ATI Ships 2 Millionth DirectX 11th GPU; Update: Jan 11/2010, Fermi out March 2010

[Jaskalas]

I have a 4800 series card and dont see the point in upgrading right now. Maybe next year. Though I keep wavering. I am 99% positive this generation will be sat out. Too much money for not enough gain in my book. The games I play simply dont require that kind of horsepower.

I had to get a 5850 to replace my EVGA 8800 GTS 640. The instability was off the chart bringing down my PC multiple times daily. Now it has been two weeks and I'm still waiting for my first crash.

If my hand was not forced, I would have waited longer to see how this generation plays out, refreshes included.

 

[yh125d]

In other news, ATi sold ~2.5Million console GPUs in the week before Christmas. It is shocking how badly their PC GPU division is doing in terms of volume honestly.

I don't really think that's a fair comparison. That's more of a reflection on how many consoles sell vs discrete CPU graphics, not so much ATIs desktop GPU failures

 

[Wreckage]

I don't really think that's a fair comparison. That's more of a reflection on how many consoles sell vs discrete CPU graphics, not so much ATIs desktop GPU failures

Not really. The video card market as a whole sells upwards of 20 million units a quarter.

 

[Daedalus685]

In other news, ATi sold ~2.5Million console GPUs in the week before Christmas. It is shocking how badly their PC GPU division is doing in terms of volume honestly.

Two drums and a symbol falling off a cliff?

[Citation needed] as far as how many discrete graphics cards were sold in the same time frame.. then maybe we can make logical comaprisons instead of ludicrous tripe.

What on earth does how well consoles sell for Christmas have to do with how well discrete dx11 cards sell?

 

[lavaheadache]

Not really. The video card market as a whole sells upwards of 20 million units a quarter.

I may be contributing to that # this quarter. Just gonna wait to see what Fermi brings to the table and a potential spring refresher on the already awesome 5800 series.

 

[waffleironhead]

Not really. The video card market as a whole sells upwards of 20 million units a quarter.

and how many of those were nvidia directX11 gpus?

 

[Genx87]

I had to get a 5850 to replace my EVGA 8800 GTS 640. The instability was off the chart bringing down my PC multiple times daily. Now it has been two weeks and I'm still waiting for my first crash.

If my hand was not forced, I would have waited longer to see how this generation plays out, refreshes included.

Well, yeah, if my 4850 takes a dump I will buy one. Hopefully if it dies, it will die after Fermi is out so I can make a choice.

 

[yh125d]

Not really. The video card market as a whole sells upwards of 20 million units a quarter.

Yeah, but a hell of a lot more console GPUs

 

[Wreckage]

Yeah, but a hell of a lot more console GPUs

Well I also left out IGP's, which sell more than video cards and can be used for gaming.

True enough the console market is strong, but the PC market is not weak by comparison.

 

[Wreckage]

and how many of those were nvidia directX11 gpus?

How many of those were PhysX GPUs. I bet more than 2 million. What's your point?

Funny thing is I never said ATI "shipping" 2 million was a bad thing. Funny how people view the world.

 

[T2k]

Because a much more limited, proprietary-focused market is a direct comparison to a much more open and competitive one, amirite? Some of you need to read what you wrote before you hit "post."

Don't feed the NV-troll - he's consistently dishonest, incorrect and spins everything by leaving out even the most basic facts. Just ignore him, it's the best treatment - trolls always get angry by the lack of response.

 

[waffleironhead]

How many of those were PhysX GPUs. I bet more than 2 million. What's your point?

Funny thing is I never said ATI "shipping" 2 million was a bad thing. Funny how people view the world.

heh, since this was a thread about DX11 gpu sales I figured I would ask about the competitions sales so far. ()

 

[yh125d]

I had to get a 5850 to replace my EVGA 8800 GTS 640. The instability was off the chart bringing down my PC multiple times daily. Now it has been two weeks and I'm still waiting for my first crash.

