ATI & Nvidia - AMD & Intel

videoclone

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What two Companies do you use in your Computer System ?????


This is not who's better or worse this is just asking what choice u made.....

I think the more companies around the better it is for us i like them all i think they are all great and i hope they bring down price's even more then they already have been.
 

GoodRevrnd

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Dec 27, 2001
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u = teh asshat

1. It's a DX9 problem, that ATI *might* be able to workaround.
2. Mention upper end ATI hardware because that's what's actually DX9 compliant and I'm sure Valve would love if everyone had DX9 hardware.
 

bunnyfubbles

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Originally posted by: videoclone
More of the same we have been seeing for a while.....

Looks like Someone at Valve is getting paid off to spread bullshit around about Nvidia ...but seriously guys when Game developers make a game they are making it using a Geforce card and a Radeon card just like john Carmack did with DOOM3 .... they are using the fastest gaming hardware around to make run, and test there games on...... if something doesn?t work they change the code and fix bug's thats what there job is........

its what they get paid to do make the game work on the hardware that people use so those people can buy this game and play it bug free ....

and why would they mention all the top of the line ATI cards why wouldn?t they just say all ATI cards are ok and nvidia cards are worthless for this game ?

That seams like what there are pointing out the fact the ATI cards are what you should by !! .. its a joke and its just another thing to put ontop of the Cheating Debacle and so on... Cant everyone just get along???

i'm waiting for the people at I.D to come out with a written letter stating that all ATI cards cant do FSAA in DOOM3 and drivers wont fix this and neither will us putting in the time to get rid of this bug and then nvidia will give I.D a big fat money bag.

Whatever helps you sleep at night
 

5150Joker

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Originally posted by: videoclone
More of the same we have been seeing for a while.....

Looks like Someone at Valve is getting paid off to spread bullshit around about Nvidia ...but seriously guys when Game developers make a game they are making it using a Geforce card and a Radeon card just like john Carmack did with DOOM3 .... they are using the fastest gaming hardware around to make run, and test there games on...... if something doesn?t work they change the code and fix bug's thats what there job is........

its what they get paid to do make the game work on the hardware that people use so those people can buy this game and play it bug free ....

and why would they mention all the top of the line ATI cards why wouldn?t they just say all ATI cards are ok and nvidia cards are worthless for this game ?

That seams like what there are pointing out the fact the ATI cards are what you should by !! .. its a joke and its just another thing to put ontop of the Cheating Debacle and so on... Cant everyone just get along???

i'm waiting for the people at I.D to come out with a written letter stating that all ATI cards cant do FSAA in DOOM3 and drivers wont fix this and neither will us putting in the time to get rid of this bug and then nvidia will give I.D a big fat money bag.


It's not just marketing, there is a real reason why nVidia cards cannot do FSAA in HL2. The next gen of cards should be fine but for now, all nVidia cards are screwed. Even ATi cards cannot do it at the moment but they have the hardware ability. Also, nV30/nV35 are weak in shaders and most likely will not run the game as well as the 9500-9800 pro series cards since HL2 is a heavily shader dependent game. ID would never come out and outright endorse a card because they've always known to be neutral in respect to IHV's for the most part.

 

Pete

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If e'er a thread deserved a lock....

This is just like nV and 3DM03. Instead of lauding ATi for having the superior hardware, people attack the developer for making their hardware of choice look bad. That's rational, baby!
 

hg321

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i knew before I even looked at your rig that you owned a 5900...LOL
 

EdipisReks

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Originally posted by: videoclone
More of the same we have been seeing for a while.....

Looks like Someone at Valve is getting paid off to spread bullshit around about Nvidia ...but seriously guys when Game developers make a game they are making it using a Geforce card and a Radeon card just like john Carmack did with DOOM3 .... they are using the fastest gaming hardware around to make run, and test there games on...... if something doesn?t work they change the code and fix bug's thats what there job is........

its what they get paid to do make the game work on the hardware that people use so those people can buy this game and play it bug free ....

and why would they mention all the top of the line ATI cards why wouldn?t they just say all ATI cards are ok and nvidia cards are worthless for this game ?

That seams like what there are pointing out the fact the ATI cards are what you should by !! .. its a joke and its just another thing to put ontop of the Cheating Debacle and so on... Cant everyone just get along???

i'm waiting for the people at I.D to come out with a written letter stating that all ATI cards cant do FSAA in DOOM3 and drivers wont fix this and neither will us putting in the time to get rid of this bug and then nvidia will give I.D a big fat money bag.


its "id" as in "id, ego, superego". not "I.D." and the rest of your post is bullshit.
 

AgaBoogaBoo

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Damn.... it would suck to be in your position if you just bought that 5900 at full price hoping it will play HL2 and Doom3.

Well, welcome to the real world. Here, we read our own posts and think how other would react to them. Here, we look at facts and not what they should do.

By your ability level, an Athlon XP 1700+ clocked lower than a Pentium 4 1.7Ghz should perform worse, right? Wrong.

Game developers always find a way to make games work on hardware that isn't designed to run it, right? Wrong.

It can go either way for the second question kind of. I'm sure they do try and get things like FSAA running nicely, but there is no guarantee. If they don't get it working, trust me, they will still have a great game to show. Not every gamer uses FSAA at all or even AF for that matter. I wouldn't go bashing how they say it will work on the Radeons with some work arounds but not at all on the Geforce FX. It may have to do with hardware. I bet that had it been the other way around, with ATI's cards not being able to run FSAA any way possibly, then you wouldn't have given a crap about it.

Just remember, the game is still expected to make a nice display and if FSAA is the single feature they depend on to make it look good, then it needs more work. Many games are still great without FSAA because the average user won't be able to run it on a Radeon 9200 and lower.
 

gururu

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your thread title is deceiving and actually quite offensive. Your opinion is fine, but would have done better in the HL2 thread.
 
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Tab

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Originally posted by: videoclone
More of the same we have been seeing for a while.....

Looks like Someone at Valve is getting paid off to spread bullshit around about Nvidia ...but seriously guys when Game developers make a game they are making it using a Geforce card and a Radeon card just like john Carmack did with DOOM3 .... they are using the fastest gaming hardware around to make run, and test there games on...... if something doesn?t work they change the code and fix bug's thats what there job is........

its what they get paid to do make the game work on the hardware that people use so those people can buy this game and play it bug free ....

and why would they mention all the top of the line ATI cards why wouldn?t they just say all ATI cards are ok and nvidia cards are worthless for this game ?

That seams like what there are pointing out the fact the ATI cards are what you should by !! .. its a joke and its just another thing to put ontop of the Cheating Debacle and so on... Cant everyone just get along???

i'm waiting for the people at I.D to come out with a written letter stating that all ATI cards cant do FSAA in DOOM3 and drivers wont fix this and neither will us putting in the time to get rid of this bug and then nvidia will give I.D a big fat money bag.

Yea, and John Carmack didnt notice this until now and neither did ATI! STOP POSTING
 

stardust

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May 17, 2003
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thats one hefty crowd u displeased by sticking up for nVidia. i give u some credit for ur blind courage, and also should give a good example to u hardcore ATi'ers too....some of u are just as bad...

but hey! this is a country fulla opinions and videoclone is one mad customer , don't worry tho! always know that somebody somewhere won't let this issue go inresolved. rest insured that ur buy was worth it :-D! careful tho! this flaim bait won't give u praise!
 
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