ATI RV530 & RV515 specs revealed

[g3pro]

Creig, just admit that nVidia is better than ATi hands down. You can't be ignorant your whole life. Start acknowledging the truth.

 

[Ackmed]

Originally posted by: g3pro
Creig, just admit that nVidia is better than ATi hands down. You can't be ignorant your whole life. Start acknowledging the truth.

Speaking of ignorance, a blanket statement like yours is full of it.

 

[Creig]

Originally posted by: g3pro
Creig, just admit that nVidia is better than ATi hands down. You can't be ignorant your whole life. Start acknowledging the truth.

And what exactly would you know about "the truth"?

Originally posted by: g3pro
I've done tests on the G70 and R520 in 3dmark2005 and 3dmark2003, and the nVidia card beats out the ATi card by some big margins.

 

[Malladine]

Originally posted by: Creig

Originally posted by: g3pro
Creig, just admit that nVidia is better than ATi hands down. You can't be ignorant your whole life. Start acknowledging the truth.

And what exactly would you know about "the truth"?

Originally posted by: g3pro
I've done tests on the G70 and R520 in 3dmark2005 and 3dmark2003, and the nVidia card beats out the ATi card by some big margins.

owned :beer:

 

[Ackmed]

Ouch, thats gotta hurt. If you're going to make up BS.. at least try and make it believable...

(assuming that quote is real)

 

[gsellis]

Originally posted by: Malladine

Originally posted by: Creig

Originally posted by: g3pro
Creig, just admit that nVidia is better than ATi hands down. You can't be ignorant your whole life. Start acknowledging the truth.

And what exactly would you know about "the truth"?

Originally posted by: g3pro
I've done tests on the G70 and R520 in 3dmark2005 and 3dmark2003, and the nVidia card beats out the ATi card by some big margins.

owned :beer:

QFT

SM3.0 free and still able to function in normal society...

Edit - Hans... Just joking with you

 

[blckgrffn]

Originally posted by: Ackmed
Ouch, thats gotta hurt. If you're going to make up BS.. at least try and make it believable...

(assuming that quote is real)

It is, Avalon has had it in his sig since he posted it

 

[Creig]

Originally posted by: Ackmed
Ouch, thats gotta hurt. If you're going to make up BS.. at least try and make it believable...

(assuming that quote is real)

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=31&threadid=1608578&enterthread=y

Posted 06/07/2005 11:27 AM, about halfway down. It's where Avalon got the quote for his sig. If I recall correctly, even the 7800GTX wasn't going to be out for another 2 weeks at that point.

 

[Ackmed]

Wow, just wow. I cant think of anything else to say. I didnt know who he was before this, but Ill remember that name for sure now, and not take anything he says seriously.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Creig
Instead of focusing on the positive that ATI has released dates/specs of some of their next generation lineup, you decided to turn the topic into yet another Nv vs ATI flamewar. Way to go.

Apparently many people in this thread don't agree about the "positive" nature of your post Creig:

Originally posted by: Topweasel
Whats worse is it looks like even the 520 series has to have a dedicated master card. Look they have the 520XT listed twice, a standard and a Crossfire version. Also with the 520 being dual slot they better pray to god that it is the fastest thing out there. I bought My 7800GTX not only because it was the fastest but also because I personally refuse to take up 2 slots (3 because I always leave the Slot under the Fan open) for a video card and honestly Taking up all of my expansion slots for SLI is slightly retarded.

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: Calagari
I am really confused by these new realeases. I can't understand why ATI would release a new 530 card with only 4 pipes. The 520's have 24 is that correct?

We don't know if it has 16 extreme, 24, 32, 64 or 128 pipes. I can tell you that it will have at least 16. I couldn't even tell you if it's powered by a hamster in a squirrel cage at this point.

Originally posted by: ZobarStyl

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
We don't know if it has 16 extreme, 24, 32, 64 or 128 pipes. I can tell you that it will have at least 16. I couldn't even tell you if it's powered by a hamster in a squirrel cage at this point.

