't miss MOST of you . . . nVidiot or fanATIc]
. . . i have simply lost interest in Video ...

If at first you don't succeed . . . quit!

Taken your own advice have you?

Yes

several proverbs come to mind that apply to you guys . . .

. . . none of them are nice.
:Q

i'll just politely say i have better things to do . . .
[like play Oblivion]


carry on

 

[nitromullet]

Originally posted by: thilan29

Originally posted by: nitromullet
Agreed. I think that is how many people felt. Rollo had a thing for posting a link to Aesop's Sour Grapes fable whenever someone said anything about how they woudln't ever buy an SLI rig, and he talked about the virues of working hard hard for your money to buy the things you wanted etc... I think after all the moral high road crap he spewed on this fourm to others, it was just a bit too much for people to take when they found out he was getting his hardware at "deep discounts". I for one ripped into him pretty hard once he did (finally) come clean, as I felt offended for having taken his side on a number of occasions. While my contempt for the idea of placing shills into forums remains, there was the hypocracy with Rollo in particualr that really made the AEG/NV thing more "personal" at the time than this current situation. I think the majority of the backlash on AT wasn't even directed towards NV, but towards Rollo himself. IMO, this the reason that you aren't seeing quite as much backlash this time around. Sure, you have a few fanATIcs, who post mostly blatant pro ATI stuff, but they aren't preaching morality to the rest of us at the same time, nor is there any evidence to indicate that any of the previously accused members are affiliated with ATI/HRC. The one person who has identified himself as an ATI beta tester has been here for a long time, identified himself as such, and generally doesn't get into the flamewars from what I can tell.

I think you hit it on the head there. I doubt the reaction would have been as severe had there not been anyone involved with AEG in these forums. I still remember him lambasting people for talking about hardware that they didn't own. All the while he himself didn't own an ATI card (until very late when he got an X1800XL I think it was) and posting all he could against them. He did that on several occasions. I also remember when he admitted to the AEG thing, that he didn't seem too bothered by the fact that some people had defended him against the accusations and were then hung out to dry.

A bit in his defense (since he can't do it himself)

1) He generally did have an ATI card for every generation, although it was usually used or refurbed. He only seamed to have the expensive stuff that he got for free.
2) He did eventually apologize for lying to us.
3) I don't think he actually got banned for his AEG affiliation, but for something else. IIRC, he was still around for weeks afterwards. I could be wrong about this, but if they did actually ban him for AEG, they took their own sweet time in making that decision.

 

[thilanliyan]

Originally posted by: beggerking

Originally posted by: thilan29

Dear lord...do you actually read anyone's post or speed read and latch on to key words.

Here, I'll say it again:
YOU said something to the effect "Why should I believe 5150's hot deals??" more than Rollo's rig specs and all I'm saying is you can verify hot deals but not someone's rig specs...thats all I'm saying. Read the bolded part. I was just using it as an example.

YOU (Note I said YOU) are the one who said you are less inclined to believe 5150's hot deals to Rollos rig specs...all I said was you can verify one while you can't verify the other...that's IT...don't make arguments that are not there.

Jeez...it's nearly impossible to say ANYTHING without you missing the point completely.

Originally posted by: thilan29


I'm just trying to make a point to Beggerking...it may take a while though.

YOU MISSED MY POINT!

a rig signature is a rig signature, it doesn't need to be verified and does not indicate AEG aff. Yet you have asked Rollo to show receipts???

a rig signature turned into an advertising tool is something different. I would say that is a sign of possible HRC marketing.(joker)


But the point is here is not to witch hunt HRC or Joker, its to educate you fanATIcs to not conduct in such senseless AEG witchhunt in the future, and to apologize to people who you have witch hunted in the AEG thread.

I myself NEVER asked Rollo for a receipt. He was asked for a receipt when he bashed other people for supposedly not working hard enough to be able to afford very high end gear, NOT to prove he wasn't receiving free hardware. The AEG thing was nowhere at that time so it wasn't because of that that he was asked to show the receipt.

I never excused 5150's sig...in all honestly I didn't mind his sig so much but it would have been better if he also posted some hot deals on nv cards too. Someone could have posted hot deals about 7900s and I would not have cared either, and I wouldn't call them an Nvidia fanboy either. At the very least...there was nothing false in 5150's sig.