If my hand was not forced, I would have waited longer to see how this generation plays out, refreshes included.

That much instability doesn't sound like a bad driver, it could be corrupted driver, corrupted OS, some sort of virus, or just an older GPU dying early

 

[BenSkywalker]

Because a much more limited, proprietary-focused market is a direct comparison to a much more open and competitive one, amirite? Some of you need to read what you wrote before you hit "post."

Sometimes I think suffering massive brain trauma may be the best way to really relate to some posters on these forums.

ATi wants to brag about their DX11 market penetration. They hype it everywhere they can and have press releases for rather miniscule sales milestones. By comparison, their outdated DX9 parts continue to dominate the gaming market. The amusing part about this entire situation is that the thing holding ATi seeing rapid deployment of DX11 back is ATi's far, far more popular gaming options.

What on earth does how well consoles sell for Christmas have to do with how well discrete dx11 cards sell?

If you are some drooling idiot fanboy not much. If you are interested in DX11 for what it can offer games, it means a great deal.

 

[Nemesis 1]

So whats the problem here with the Topic . AMD/ATI has shipped 2million + GPUs. Thats hype according to who . None in this topic can deny it. Their just spinners running around with tail between legs. Nothing more. How the Xbox 360 got in this is stupid as all hell / Even tho ATI developed it . They don't count those gpus . That a Microsoft chip fabbed for microsoft.

NV hypers are diminution as we can plainly see .

 

[MrK6]

Don't feed the NV-troll - he's consistently dishonest, incorrect and spins everything by leaving out even the most basic facts. Just ignore him, it's the best treatment - trolls always get angry by the lack of response.

Nah, I'd rather see them try to respond without looking stupid.

Speaking of which, stupidity in 3... 2... 1...

Sometimes I think suffering massive brain trauma may be the best way to really relate to some posters on these forums.

Ah yes, we're the problem, of course. Here's a hint, Billy, when three or more people tell you you made a stupid statement, you made a stupid statement.

ATi wants to brag about their DX11 market penetration. They hype it everywhere they can and have press releases for rather miniscule sales milestones. By comparison, their outdated DX9 parts continue to dominate the gaming market. The amusing part about this entire situation is that the thing holding ATi seeing rapid deployment of DX11 back is ATi's far, far more popular gaming options.

So now NVIDIA's options pale in comparison by so much, you've reduced yourself to bashing which of ATI's solutions isn't as great as the other? If that's not fanboy self-ownage, I don't know what is .

If you are some drooling idiot fanboy not much. If you are interested in DX11 for what it can offer games, it means a great deal.

So you bash the only company to get an actual DX11 part out there in 2009, the same company that is spearheading DX11 development (pretty much single-handedly). Counter-intuitive much?

 

[dreddfunk]

Sometimes I think suffering massive brain trauma may be the best way to really relate to some posters on these forums.
...
If you are some drooling idiot fanboy not much.

I can't fathom what these two sentences contributed to the discussion.

ATi wants to brag about their DX11 market penetration. They hype it everywhere they can and have press releases for rather miniscule sales milestones.

It's a company trying to score marketing points -- something that happens all the time -- why the bitterness?

By comparison, their outdated DX9 parts continue to dominate the gaming market. The amusing part about this entire situation is that the thing holding ATi seeing rapid deployment of DX11 back is ATi's far, far more popular gaming options.

The situation with consoles is also hardly new. The console cycle will always slow down the pace of new technology adoption. You could have lodged the same complaint years ago when the 8800-series came out: consoles were inhibiting the adoption of DX10.

In the end people bought the DX10 parts for their "obsolete" DX9 performance; and the situation is no different today.

But, and I think this is the crucial point, *any* increase in the availability and install base of DX11 parts speeds up the process. As soon as NV has an offering and it starts selling, the process of DX11 adoption will speed up.

Are they prematurely cheering themselves on? Of course, but that's what companies do.