Yeah, R520 has to be the biggest mystery in GPU's in a while. The problem is, it's still too late to the table...it has to seriously blow the GTX out of the water in perf to get as many sales now. ATi doesn't seem to realize that it doesn't matter how damn fast the setup is if it's 6-12 months late, first with still-MIA Crossfire and now with 90nm R5xx. It looks more and more like their nV30, what with the talk of 'extreme' pipelines, sounds kind of like nV's experiment in multitexturing.

Originally posted by: Genx87
Double slot cooling?

This launch is more and more like the NV30 by the day. ATI now has their own dustbuter to showoff

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Whatever. It is what it is. Obviously ATI is having headaches over their high end part.

Originally posted by: Malladine
They sound like garbage. What is that 128bit crap? :frown: 12 pipes? Why even release these cards?

I could go on, but you get the point. So why are you flaming me and not them, Creig? Hmmmmmm? If you thought we'd all buy a 12 pack of Molson and jump on a bear headed for Quebec because ATI lets AT post that they'll at least "launch" some products in a couple months......errrr, doubt it? :roll:

I think Orwell said it best:

Originally posted by: orwell84
I'm not all that imressed with this announcement. ATI is throwing us a bone, but it is a skinny, dry, splintery chicken bone.

MOST people in your thread showed disappointment at this news, but you singled me out because you haven't been able to forgive me since I told you your vendetta against me is a bad example to your kids. It's pretty sad.

Originally posted by: Creig
Not biased, my ass.

Link to your last pro nVidia post?
Not biased, my ass.

Link to the last post you were "positive" about one of my posts?
Not biased, my ass.

Copy of your may attempts to get me banned because you'd rather everyone puckered up and kissed the "ATI stone" with you?
Not biased, my ass.

The only one making a flame war here is you, and if you spit in my face by singling me out I'll throw it right back in yours.

The release dates referenced in your thread are a joke, and the world thinks so, not just me.

 

[klah]

Originally posted by: Intelia

You better get it back on your radar and clean the cobwebs from that thing you call a brain. You just don't get it we are CPU limited what part of that don't you understand.

What do you base that on?

The evidence I have seen shows the exact opposite to be true.

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/athlon_64_geforce_7800_gtx_scaling/

1600x1200 4xAA/16xAF

Far Cry
2.2GHz: 66 fps
2.8GHz: 66 fps

Half-Life 2
2.2GHz: 74
2.8GHz: 76

Splinter Cell CT
2.2GHz: 38.5
2.8GHz: 38.5

FEAR
2.2GHz: 28
2.8GHz: 29

Battlefield 2
2.2GHz: 62
2.8GHz: 62


When a 27% increase in cpu speed yields a 0-3% increase in performance you are certainly not cpu limited.

 

[Creig]

Originally posted by: Rollo
Copy of your may attempts to get me banned because you'd rather everyone puckered up and kissed the "ATI stone" with you?

That would be bad for competition. I think both companies make good products at various price points and hope it continues indefinitely. I may have asked for your removal in the past, but not lately. But as I'm sure you're well aware of, I'm not the only one who has had problems with you...

Originally posted by: AnandTech Moderator
You have not helped anyone with anything with your seemingly endless, pointless, useless flaming. I am beyond tired of it, and I am even more tired of receiving complaints from others you offend.

Please spend two weeks elsewhere to consider how you can improve your forums courtesy.

AnandTech Moderator

Originally posted by: Rollo
The only one making a flame war here is you, and if you spit in my face by singling me out I'll throw it right back in yours.[/b]

Spit in your face? Do you think you could be a little MORE dramatic? I posted specs and release date information and what was your first post?

Originally posted by: Rollo
Wow.

Crossfire one year later than SLI.

High end, unknown spec "launch" four months after 7800GTX- and we don't know if cards will even be available at launch.

Looks like the rumors of another tape-out may well be true.

People have been posting all year, "It's taped out! Wait a month or two!" and now at the end of the year, ATI finally tells us to wait two months. Will be interesting to see if they can deliver by November.

Sounds like you're attempting to stir things up as usual to me.

Originally posted by: Rollo
The release dates referenced in your thread are a joke, and the world thinks so, not just me.

I didn't realize you spoke for the entire world now. Must've missed that particular news bulletin. I was just quoting the information Kristopher Kubicki supplied. Whether or not you choose to believe it is up to you. But I think he's a bit more in the know about ATI release dates than some software peddler from Wisconsin.