 

[Wreckage]

Originally posted by: Nelsieus

I think it speaks volumes that you can bash Rollo so prominently, yet can't even acknowledge other members on this board just as bad as him (Ackmed and Joker). The only difference between them is that Rollo trolled for nVidia, and Ackmed / Joker troll for ATI.

Have you not been keeping up in this thread. Three times has Ackmed taken words out of context from AEG's site to bash them and use it as FUD, when in reality, the words he chose to c / p right off of the site had nothing to do with viral marketing, much less marketing at all. And that was just this in this one thread; so he could rip at AEG and somehow hold HRC to a higher standard.

It's these kinds of things that make people question you. You seem to be an adament guy on Rollo who trolled for nVidia, yet for people in the other camp, it's as if you just choose to look the other way.

I agree. People who had such fury when it was one side are now all relaxed about it.

Rollo is gone, that has been dealt with. Bringing it up now is just pointless. Many people were crying foul long before Rollo came out of the closet.

If NVIDIA released a card with a naked girl on it, the ATI camp would be outraged at the lack of morals. Then if ATI had a naked girl on their card some months later, those same ATI people would be cheering how hot that chick is. :roll:

I am not going to label these people as fanboys anymore. I don't care if they do work for HRC\AEG\CIA. They are just hypocrites in my eyes and their defense here is thinner than a silicon wafer.

 

[thilanliyan]

Originally posted by: nitromullet
1) He generally did have an ATI card for every generation, although it was usually used or refurbed. He only seamed to have the expensive stuff that he got for free.
2) He did eventually apologize for lying to us.
3) I don't think he actually got banned for his AEG affiliation, but for something else. IIRC, he was still around for weeks afterwards. I could be wrong about this, but if they did actually ban him for AEG, they took their own sweet time in making that decision.

He got the X1800XL just a bit before he got banned though right.
Yeah I think he got banned for something else...the AEG thing was what started the downward spiral though.

Wreckage is right though...no point in discussing him anymore. I really do hope that if there is someone working as a shill, they're banned. There's no place for that kind of thing in these forums (at least in my opinion).

And I know some of you will say "welcome to the real world" or "every company does it so it's okay" but we're bombarded with advertising all the time but we KNOW that it's advertising. When someone posts in these forums, there's unfortunately no way of knowing if what they are posting is their own objective opinion or whether some company influenced their opinions...that's the bad part. Again, I sincerely hope that anyone affiliated with this gets banned...they should put that in the Anandtech terms...to not be part of a viral marketing campaign...although enforcing it would be difficult.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Wreckage

I am not going to label these people as fanboys anymore. I don't care if they do work for HRC\AEG\CIA. They are just hypocrites in my eyes and there defense here is thinner than a silicon wafer.

that's how everyone else looks at you

[i couldn't resist]

apoppin out

peace and aloha
work looks really "good" right now]
:Q

 

[CaiNaM]

Originally posted by: thilan29
Missed my post about that by a page mate.

ahh.. worked all night and just started reading this

still, the "bad publicity" is almost non-existant. while it may seem like a huge deal on a few forums, in the grand scheme of things it's inconsequential.

the other thing is, the whole aeg thing is not what many people think. the purpose isn't to make "pro nvidia" stuff up to post; they really do want you to give honest opinions. that some people may take this too far is not really the purpose of the "focus group" (which is exactly how they presented it).

there are many, many people involved in this that those up in arms have no clue were involved.

 

[nitromullet]

Originally posted by: Nelsieus

Originally posted by: thilan29

I think you hit it on the head there. I doubt the reaction would have been as severe had there not been anyone involved with AEG in these forums.

You guys keep bringing that up, but it wasn't confimed that he worked for AEG until after news of AEG surfaced, until after everyone all of a suddent began to hate nVidia for their "immoral practices," until after people began protests on their products, until after their reputation took a slight beating, until after people decided they didn't want to give AEG the benefit of the doubt (like they're doing now with HRC)....so I'm not sure how you can say the AEG deal was much severe because an AEG employee was here, when that fact wasn't known until much later in the situation.

The point is that AT video fourms reacted more severly to AEG than any other forum on the net becasue of Rollo. There were a number of other well known members on other fourms (ChrisRay on nvnews comes to mind), but becasue of the way they handled the situation the backlash was not as great (nvnews being a bit more NV friendly probably didn't hurt either). I don't really think that most people that are against viral marketing are any less against it now than they were then.

