ATI Radeon 9800 Pro $199.99 CompUSA

gbrux

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Dang. I bougth this card at CompUSA for $189 and $40 MIR from ATI amost a year ago.

Current prices of the "Built by ATI" model have been at this level for at least a year. The NewEgg price is nearly $220. Its $249 at the ATI store.

You can get the "Powered by ATI" brands like Saphire for about $155 or so.

However, the ATI Radeon 9800 Pro must be one of the greatest AGP graphics cards of all time. In addition to being very popular and to being a great performer, it seems to hold its value like a Mercedes Benz.
 

puppyfriend

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I can't believe they are still selling for this much. I got mine for $150 last year from BB. Wouldn't a 6600GT AGP for about $30 less be a getter card?
 

Vic

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I just bought a mint condition in-the-original-box BBA 9700 Pro for $100 shipped off the FS/FT forums. This is not a hot deal.
 

gbrux

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Hey, check out the current prices.

I don't mean the prices of the "Powered by ATI" cards like Saphire, but the ATI built Radeon 9800 Pro. You will find that very few vendors offer this card at less than $200.

You're right. These cards have sold at prices substantially lower than at this CompUSA price. In fact, CompUSA has sold it for less.

However, at this time under current market demand for this particular card, the $199.99 is a hot deal.
 

gbrux

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Originally posted by: Vic
I just bought a mint condition in-the-original-box BBA 9700 Pro for $100 shipped off the FS/FT forums. This is not a hot deal.



A BBA 9700 Pro is not an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro. Let's be relevent.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: gbrux
Originally posted by: Vic
I just bought a mint condition in-the-original-box BBA 9700 Pro for $100 shipped off the FS/FT forums. This is not a hot deal.
A BBA 9700 Pro is not an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro. Let's be relevent.
BBA = "Built By ATi"

And are you saying that the minimal performance gain of the 9800 Pro is worth $100 more than a 9700 Pro?
 

tfinch2

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Originally posted by: gbrux
Hey, check out the current prices.

I don't mean the prices of the "Powered by ATI" cards like Saphire, but the ATI built Radeon 9800 Pro. You will find that very few vendors offer this card at less than $200.

You're right. These cards have sold at prices substantially lower than at this CompUSA price. In fact, CompUSA has sold it for less.

However, at this time under current market demand for this particular card, the $199.99 is a hot deal.

What are you smoking? Just because people want to overpay for a card that is at the end of it's life doesn't make it a hot deal.
 

gbrux

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Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: gbrux
Hey, check out the current prices.

I don't mean the prices of the "Powered by ATI" cards like Saphire, but the ATI built Radeon 9800 Pro. You will find that very few vendors offer this card at less than $200.

You're right. These cards have sold at prices substantially lower than at this CompUSA price. In fact, CompUSA has sold it for less.

However, at this time under current market demand for this particular card, the $199.99 is a hot deal.

What are you smoking? Just because people want to overpay for a card that is at the end of it's life doesn't make it a hot deal.


Well, now. You say, "People want to overpay for a card that is at the end of it's life." You've said it all.

Why are these people willing to pay a premium price?

Are these people stupid, or is the ATI Radeon 9800 Pro a card in high demand. In either case, the demand for this particular card is high, which explains the high price.

Do the market research yourself. $200 is a hot deal price.

I'm not stupid. I'm just reporting the market dynamics surrounding this graphics card.

Again, under present market conditions, $200 is a hot deal.

Perhaps you're too stupid to understand basic economics.
 

FleshLight

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Originally posted by: gbrux
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: gbrux
Hey, check out the current prices.

I don't mean the prices of the "Powered by ATI" cards like Saphire, but the ATI built Radeon 9800 Pro. You will find that very few vendors offer this card at less than $200.

You're right. These cards have sold at prices substantially lower than at this CompUSA price. In fact, CompUSA has sold it for less.

However, at this time under current market demand for this particular card, the $199.99 is a hot deal.

What are you smoking? Just because people want to overpay for a card that is at the end of it's life doesn't make it a hot deal.


Well, now. You say, "People want to overpay for a card that is at the end of it's life." You've said it all.

Why are these people willing to pay a premium price?

Are these people stupid, or is the ATI Radeon 9800 Pro a card in high demand. In either case, the demand for this particular card is high, which explains the high price.

Do the market research yourself. $200 is a hot deal price.

I'm not stupid. I'm just reporting the market dynamics surrounding this graphics card.

Again, under present market conditions, $200 is a hot deal.

Perhaps you're too stupid to understand basic economics.

It's a hot price for that particular card but the 6600GT outperforms it in just about everything and is $20 cheaper too, making this deal not so hot.
 

Hardcoreckn

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Originally posted by: gbrux
Hey, check out the current prices.

I don't mean the prices of the "Powered by ATI" cards like Saphire, but the ATI built Radeon 9800 Pro. You will find that very few vendors offer this card at less than $200.

You're right. These cards have sold at prices substantially lower than at this CompUSA price. In fact, CompUSA has sold it for less.

However, at this time under current market demand for this particular card, the $199.99 is a hot deal.

But if you can get a powered by ATi which has virtually the same level of performance for $50 less than the "current market demand" for the BBA then it would seem we're paying $50 for a name which isn't a hot deal.

