ATI Radeon Owners!!!!!!!!!!!

[RoboTECH]

Yza, nvidia cards are known for having lesser 2d quality than other cards out there. It may (or may not) be linked to Trinitron monitors and GeForce cards not being compatible for whatever reason.

 

[Hawk]

The AIW and the 64 MB w/ VIVO. I think I like the 64 MB better (doesn't crash on OpenGL for some reason...). If they had a 64 MB AIW I would be all over it. =)

 

[Mday]

aiw

 

[RobsTV]

Seems like a lot of users said money was the reason for going Radeon.
Looks like many of you were fooled then.

This past month I picked up 2 VisionTek (name branded) GeForce2 GTS cards. One for $144 and the other for $159, with shipping at $7.00 each, and no tax, at an Online retail vender. If you had been looking around, you would have seen many people selling VisionTek and Creative GeForce2 GTS cards for $170 delivered. Of course the only way they could do that is if they paid $150 or less for the cards, which again backs up the prices I paid, which was $151 delivered for one of the cards.

Also, many of you paid a lot more than $150 for your Radeon. Rebate is only good at a couple stores. Lay out $200 + $12 tax (6% here), add in a 2 hour round trip to store, + gas, and you have spent over $212. Now wait 3 months for $50 rebate check. I don't think price is a reason any longer. I sold 1 of my GF2 GTS cards on e8ay for $182.50 + shipping. This brought down the final price of my GF2 GTS to $120.50, and took the same effort as a rebate, without all the wait.

 

[rickn]

I paid $250 for my Radeon 64mb VIVO from Hawk, and just for the 2d clarity alone it was worth it.

 

[AMDfreak]

I got my retail Radeon 64 VIVO from Hawk too and I love it. Awesome DVD quality and 3D performance rocks, especially in 32 bit color. I may possibly add a Voodoo 200 TV card for the tuner.

 

[ChiefWiggum]

Well, I got a Radeon 32 DDR a few days ago. I was a little scared until I figured out how to install the drivers correctly. I didn't pay for my card, though.

I was on eB*y bidding on this card; and I offered the guy a trade, plus money if he wanted. So, I traded my 3D Prophet II MX for his Radeon 32 DDR straight up! But the Prophet did cost me $150.00, though.

You can get a a $30.00 coupon from http://www.couponcraze.com for http://www.buy.com -- if you spend more than $150.00. It costs $162.00 - $30.00 + $6.00 shipping = $140.00 or so. Sweet Deal.

My cards before the GF2MX were: Visiontek GeForce 256 SDR and Creative TNT2 32MB AGP.

The Radeon by far and away has better 2D. Man, Tribes, UT and Q3A -- oofah!
But, I will say I wasn't as impressed with Radeon's ARK demo. But, that's probably because of my AMD k6-2 500; more than anything.

Nice card. And believe me, I never though I'd ever want a card from ATI.

I'd like to get a TV Wonder USB and perhaps a DVD-ROM; to take advntage of this goodness!

Good Day.

 

[Hawk]

Amen! Radeon all the way! =)

RobsTV-many many people didn't buy the 32 MB at a store for the rebate...they probably paid 170 or less shipped, and for the exceptional 2d, I think an extra 10 bucks is worth it. Besides, it's going to be so much faster than the MX, trust me. =)

 

[kaleidosky]

ChiefWiggum (or anyone that can answer this): why did you get the ATI Radeon 32 DDR, and now want to add a TV tuner, when you could just get an AIW? I'm just wondering because I'm considering getting the AIW (Radeon)...and I'm seeing if there's a reason I shouldn't. (I have a V3 3000 and I want TV capability)

 

[dfloyd]

Well I just hit an auction and got a brand new retail in box 32MB DDR Radeon for $110 shipped. So maybe money is a good reason to go with one.

 

[Dean]

I got a radeon 64 meg ddr vivo, but i didn't snatch one cheap, as i was one of the first to get one i paid $500 Canadian for it

Only regret was the price though as it is one nice card

 

[Phuz]

I am so tired of seeing people complain about the Geforces image quality.