 

[beggerking]

Originally posted by: thilan29

Originally posted by: beggerking

Originally posted by: thilan29

Dear lord...do you actually read anyone's post or speed read and latch on to key words.

Here, I'll say it again:
YOU said something to the effect "Why should I believe 5150's hot deals??" more than Rollo's rig specs and all I'm saying is you can verify hot deals but not someone's rig specs...thats all I'm saying. Read the bolded part. I was just using it as an example.

YOU (Note I said YOU) are the one who said you are less inclined to believe 5150's hot deals to Rollos rig specs...all I said was you can verify one while you can't verify the other...that's IT...don't make arguments that are not there.

Jeez...it's nearly impossible to say ANYTHING without you missing the point completely.

Originally posted by: thilan29


I'm just trying to make a point to Beggerking...it may take a while though.

YOU MISSED MY POINT!

a rig signature is a rig signature, it doesn't need to be verified and does not indicate AEG aff. Yet you have asked Rollo to show receipts???

a rig signature turned into an advertising tool is something different. I would say that is a sign of possible HRC marketing.(joker)


But the point is here is not to witch hunt HRC or Joker, its to educate you fanATIcs to not conduct in such senseless AEG witchhunt in the future, and to apologize to people who you have witch hunted in the AEG thread.

I myself NEVER asked Rollo for a receipt. He was asked for a receipt when he bashed other people for supposedly not working hard enough to be able to afford very high end gear, NOT to prove he wasn't receiving free hardware. The AEG thing was nowhere at that time so it wasn't because of that that he was asked to show the receipt.

I never excused 5150's sig...in all honestly I didn't mind his sig so much but it would have been better if he also posted some hot deals on nv cards too. Someone could have posted hot deals about 7900s and I would not have cared either, and I wouldn't call them an Nvidia fanboy either. At the very least...there was nothing false in 5150's sig.

in your previous post, you said "because he wasn't able to show receipts, we suspected him of being aff with NVidia marketing"

don't see you suspect Joker marketing aTI in his signature, which is much more appearant indicater of brand affliation.

 

[Munky]

Originally posted by: beggerking

Originally posted by: munky

Originally posted by: beggerking

Originally posted by: munky

Originally posted by: beggerking

Originally posted by: munky
Rollo did openly admit to being an AEG shill, after denying it for a long time. I'm not gonna hunt for the thread, and it's probably deleted by now, but anyone who was here when it happend knows it. In light of that fact, there's no need for me to comment on the rest of your post...

You didn't believe him when he denied, then why did you believe him when he admits? double standard..

1. Because his posting habits made him a suspect long before he admitted
2. Because he would be insane to admit being an AEG shill when he really wasn't

calling that a double standard is a stretch by far...

1. Joker is worse

List some examples of how Joker is worse

2. Does it really make a difference? He denied it and you guys don't believe him anywayz.

There's a big difference between denying your involvement when you're guilty and confessing to something which you're not guilty of. What possible motive could he have had to confess to being AEG if he really wasn't.

1. OMG, please, don't pretend you don't know.

That doesnt answer my question.

2. You asked him 1000 times, denied 999 times, admitted once, and he is guilty? really. What tangible evidence do you have? none! Maybe he is just tired of this board and fanATIcs who keep trying to ban/kick none-pro ATI users.

Doesnt matter if he denied it 1000000 times. Admission of guilt overrules all previous denial of guilt.

 

[beggerking]

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: Nelsieus

I think it speaks volumes that you can bash Rollo so prominently, yet can't even acknowledge other members on this board just as bad as him (Ackmed and Joker). The only difference between them is that Rollo trolled for nVidia, and Ackmed / Joker troll for ATI.

Have you not been keeping up in this thread. Three times has Ackmed taken words out of context from AEG's site to bash them and use it as FUD, when in reality, the words he chose to c / p right off of the site had nothing to do with viral marketing, much less marketing at all. And that was just this in this one thread; so he could rip at AEG and somehow hold HRC to a higher standard.

It's these kinds of things that make people question you. You seem to be an adament guy on Rollo who trolled for nVidia, yet for people in the other camp, it's as if you just choose to look the other way.

I agree. People who had such fury when it was one side are now all relaxed about it.

Rollo is gone, that has been dealt with. Bringing it up now is just pointless. Many people were crying foul long before Rollo came out of the closet.