 

[nRollo]

The "launch" dates are a "joke" because they've been delayed so many times, and Kubicki himself said "launch" and "available" are not the same here. (not because they're inaccurate)

BTW- going to actually buy one of these cards, or just keep being concerned for them? You never cease to amaze me, in here defending ATI like you'll inherit whatever is in their bank account and you don't even have any idea what their products are like these days.

BTW- no shame in "peddling software", but I suppose you're doing something much more noble like curing cancer. :roll:

 

[fstime]

Stop sh!itting this thread and get back on topic.

I'm dissapointed in the 128 bit bus, 16 or even 18 pipe cards would be more attractive for a low end market.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: BouZouki
Stop sh!itting this thread and get back on topic.

I'm dissapointed in the 128 bit bus, 16 or even 18 pipe cards would be more attractive for a low end market.

Just responding to your pal Creig Bouzouki, or should I just ignore him? Funny how that works- when you flame someone, sometimes they respond. Go figure. :roll:

 

[mwmorph]

128bit is dead to me. we have moved far as to make 256bit almost mandatory. 128bit is really the huge weak link.

 

[Preti9cboi]

Hmmm should i sell my x800xl for the new ATI core?

Nvida probably has something up their sleeve anyway.

 

[g3pro]

Originally posted by: Ackmed
Wow, just wow. I cant think of anything else to say. I didnt know who he was before this, but Ill remember that name for sure now, and not take anything he says seriously.

I don't find it surprising that you lack the intelligence to see my post was mocking the bulls*** you and Creig spout off every day you post to this forum.

Whoops. :roll:

 

[Creig]

Originally posted by: Rollo
The "launch" dates are a "joke" because they've been delayed so many times, and Kubicki himself said "launch" and "available" are not the same here. (not because they're inaccurate)

Well, we'll have to see then, won't we. If ATI does officially launch the card without having a supply on hand, shame on them. But nobody on the outside knows for 100% certainty until that time, do they?

From the praise Nvidia rightfully received from its own 7800GTX launch to the reports that ATIs low-mid end cards are being produced and stockpiled, I'd be more inclined to bet ATI will have cards on hand the day they say cards will be officially for sale.

Originally posted by: Rollo
BTW- going to actually buy one of these cards, or just keep being concerned for them? You never cease to amaze me, in here defending ATI like you'll inherit whatever is in their bank account and you don't even have any idea what their products are like these days.

And you don't pimp Nvidia like you own the company? Actually, I was going to wait and see what the next gen cards had to offer before I decided what upgrade path to take. But I ended up getting one of the ATI refurb X800XT PE cards for $229.

As I'm sure you know by now, I'm a "best bang for the buck" kinda guy instead of "must have the latest of everything". It'll go along nicely with my 2.5GHz Barton for now, then possibly get swapped over to an AMD X2 and one of those nice peforming ULI AGP/PCI-E M1695 boards once they become widely available and there are a couple models to choose from.

I could afford to " keep up with the Jones' " if I wanted to, but choose not to. I have other things I'd rather spend that money on. And besides, I get more pleasure from seeing how much gaming per dollar I can get for my investment.

Originally posted by: Rollo
BTW- no shame in "peddling software", but I suppose you're doing something much more noble like curing cancer. :roll:

Never said there was any shame in it. But who do you honestly think has a better insiders view to ATI/Nvidia timetables? You, or Kristopher?

 

[Intelia]

Originally posted by: klah

Originally posted by: Intelia

You better get it back on your radar and clean the cobwebs from that thing you call a brain. You just don't get it we are CPU limited what part of that don't you understand.

What do you base that on?

The evidence I have seen shows the exact opposite to be true.

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/athlon_64_geforce_7800_gtx_scaling/

1600x1200 4xAA/16xAF

Far Cry
2.2GHz: 66 fps
2.8GHz: 66 fps

Half-Life 2
2.2GHz: 74
2.8GHz: 76

Splinter Cell CT
2.2GHz: 38.5
2.8GHz: 38.5

FEAR
2.2GHz: 28
2.8GHz: 29

Battlefield 2
2.2GHz: 62
2.8GHz: 62


When a 27% increase in cpu speed yields a 0-3% increase in performance you are certainly not cpu limited.