And if we're gonna limit this to only the BBA card then look at the Newegg retail price and compare it to the CompUSA sale price. The sale price of CompUSA is about 10% off the Newegg price which in my book isn't a hot deal, maybe a warm deal.
 

gbrux

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Hardcore

You're absolutely right.

As I said, it's the demand for this particular card that has caused this pricing.

It is also true that purchasers of this card right now might not be making the best price performance purchase, considering that there are better performing graphics cards at lower prices, which makes the ATI Radeon 9800 Pro purchased that the market price an irrational purchasing decision.

But, "poor" purchasing decision aside, $200 for the ATI Radeon 9800 Pro is a hot deal under present marketing conditions based on the fact that you not find the ATI Radeon 9800 Pro anywhere for much less.

That's how the market works sometimes. But, in the long run, it will straighten itself out. If purchasers begin to do proper analyses of the various alternatives to this particular graphics card, the demand will decline and the supply will begin to increase, with a consequent decline in prices to something more "reasonable."
 

esquared

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Can't be that hot of a deal when I found it for 192 + 7 shipping no tax outside of NY from MainPCUSA.com here
7.17 ratings at resellerratings.com About average compared to other store ratings.

Also found it for 195 + 10 shipping and no tax outside of NJ, from micer.com for 205 here
They have a 9.17 rating on 3 reviews on resellerratings. Not many reviews, but better to be positive than negative.

Most people that buy from Compusa will pay tax, so add another 12-18 to the 200.
Compusa has a 2.45 rating at resellerratings.com

If you're not in NY or NJ than the above two are cheaper that Compussr because of no tax.

Actually, the people that buy at Newegg who don't pay tax are paying close to the same price as the Compusa price when you figure in the Compusa tax.
 

gbrux

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esquared

Now, you are providing evidence that $199 is about the best price in the market for the ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, unless you dispute that $5 or $6 dollars makes a "Hot Deal".

Based on your numbers:

MainPCUSA is exactly $199 plus tax (15% restocking fee if returned after 7 days; no refunds after 15 days).

Micer.com's price is total is $205 plus sales tax for some. Note that Micer says this price is a "Hot Sale". Also, 15% restocking fee applies to all returns for refund; no refunds will be given on returns after 30 days.

Are you saying these these two vendors are offering hot deals for the ATI Radeon 9800 Pro?

If you want to get into "all other factors affecting the purchase", neither of these other vendors can beat CompUSA's satisfaction guaranty policy with no restocking fee for returns within 21 days.
 

Acanthus

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CompUSA has below a 3 resellerrating for a reason.

Unless they start having 80% off going out of business sales, i wont buy from them, not even a mouse.
 

gbrux

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Originally posted by: BadKarma
If I was gonna spend $200, I would rather get a 6600GT.
Not only is it better, it's cheaper too.



Hey, I agree 100%.

But we aren't talking about any graphics card but the ATI Radeon 9800 Pro.

Again, if someone wants to buy the ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, the $199 price at CompUSA is a hot deal at the moment.

Anyone with a little knowledge will know that the Radeon 9800 Pro is a pretty damn good performer.

Incidentally, you could get an arguement whether a 6600GT is that much better card than a Radeon 9800 Pro.

Again, it might not be the best value when you consider price/performance of other comparably performing cards.
 

Acanthus

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Originally posted by: gbrux
Originally posted by: BadKarma
If I was gonna spend $200, I would rather get a 6600GT.
Not only is it better, it's cheaper too.



Hey, I agree 100%.

But we aren't talking about any graphics card but the ATI Radeon 9800 Pro.

Again, if someone wants to buy the ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, the $199 price at CompUSA is a hot deal at the moment.

Anyone with a little knowledge will know that the Radeon 9800 Pro is a pretty damn good performer.

Incidentally, you could get an arguement whether a 6600GT is that much better card than a Radeon 9800 Pro.

Again, it might not be the best value when you consider price/performance of other comparably performing cards.


A 6600GT is cheaper, faster, and has a better feature set.

The 9800 Pro is obsolete and not worth a $200 price tag when a $180 card is more attractive in every way.
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: gbrux
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: gbrux
Hey, check out the current prices.

I don't mean the prices of the "Powered by ATI" cards like Saphire, but the ATI built Radeon 9800 Pro. You will find that very few vendors offer this card at less than $200.

You're right. These cards have sold at prices substantially lower than at this CompUSA price. In fact, CompUSA has sold it for less.

However, at this time under current market demand for this particular card, the $199.99 is a hot deal.

What are you smoking? Just because people want to overpay for a card that is at the end of it's life doesn't make it a hot deal.


Well, now. You say, "People want to overpay for a card that is at the end of it's life." You've said it all.

Why are these people willing to pay a premium price?

Are these people stupid, or is the ATI Radeon 9800 Pro a card in high demand. In either case, the demand for this particular card is high, which explains the high price.

Do the market research yourself. $200 is a hot deal price.

I'm not stupid. I'm just reporting the market dynamics surrounding this graphics card.

Again, under present market conditions, $200 is a hot deal.

Perhaps you're too stupid to understand basic economics.
No, it's *not* a hot deal because the card isn't worth $200. If you can't understand that then you're the stupid one.
 
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Freezing, ice cold for a non-All-in-Wonder card, especially when you can get a 6600 GT shipped for $190. I've also seen local stores do weekly sales of the 9800 Pro for less than $200, too.
 
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