If NVIDIA released a card with a naked girl on it, the ATI camp would be outraged at the lack of morals. Then if ATI had a naked girl on their card some months later, those same ATI people would be cheering how hot that chick is. :roll:

I am not going to label these people as fanboys anymore. I don't care if they do work for HRC\AEG\CIA. They are just hypocrites in my eyes and their defense here is thinner than a silicon wafer.

QFT

 

[Topweasel]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Topweasel


Apoppin you yourself Called me immoral because I was disgusted by Nvidia's actions. Where is your disgust. Where is that vile that you spewed before.

immoral? . . . i don't remember that . . . where?

in case you missed it
[again]

here's my disgust ---> :disgust:



what more do you want?
:roll:

EDIT: skimming this thread i see you guys noticed i am not here much anymore.

Well, i have 450 hours into Oblivion and am STILL loving it and i already have the Video "setup" i need [unless we see an x1900xtx in AGP, i won't upgrade for another year or so] . . . .so i don't need anything . . . and with Rollo gone, i am less "needed".

plus i am really really [really] tired of all the CRAP in video
:Q

It was thread that got Deleted just before the Currecnt locked one. I even reference it a few time in that thread where you start to go over the line, I asked you not to cross the line again, but you preceded to say you didn't care what I thought and would say what you want (although from that point on you didn't evencome close to saying that to me again). It was in that Second AEG thread that I lost all respect for you as a poster (not that you care) and consider you lower then Joker because you seemed smarter then someone who has to resort to insults. The fact that you resort to insulting people for supporting Viral marketing (I believed and told everyone I believed that it was anywhere near as sneaky as you thought) you insulted me not for supporting Nvidia or defending their tactics (in your eyes) but supporting the idea of Viral marketing in any way.

So I appologize if you don't think I should be hearing a little more then the lets hold of approach from you specially as the thread start and perhaps the most outspoken person about not just AEG, Rollo, or NVidia, but of Viral Marketing itself. You should be almost violently against ATIs actions not just for using it but admitting to it after denying it and announcing it well after the backlash from the Nvidia incident.

So you ask What I want since I know you you don't really have an issue with ATI doing this then all I want is an appology for every offensive thing you said to anybody (including me) in you attempt to discredit Nvidia and rollo because of your current (at that time) opinion of ATI.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: beggerking

don't see you suspect Joker marketing aTI in his signature, which is much more appearant indicater of brand affliation.

ok, i am gonna weigh in on this one more time [i'm adjusting my c-lenses . . . must be an allergy]

Joker is NOT Rollo.

i may be pro-ATi, but even i don't take his [fanATIc] posts seriously

OTOH, Rollo was hard to ignore - especially when he made it personal.

IF there was "no Rollo", the backlash against AEG/nVidia would have been MUCH [much] less.

imagine for a moment that Rollo was Pro-ATI and posted ANTI-nVidia FUD in the same manner - THIS news would then create a HUGE backlash aginst ATi .. . .

AGAIN, evidently [correct me if i am wrong] - ati just started this program [emulating nVidia who has been doing this a LONG time] . . . it takes 'time' to hate something.

[ ahhh . . . eyes feel much better . . . c-ya!]

edit: Topweasel , so you have no "proof"



i really don't recall the details of my posts re: you . . . it was a pretty heated discussion and i apologize for my part in offending you.

i dispise Viral Marketing. Some are more worse than others . . . i hate the "Stealth" programmes the most.

i just have NO INFO [yet] on HOW ati plans to implement it . . . when and if i find out, i can be more vocal in my protesting.

IF it is 100% transparant - ALL posters disclose their affiliations - theni am mostly OK with it

 

[beggerking]

Originally posted by: munky

Originally posted by: beggerking

Originally posted by: munky

Originally posted by: beggerking

Originally posted by: munky

Originally posted by: beggerking

Originally posted by: munky
Rollo did openly admit to being an AEG shill, after denying it for a long time. I'm not gonna hunt for the thread, and it's probably deleted by now, but anyone who was here when it happend knows it. In light of that fact, there's no need for me to comment on the rest of your post...

You didn't believe him when he denied, then why did you believe him when he admits? double standard..

1. Because his posting habits made him a suspect long before he admitted
2. Because he would be insane to admit being an AEG shill when he really wasn't

calling that a double standard is a stretch by far...

1. Joker is worse

List some examples of how Joker is worse

2. Does it really make a difference? He denied it and you guys don't believe him anywayz.

There's a big difference between denying your involvement when you're guilty and confessing to something which you're not guilty of. What possible motive could he have had to confess to being AEG if he really wasn't.