First of all lets play at a Res. that Most 19" LCD play at 1280x1024 if your truely tring to help people make an informed decision on what to buy . Than use resolutions that the majority will use . Or do you expect everyone to run out and buy a $800+ LCD.

Here is a link to the best all round review I have seen which shows bottlenecks ever where . What kind of monitor do you use. I just bought my Samsung 19"LCD this year so I will have it awhile. If you are tring to influence the very rich fine. Thats not the case at these forms!

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/geforce7800-gt.html

It will be quit easy to go back in the post and show that On single card play at high res ATI owned nvidia and you same people said you had to play at res. that were practical .Until the 7800 came out. Than you changed your stories and than only. Even the reviewers did. To spend $1200 dollars on a sli set up that is obsolite now for 1 years use is retarded. Don't deny it . 4 weeks left will see the stories change fast.

As soon as the G80 and R600 are released sli and crossfire will be totally useless for these cards except for multi. monitors.

 

[Intelia]

Originally posted by: BouZouki
Stop sh!itting this thread and get back on topic.

I'm dissapointed in the 128 bit bus, 16 or even 18 pipe cards would be more attractive for a low end market.

I really doubt that its a 128 bit bus. I know that they were working on a new memory controller. But to keep cost down thats what may be on the R530.But memory running at 1400MGz its still going to be very fast. Two R530's on Crossfire should offer great value for the performance.

 

[Creig]

Originally posted by: BouZouki
Stop sh!itting this thread and get back on topic.

I'm dissapointed in the 128 bit bus, 16 or even 18 pipe cards would be more attractive for a low end market.

Remember, though, the absolutely FASTEST cards of the last generation were 16 pipes. Video card architecture doesn't go from "absolutely fastest" to "low end market" in six months. Low end market consumers aren't looking for any kind of performance numbers, they're looking for price. Personally, I don't see the low end market going any higher than 8 pipes (MAYBE 12 on an SE model) for quite awhile.

 

[dredd2929]

I don't really care if the ATI cards are faster. I still went with nVidia because they seem to have much better driver quality, both for newer and legacy games.

 

[Intelia]

Originally posted by: Creig

Originally posted by: BouZouki
Stop sh!itting this thread and get back on topic.

I'm dissapointed in the 128 bit bus, 16 or even 18 pipe cards would be more attractive for a low end market.

Remember, though, the absolutely FASTEST cards of the last generation were 16 pipes. Video card architecture doesn't go from "absolutely fastest" to "low end market" in six months. Low end market consumers aren't looking for any kind of performance numbers, they're looking for price. Personally, I don't see the low end market going any higher than 8 pipes (MAYBE 12 on an SE model) for quite awhile.

I agree but the low end market is becoming more savoy to whats going on inside a pc. I remember the first PC we bought for our daughter for college. It was a $3000. compaq. When she came home she gave it to us. Than I went to college and David was going to up grade the compaq. Well when he found out that we bought a piece of junk he blew up.My daughter and I both majored in computer science so .David had her help him learn what she learned and we started building Top of the line Gamers. So thats how we got to were we are at today.

The consumer is a lot more computer savoy today than they were 6 years ago. I see that trend continuing.

 

[ArchAngel777]

As I'm sure you know by now, I'm a "best bang for the buck" kinda guy instead of "must have the latest of everything". It'll go along nicely with my 2.5GHz Barton for now, then possibly get swapped over to an AMD X2 and one of those nice peforming ULI AGP/PCI-E M1695 boards once they become widely available and there are a couple models to choose from.

I could afford to " keep up with the Jones' " if I wanted to, but choose not to. I have other things I'd rather spend that money on. And besides, I get more pleasure from seeing how much gaming per dollar I can get for my investment.

Hmmm, a few things do not make sense in that post. If you were not trying to keep up with the jones, then why are you putting your money elsewhere? Keeping up with the jones is more than a computer upgraded... LMAO.

The best gaming for the money is called on-board video... It doesn't cost a dime and I bet you would get a big "high" out of it. Yeah, I dunno, I am not here to defend Rollo. In fact, I do not even know the guy. But I do think your post is pretty much BS.