ATI X800pro for $330 ?!?!?!?

[futuristicmonkey]

Originally posted by: Arkali

Everything ATi has made in the past 3 years has been garbage, and everyone who owns that Canuck produced trash is human garbage.

The past 3 years includes 2002 - the year the 9700 Pro was introduced. Are you saying that when the 9700 Pro came out, you were calling it garbage?

Edit: And, really, it's not that cool to go around saying Canadians are stupid, and how Canada is worse than jail. It just makes you sound ignorant.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: futuristicmonkey

Originally posted by: Arkali

Everything ATi has made in the past 3 years has been garbage, and everyone who owns that Canuck produced trash is human garbage.

The past 3 years includes 2002 - the year the 9700 Pro was introduced. Are you saying that when the 9700 Pro came out, you were calling it garbage?

Edit: And, really, it's not that cool to go around saying Canadians are stupid, and how Canada is worse than jail. It just makes you sound ignorant.

And what about Canadians, particularly elected politicians, going around calling Americans stupid? You have ignorant politicians??!!

 

[ronnn]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

While he's nowhere near as bad as Cindy22 was, he is on the same road.

If he wants, we can take it to PM's and talk about things.

Sorry again OP. will stop posting here about this. Keys

Really, I find his posts not at all overboard. But than I have a well known preference for ATI. Many people that have owned the x800 pro and 6800gt have said that in actual game play it is hard to tell the difference, excepting doom 3 of course. They must all be totally biased and should be banned. Myself I would have banned anyone that kept supporting the 5900 series long after it was well proven bogus.
But they banned Cindy22 for constantly pointing this out in an irritating fashion. That is the worst part Cindy was proven right and Nvidia dropped that series of cards like a hot potato.

 

[SneakyStuff]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: ronnn

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
You missed the point as usual. Stop being so freakish about your precious ATI garbage. And besides, I have never heard of hartware.net. When AT says it, I'll believe it and accept it, which far exceeds the extent of your abilities. What I'm trying to say is, stop acting like a damn 12 year old crybaby. You have to be able to accept defeat as well as victory or else your opinions mean absolutely nothing to me.

Sorry OP. This guy is a PITA. 330 for an X800 pro is a super deal!!! I would have jumped on it myself.

12 year old crybaby? There is another nvidia salesman that makes those type of statements..... but
Sorry I sort of expected better of you. :Q

You are right to expect better of me ronnn. But this guy's posts throughout this forum are always nothing but one sided remarks. Show me a thread (in the video forum) where he doesn't trash nvidia somehow (large or small) and I will apologize to him. Some people just bring out the worst in me, and this guy is one of them. So, it's not just from his comment in this thread, it cumulitive of every thread I see him in.

While he's nowhere near as bad as Cindy22 was, he is on the same road.

If he wants, we can take it to PM's and talk about things.

Sorry again OP. will stop posting here about this. Keys

You're right keys, relax, he already HAS the x800 pro, no sense in arguing with him. Just take solace in the fact that you already have a 6800GT

 

[theblackbox]

Benchmarks are, and the two cards in question are very close much of the time, with each gaining victories in certain games.

i don't understand why it always comes down to benchmarks, and not gameplay.

I have an AMD 64 3000+ with a BFG 6800gt and a p4 3.2 with an ATI x800pro


Both do very well with games, and i do not see a noticeable difference when playing games except in farcry when hdr is enabled. Otherwise, bot cards are very good and will give you years of gaming pleasure, or days of benchmarking fun, whatever your pleasure.

I will say this of the two, though, the ati runs cooler, quieter, and it seems these days ati has been better at getting drivers out.
The 6800gt had issues with my nforce 3 250 mobo until i disabled fast writes. now it performs great.

16 pipelines vs 12 pipelines? i don't notice the difference when playing games.

It's a good deal, and a good card. if you got it, enjoy it.

 

[drpootums]

Originally posted by: theblackbox

Benchmarks are, and the two cards in question are very close much of the time, with each gaining victories in certain games.

i don't understand why it always comes down to benchmarks, and not gameplay.

I have an AMD 64 3000+ with a BFG 6800gt and a p4 3.2 with an ATI x800pro


Both do very well with games, and i do not see a noticeable difference when playing games except in farcry when hdr is enabled. Otherwise, bot cards are very good and will give you years of gaming pleasure, or days of benchmarking fun, whatever your pleasure.

I will say this of the two, though, the ati runs cooler, quieter, and it seems these days ati has been better at getting drivers out.
The 6800gt had issues with my nforce 3 250 mobo until i disabled fast writes. now it performs great.

16 pipelines vs 12 pipelines? i don't notice the difference when playing games.

It's a good deal, and a good card. if you got it, enjoy it.

THANK YOU!!! I just want people to stop arguing for a while so this thread doesnt get locked...