1. OMG, please, don't pretend you don't know.

That doesnt answer my question.

2. You asked him 1000 times, denied 999 times, admitted once, and he is guilty? really. What tangible evidence do you have? none! Maybe he is just tired of this board and fanATIcs who keep trying to ban/kick none-pro ATI users.

Doesnt matter if he denied it 1000000 times. Admission of guilt overrules all previous denial of guilt.

1. Joker is much worse, in my opinion. He advertises in his sig , post false articles with bad benchmarks, and bold the ones where ATI wins out. and witchhunted during the AEG outbreak.

2. not the way it works here in USA. you can prosecute only once. There is a reason why you can only do it once, it is to prevent the exact same thing you fanATIcs did to Rollo. kept asking him to confess until he actually confess.

 

[nitromullet]

Originally posted by: thilan29

Originally posted by: nitromullet
1) He generally did have an ATI card for every generation, although it was usually used or refurbed. He only seamed to have the expensive stuff that he got for free.
2) He did eventually apologize for lying to us.
3) I don't think he actually got banned for his AEG affiliation, but for something else. IIRC, he was still around for weeks afterwards. I could be wrong about this, but if they did actually ban him for AEG, they took their own sweet time in making that decision.

He got the X1800XL just a bit before he got banned though right.
Yeah I think he got banned for something else...the AEG thing was what started the downward spiral though.

He had an X850XTPE the year before as well, which he picked it up from someone here IIRC... He also had a 9700Pro the year before, which he traded for a 5800Ultra (also someone here IIRC)... The 5800Ultra trade actually pre-dates me on AT forums, but numerous references have been made to that transaction.

edit: a biography on him isn't really necessary, but I do think that he was the primary reason that you saw the huge back lash on the AT.

 

[thilanliyan]

Originally posted by: beggerking
in your previous post, you said "because he wasn't able to show receipts, we suspected him of being aff with NVidia marketing"

PLEASE...PLEASE quote me where I said that...I NEVER said that.

Where did you get that quote anyway?? You just made that up and put it in quotes...not the first time you've done that. Seriously Begger you amaze me sometimes.

AGAIN (read AGAIN) I never accused Rollo of being an AEG member BEFORE he admitted it (if you can, please find a post where I accused him BEFORE he admitted it)...I had no proof so how could I accuse him.

And again, an argument with you led nowhere.

To everyone else, sorry I said I'd stop talking about Rollo in my previous post. Last one I promise. No more replies to Beggerking I swear.

 

[Topweasel]

Originally posted by: skooma
WOW, leave BFG10K out of this. He's been equally critical of ATI and NV from what I've read. I don't remember him in the "witch hunt" thread but reading his day to day posts, I wouldn't think he's on ATI's payroll.

Again never said he was, but he was very critical of this during his war on against Rollo, I respect BFG, but its like saying the ends justify the means. Puting on a disguse by saying that you hate something to get someone banned whether he should have been or not is pretty low. I am just asking for a little redemtion, appologize for his part, which was smaller then most, in the AEG witch hunt or denounce ATI now.

 

[beggerking]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: beggerking

don't see you suspect Joker marketing aTI in his signature, which is much more appearant indicater of brand affliation.

ok, i am gonna weigh in on this one more time [i'm adjusting my c-lenses . . . must be an allergy]

Joker is NOT Rollo.

i may be pro-ATi, but even i don't take his [fanATIc] posts seriously

OTOH, Rollo was hard to ignore - especially when he made it personal.

IF there was "no Rollo", the backlash against AEG/nVidia would have been MUCH [much] less.

imagine for a moment that Rollo was Pro-ATI and posted ANTI-nVidia FUD in the same manner - THIS news would then create a HUGE backlash aginst ATi .. . .

AGAIN, evidently [correct me if i am wrong] - ati just started this program [emulating nVidia who has been doing this a LONG time] . . . it takes 'time' to hate something.

[ ahhh . . . eyes feel much better . . . c-ya!]

Joker is worse than Rollo that he always resorts to personal attacks.
ATI HRC beta testers ( Joker , exterron?)

btw, almost all corperations conduct this kind of marketing in one form or the other.

 

[Munky]

Originally posted by: Nelsieus

Originally posted by: munky

Or because the Nv trolls are seeking revenge on the Ati trolls.

Right, they're out to get you. :roll:

Are you calling me a troll?

