Is it just me or does anyone else after reading Wreckage's posts remind you of someone called Rollo maybe?
LOL I have another one, PhysX!!! and 60%
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The NV marketers are doing harm to Nvidia by trolling on the forums. Fermi is going to be a great range of video cards like the 5000 Series have been for ATI and people who visit a forum don't need Fermi jammed down their throat.
I hope they sell more 58xx series, it gives me more used cards to choose from when Fermi ships and people sell them to have the latest and greatest chip.
Mabe I can pick up a 5850 for under 200$ in the spring.
TBH I don't think there's much marketing going on. The only person here with official links to NV who posts here behaves fine.
There's trolling that goes on from both sides from the cheerleaders (admittedly some people are a bit more hardcore about it).
I'm probably more interested in Fermi than the 5000 series but only because we don't know much about it yet.
Glad someone realizes the BS that goes on here
It's frustrating to read these forums and see the constant cheerleading that goes on. Ya, Wreckage is almost comical in his green-team pimpage, but there are at least half-a-dozen or more red team viral boys who constantly answer his posts.
Funny thing, though they will pimp ATI all day but they same few never post in any threads where someone asks for help with their new 5xxx card or drivers.
.....snipage...... Ya, Wreckage is almost comical in his green-team pimpage, but there are at least half-a-dozen or more red team viral boys who constantly answer his posts.....snipage.....
Anybody got a clue how many 8800 cards were sold in the similar timeframe after their release (similar situation but roles reversed, at that time NV had a great next gen and ATI was way behind)
Updated the first post to include additional information on prospective launch of Fermi: March, 2010
That's ~ 6-7 months behind ATI (although, granted ATI had poor availability for the first 4 months). As a point of reference, GTX 280 was released on June 16, 2008.
If NV continues to be behind 6 months of their normal schedule, eventually ATI will be able to release more than 1 generation between 1 generation of NV's card. Hopefully this won't happen for consumers' sake.
These DX11 sales are good in the long run to encourage developers to take advantage of the instructions, but DX11 means nothing right now.
Glad someone realizes the BS that goes on here
It's frustrating to read these forums and see the constant cheerleading that goes on. Ya, Wreckage is almost comical in his green-team pimpage, but there are at least half-a-dozen or more red team viral boys who constantly answer his posts.
Funny thing, though they will pimp ATI all day but they same few never post in any threads where someone asks for help with their new 5xxx card or drivers.
Dont worry, my feeling exactly!
Anybody got a clue how many 8800 cards were sold in the similar timeframe after their release (similar situation but roles reversed, at that time NV had a great next gen and ATI was way behind)
Glad someone realizes the BS that goes on here
It's frustrating to read these forums and see the constant cheerleading that goes on. Ya, Wreckage is almost comical in his green-team pimpage, but there are at least half-a-dozen or more red team viral boys who constantly answer his posts.
This is an accomplishment and has nothing to do with bias, you're a fanboy or an idiot if you can't see it. They released a new series with only mainstream and high-end performance parts, and despite one of the worst supply issues in recent history, still managed to ship two million units (which is ~15% of total shipments, IIRC). It'll be interesting to see what happens when they roll out budget parts.
I agree. The stagnation of the gaming market (performance-wise anyway) isn't helping the graphics market. I admit, if Fermi comes out and is an amazing part in all metrics (which, according to all floating hear-say, it won't be), I'd buy it for the "gee-whiz" factor and to play with a new toy. That said, I don't see that happening, and if AMD releases a better 5xxx as a refresh, I very well may get that to play with instead.I'm a hardware enthusiast and spend a fair amount of coin on upgrades. I'm also impartial as to gpu vendor, having used high end cards from nv and ati.
But I have no reason to buy a Fermi card now, 5870CF which is what I have, or 5970 which is it's match, has managed to play any game at max available pc gaming res with all settings turned up.
The one game I would see some sort of noticeable gains in, would be Crysis, where probably I could turn on 4Xaa rather than 2Xaa with all enthusiast settings and see maybe what, 10fps at best more, using two of these new nv cards. Which would likely set me back at least $1200 to $1400.
Just not worth it anymore. If you've already bought a 58XX / 59XX series, you won't upgrade to Fermi, unless you're a benchmarker. NV coming late to table at this point in GPU evolution is going to hurt them. Especially as most people do not game at 2560x1600, so even moreso.
Anyone who already has a 5XXX series will not have a reason to upgrade. The only ones buying will be NV loyalists or benchmarkers.
Would they have? How do you know? It seems like you have a fundamental lack of understanding of business operations/economics in order to not recognize the hurdles overcome to meet such a mark. It is an accomplishment to have such a successful launch and penetrate a market despite such unfavorable conditions.What did it actually accomplish? If AMD didn't have the 5xxx series, they would have sold just as many 4xxx DX10.1 parts.
Meaningless.
Because a much more limited, proprietary-focused market is a direct comparison to a much more open and competitive one, amirite? Some of you need to read what you wrote before you hit "post."In other news, ATi sold ~2.5Million console GPUs in the week before Christmas. It is shocking how badly their PC GPU division is doing in terms of volume honestly.