The 2d technology hasn't cahnged drastically over the last few years... so how can it be bad? The only way the GF2's quality is bad is if you runa Trintron tube based monitor. Everyone else seems to be fine on shadow masks... I can run very sharply @ 1280... no probs.

And PLEASE don't try and tell me I'm used to it because I use Matrox G400's at school all day.

 

[PeAK]

I do not personally own a Radeon but in response to
"how much has 2D changed in the last few years and the GF2
poor image quality?". Any graphics manufacturer can claim
whatever maximum clock frequency they want, but can they meet
it with good visual quality. VESA is attempting to standardized
the rating, but until that happens, that rating will be abused
by some of the marketing departments of chip vendors.

1280x1024@85=158 MHz pixel clock (6.36 ns period)
1600x1280@85=230 MHx pixel clock (4.34 ns period)
You can check this for itself by using the
VESA Mode Calculator
So in the case of the user who runs at 1280x1024, the signal
has 6.36-4.34=2ns more time to settle (31% more time).
The problems with
GF2 cards is that they do not support users who chose to
run at 1600x1200 resolution on larger monitors. Hope this
clears up some things. It seems to indicate that their edges
take more than 4.34 ns to settle. The other thing is that their
part are suppose to be rate at 300Mhz...the truth is out there/somewhere.

 

[GetInMyFatBelly]

A-I-W Radeon $199 misprice - no longer good, see hot deals forum) and VoodooTV 200 on 2nd computer (waiting for CardEXpert MX twin view 5.5 32MB from mixpc).

 

[kaleidosky]

GIMFB, which is better for you? AIW or VTV? Cause that's among my options.. of course it depends on your video card in your 2nd comp. But i'm either going AIW Radeon, VTV200 & V3 3000, or WinTV & V3 3000

 

[GetInMyFatBelly]

Just get the A-I-W Radeon, if has a lot more features. Also, for some reason the picture quality stinks on the VoodooTV 200 compared with the A-I-W. Another thing I have noticed is the the VoodooTV tuner gets extremely hot, I think this may be a future problem, and have let 3dfx know on their forum, another person stated they noticed this also. A mod told us to buy and put a cooler on it, I don't think so...

 

[Godsend1]

I wanted a Hercules GF2MX. I tried it in my P2B and it wouldnt work right. So I ordered the Radeon 32mb ddr last night from Outpost. I love that overnight shipping. It installed no sweat. So far so good. Of course I am extremely pleased with the performance due to the fact that I was running a Fire GL and V2 8mb.

 

[SendTrash]

All In Wonder Radeon

 

[Taz4158]

The new Radeon VE will soon be out and looks like a solid choice for people on a budget.

 

[Hawk]

Yeah, the VE looked good from the press release, but they didn't mention:

64 bit memory interface
NO T&L on chip

That kinda sucks.

 

[ChiefWiggum]

Kaleidosky--

Hi. I got a Radeon 32DDR because it was a straight up trade for my 3D Prophet II MX.

I did not want to spend my money (which was tied up in PayPal) for a AIW Radeon; when I had more important upgrades to worry about.

Now that they're done; I have some extra PayPal to blow!

Mike

 

[holyblessx]

All In Wonder...

 

[Bryan]

Radeon 64 MB VIVO

Thanks Hawk!

 

[Fugifighter]

32 DDR no tv... very pleased!

 

[ChrisL]

I just got the ALL-N WONDER Radeon. I paid $425CDN. So far I like it alot it was more than 2X as fast as my G400 in 3DMARK 2000. The image quality in 2D seems better to me (I know some people like the G400 better, but thats not my experience). It was a pain to get the TV feature working. Once I installed WEBTV (under 98 first edition) and the new special purpose driver -everything worked fine. The capture quality is superb. Assuming it is now stable I feel I will be very happy.
Capture quality has definately improved over the ALL n WONDER Pro (I have one of them as well as an XPERT@PLAY 8MB and the ATI ISA TV TUNER. IF you want a card that seems to be able to do it all, I think the AIW Radeon is it.

Chris