I think it speaks volumes that you can bash Rollo so prominently, yet can't even acknowledge other members on this board just as bad as him (Ackmed and Joker). The only difference between them is that Rollo trolled for nVidia, and Ackmed / Joker troll for ATI.

Have you not been keeping up in this thread. Three times has Ackmed taken words out of context from AEG's site to bash them and use it as FUD, when in reality, the words he chose to c / p right off of the site had nothing to do with viral marketing, much less marketing at all. And that was just this in this one thread; so he could rip at AEG and somehow hold HRC to a higher standard.

It's these kinds of things that make people question you. You seem to be an adament guy on Rollo who trolled for nVidia, yet for people in the other camp, it's as if you just choose to look the other way.

There's a difference between a troll and a shill. Do you have evidence that suggests Ackmed or Joker are viral marketing agents? There's plenty of trolling on both sides, however that in no way describes everything that Rollo was guilty of.

I'm just accusing you, Ackmed, and Joker with "questionable" behavior on this board.

Such as...?

But hey, if you want to bring up possible assocations between you and being a viral marketing shill, that's up to you.

That's aleady been brought up by others.

*fixed quotes

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: beggerking

Joker is worse than Rollo that he always resorts to personal attacks.
ATI HRC beta testers ( Joker , exterron?)

btw, almost all corperations conduct this kind of marketing in one form or the other.

Worse to you.

i just don't take Joker's pro-ATi FUD seriously

otoh, Rollo singled me out for abuse.

LAST TIME . . . [i know] . . . i HATE the stealth viral marketing programmes. Transparancy makes it somewhat acceptable.

gotta go . . . bookmarked

 

[beggerking]

Originally posted by: thilan29

Originally posted by: beggerking
in your previous post, you said "because he wasn't able to show receipts, we suspected him of being aff with NVidia marketing"

PLEASE...PLEASE quote me where I said that...I NEVER said that.

Where did you get that quote anyway?? You just made that up and put it in quotes...not the first time you've done that. Seriously Begger you amaze me sometimes.

AGAIN (read AGAIN) I never accused Rollo of being an AEG member BEFORE he admitted it (if you can, please find a post where I accused him BEFORE he admitted it)...I had no proof so how could I accuse him.

And again, an argument with you led nowhere.

To everyone else, sorry I said I'd stop talking about Rollo in my previous post. Last one I promise. No more replies to Beggerking I swear.

here you go

Huh?? There is a very big difference between someone's rig specs and posting hot deals in their sigs. The hot deals can be verified just by going to the site. However, you can't verify anything about someone's rig specs. IIRC(and this is just an example, I'm not making a big deal out of it), Rollo bragged about buying some SLI set and was asked to post up a receipt of the sale. He couldn't do it though and obviously we know why...cause he didn't buy it.

so you suspected him base on him not showing the receipt.

Time to take your fifth?

 

[Topweasel]

Originally posted by: the Chase

Originally posted by: skooma
LOL, that was said many times during the AEG thread yet the thread went over 1,000 replies

Fact is, all the outrage and horror displayed by many members then has turned to apaathy now that ATI is on the hook. Thats why people like topweael, beggarking and to some degree myself are disgusted.

Fairly personal for someone who has been participating for just over a month. Which is OK as I followed the AEG threads with interest as they unfolded without participating in them.

You and Topweasel keep saying "ATI is on the hook". You make it sound like you have proof that HRC and/or ATI have people planted here, receiving free hardware, to blatantly advertise for ATI and discredit Nvidia products.

This is not the case. It could develop into that in which case I would gladly discredit the people/forum members involved. And I think 50%+ of the "Fanatics" that Topweasel has named would do the same.

I don't like the fact that ATI has hired this company as they include viral marketing in their stradegy. What form and to what degree they will take this viral marketing to nobody but HRC and ATI know right now.

ATI is not on the hook at all, I respect ATIs decision and hope them great success, I hope that they approach many people here with as many XTX and Crossifre boards as possible. I hope the same with AEG and Nvidia, I want people to recieve the super fast parts for free an enjoy them.

I will say this again, I think that their are many members on this forum, that treated not just Rollo (the only AEG memebr in the bunch) but several others, and in regards to apoppin, myself, for Supporting Nvidias actions, or in my case along with others supporting the practice of Viral Marketing. Its these People who should consider ATI "on the hook" or appologize for their treatment of others in this regard.