If you are, as you say, interested in what DX11 can do for gaming, then you'd be cheering them on as well -- and cheering NV to get their DX11 parts out as quickly as possible. Only a substantial install base will convince developers to code for DX11 features.

 

[dreddfunk]

Speaking of which, stupidity in 3... 2... 1...

Their just spinners running around with tail between legs. ... NV hypers are diminution as we can plainly see .

Neither of these two sentences add anything to the discussion.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Thats correct . I was adderessing the NV trolls. Just as I am you right now. Same as your post isn't as you said adding anything to the topic.

 

[akugami]

ATi wants to brag about their DX11 market penetration. They hype it everywhere they can and have press releases for rather miniscule sales milestones. By comparison, their outdated DX9 parts continue to dominate the gaming market. The amusing part about this entire situation is that the thing holding ATi seeing rapid deployment of DX11 back is ATi's far, far more popular gaming options.

Is ATI hyping DX11 and how they are the only vendor of DX11 parts any different from nVidia hyping PhysX? No. If you were ATI it would be your fiduciary duty and obligation to push any advantages you have. How great the advantage is and whether it is only a perceived advantage (Sega's "Blast Processing" for example) is a different matter. Just like it is understandable why nVidia hypes PhysX. It is understandable why ATI hypes DX11 and being the only game in town if you want DX11.

 

[lavaheadache]

That much instability doesn't sound like a bad driver, it could be corrupted driver, corrupted OS, some sort of virus, or just an older GPU dying early

bake it!!!!!

 

[Daedalus685]

If you are some drooling idiot fanboy not much. If you are interested in DX11 for what it can offer games, it means a great deal.

I kind of resent that.. but I won't get upset with such a silly insult...

You claim that 2million dx11 sold is bad for ATI based on stats of consoles.. yet you don't bother validating any of your argument with market breakdowns. It is simply bad.. fine..

I understand why consoles being huge holds back PC games, don't be so patronizing.. It is blatantly obvious to the point that there is no need to say it any longer Ben.

But I fail to see how consoles out selling high end PC graphics cards has anything to do with how bad ATI is at PC graphics.. which is what you stated. You did not state anything about how PC gaming is borked regardless; you attacked ATI outright with some inane comment. As if any other companies DX 11 sales record is any better at this point in time...

Since you fail to grasp simple statistics, the reason I have a problem with your claim is that you compare two VASTLY different markets as if they are 1:1.. Well unfortunately the console market is MUCH larger than high end GPU markets.. Hence why I am shocked you’d bother comparing the two, let along during Christmas when every grandmother is out looking for a Wii.

It is totally baffling..

This was not a discussion about how consoles hold back PCs, you were attacking a company using meaningless stats and falling back on what everyone already knows to avoid looking like a fool.

How many DX11 GPUs should ATI have sold by the way? Why is the number they have sold so terrible? it is certainly more than the DX10 GPU's the sold when vista came out.. 2million seems pretty good to me.. given that it is 10% of the entire market (including low end pos cards that are in everything).. Sure you can legitimately claim that you expect more, but don't act like such a tool.. just claim that and be done with it.

 

[v8envy]

ATI may have shipped 2 million GPUs but they must have been the 57xx variety. A quick search on Bing implies that supply is catching up with demand but e-tailers are still in full-on gouge mode for the 5850 and 5870.

 

[Jaskalas]

Is ATI hyping DX11 and how they are the only vendor of DX11 parts any different from nVidia hyping PhysX? No.

I'll take DX11 over PhysX.

 

[Daedalus685]

ATI may have shipped 2 million GPUs but they must have been the 57xx variety. A quick search on Bing implies that supply is catching up with demand but e-tailers are still in full-on gouge mode for the 5850 and 5870.

Most sites are reporting 5800 series in to the tune of 700million. So most were 5700, at least half anyway. Is that a bad thing though? Certainly coudl be a bit surprising given how meh the 5770 was compared to teh 4870.. but what are you gonna do, a company is supposed to sell more low end.