Anyways, that is what i wanted to hear. Also, i know PS 3 and dx9.0c are 6xxx only, and i've heard that it makes no difference and that it's just to help speed up the 6xxx series, but i've also heard that new games will be designed for this and you should get a card that supports it. I dont know what to believe.

And also, is there any hope to unlock the pipes on the ATI brand card?

 

[theblackbox]

on unlocking ati version, no. i don't think you could without actually messing with the chip, which i wouldn't risk

i'm happy with mine just the way it is, 12 pipelines and all. it plays every game i throw at it, and tommorow i'll have half life 2 on both, and i'm sure they will both do well.

the x800pro, while not an evolution in design, is a well refined card that offers great performance as is.

i just laugh everytime i hear someone say one of the chipsets destroys the other, and then you look at the numbers and they are always close. remember, they are just numbers. when you play games, they are both about equal with a good cpu.

in support of direct x 9c and ps 3 , i think ps3 has a lot to offer, but by the time it is fully implemented i imagine both ati and nvidia will have the next great video cards out that will be even better and once again double the performance

but right now, today, they both do well, and will for a while.

 

[drpootums]

Oh, i found this series of benchmarks: http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NjI4LDk= (there are more before this page, so u can look through them as you like)

It seems to show that the X800pro is quite close to the nVidia 6800 ULTRA!!! I mean the ultra is faster sometimes, but for the most part there is almost no difference, and this IS a trusted site. I think after seeing this i may jump on that deal, but the pipe unlocking and the PS 3 with dx9.0c to pose a concern to me though...

 

[Keysplayr]

From what I have heard, You need to get the X800pro VIVO with a yellow connector on it to be able to softmod to 16pipes. Though from what I have seen, these are mostly all snatched up and are just about as expensive as a x800XT. So you might as well just get the XT if you can't deal with 12 pipes. If you need to have 16 pipes, get a GT. You spend at most, 70.00 more than your X800pro, but it supports SM 3.0. I mention these things because you said they were concerns of yours. It is still too early to say whether or not SM 3.0 will offer any discernable difference. Minor performance gains, sure, but image quality is not different. At any rate, if you are that concerned about pipes, save your money and get either the GT or the XT so you won't kick yourself or have buyers remorse later on.

 

[RealityTime]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: futuristicmonkey

Originally posted by: Arkali

Everything ATi has made in the past 3 years has been garbage, and everyone who owns that Canuck produced trash is human garbage.

The past 3 years includes 2002 - the year the 9700 Pro was introduced. Are you saying that when the 9700 Pro came out, you were calling it garbage?

Edit: And, really, it's not that cool to go around saying Canadians are stupid, and how Canada is worse than jail. It just makes you sound ignorant.

And what about Canadians, particularly elected politicians, going around calling Americans stupid? You have ignorant politicians??!!

possibly somewhat true. but its not directed at you, don't feel so bad, it's more towards that madman you call a leader.

 

[ronnn]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

And what about Canadians, particularly elected politicians, going around calling Americans stupid? You have ignorant politicians??!!

No Canadian politicians do not call Americans stupid. They reserve that remark for just one American and I think the word was moron. Canadians actually quite like most Americans, but unfortunately relations with Washington are chilly right now. Maybe a nice trade war and I can get an x800 cheap.
:beer:

 

[boyRacer]

Originally posted by: Arkali

Originally posted by: Zero523
Dude the 6800 GT is better than the X800 PRO... its a fact.. go get your research, and you will see. www.xbitlabs.com
www.tomshardware.com
read in forums also.. www.pcper.com

Well a cursory review of Xbitlabs reviews the cards in question are neck and neck most of the time, with the X800Pro pulling ahead in the Unreal engined games, and CS:S, and the 6800GT pulling ahead in OpenGL.

But irregardless of the facts, I will continue to personally attack anyone who even hints that they like ATi filth.

Everything ATi has made in the past 3 years has been garbage, and everyone who owns that Canuck produced trash is human garbage.

*FANBOY ALERT*

I like your so called ATi filth, so are you going to attack me?

At the time I bought my 9700 Pro, there was nothing else close to it for the money. But before that I had a GF3 and a GF2 Ultra which had nothing else close to it for the money. Which means I am not a fanboy of either brand and only buy whatever makes more sense. You personal attacks is worrying because not only are you taking this way too seriously but you seem rather disturbed about other people thinking independently from what you want them to think.

 

[Gulzakar]

I returned the 6800gt.

noisy, poor 2d quality, wmv accel sucked.

the performance difference between that and the x800pro is a toss up.

I used to hate ATI, but lately their drivers have been top notch

 

[drpootums]

ok, thanks for reviving my thread (although i think the pro is out of stock where it was for so cheap).

I may get the leadtek GT, it seems to be quiet and offer very good oc's, but i'll check on the FS/FT forums for the best deals on these.

 

[rammstein junkie]

yeah outpost.com dosent seem to carry them any more if i recall.