ATI's R580 is X1900 XTX

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: fierydemise
I have a request, will people quit quoting the INQ as fact, we know how badly the royaly screwed up on R520. Just put some kind of disclaimer in the title or something, please.

the title needs to have ****OFFICIAL**** and ****CONFIRMED**** in it.



i don't understand what clock speed this thing is supposed to be at. in the title it says 695. in the article it says 650.

for an english site they can't use the language worth a damn, i'll tell you that much.

You can't complain about use of English on the Anandtech forums

 

[otispunkmeyer]

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
I am waiting for the X1900 XXX adults only version

LOL, Over 18 only! Ask your mom!

has a nekkid pic of ruby taking it in the butt on the HSF:Q

 

[NoStateofMind]

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
I am waiting for the X1900 XXX adults only version

LOL, Over 18 only! Ask your mom!

has a nekkid pic of ruby taking it in the butt on the HSF:Q

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA LOL ROFLMAO

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
I am waiting for the X1900 XXX adults only version

LOL, Over 18 only! Ask your mom!

has a nekkid pic of ruby taking it in the butt on the HSF:Q

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA LOL ROFLMAO

:laugh:

 

[Cookie Monster]

Originally posted by: dug777

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
I am waiting for the X1900 XXX adults only version

LOL, Over 18 only! Ask your mom!

has a nekkid pic of ruby taking it in the butt on the HSF:Q

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA LOL ROFLMAO

:laugh:

LMAO

 

[Steelski]

the nvidia girl was taking it between the fins. All over the gills

 

[the Chase]

Originally posted by: Steelski
the nvidia girl was taking it between the fins. All over the gills

Lol- a REAL pearl necklace.....now I can't remember my question.....

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: fierydemise
I have a request, will people quit quoting the INQ as fact, we know how badly the royaly screwed up on R520. Just put some kind of disclaimer in the title or something, please.

the title needs to have ****OFFICIAL**** and ****CONFIRMED**** in it.



i don't understand what clock speed this thing is supposed to be at. in the title it says 695. in the article it says 650.

for an english site they can't use the language worth a damn, i'll tell you that much.

It seems like they might be confusing the clock speeds of the X1800XTPE with the X1900XTX (say that three times fast!).

I agree that the naming schemes are becoming pr0n0graphic. Pretty soon they'll be bundling "Leisure Suit Larry" games w/ these cards.

 

[the Chase]

Ah yes- so a lot of peeps are saying that this card(and the G71) are refreshes. Is that really the case? I know(or heard) that a different team was working on the R580 and it has more vertex shaders? hope thats right. And the G71 is a die shrink to 90nm and I thought more pipes(though nobody seems to know how many for sure). So would these cards really be refreshes?

 

[Sc4freak]

They are refreshes. A completely new architecture won't be until G80/R600 (unified?).

 

[n7]

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
I am waiting for the X1900 XXX adults only version

LOL, Over 18 only! Ask your mom!

has a nekkid pic of ruby taking it in the butt on the HSF:Q

:Q

Rated R, for Radeon... :laugh:

 

[BenSkywalker]

Ah yes- so a lot of peeps are saying that this card(and the G71) are refreshes. Is that really the case? I know(or heard) that a different team was working on the R580 and it has more vertex shaders?

Likely everything you heard was true. It tends to be that a team will be working on a refresh while the major core is still in development- adding vertex shaders to a refresh part is something we have seen previously and it certainly wouldn't be anything that prevented it from being a refresh part. Even if R600 was ready to hard launch right now it wouldn't do ATi too much good until DX10 is ready so we aren't going to see their real 'next gen' core until later this year.

 

[StrangerGuy]

Originally posted by: n7

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
I am waiting for the X1900 XXX adults only version

LOL, Over 18 only! Ask your mom!

has a nekkid pic of ruby taking it in the butt on the HSF:Q

:Q

Rated R, for Radeon... :laugh:

RADeON.

Rated ADults ONly.

 

[Munky]

Originally posted by: StrangerGuy

Originally posted by: n7

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
I am waiting for the X1900 XXX adults only version

LOL, Over 18 only! Ask your mom!

has a nekkid pic of ruby taking it in the butt on the HSF:Q

:Q

Rated R, for Radeon... :laugh:

RADeON.

Rated ADults ONly.

So, does that mean the geforce cards are rated G for babies and little kids? Those things are child's play

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: Sc4freak
They are refreshes. A completely new architecture won't be until G80/R600 (unified?).

If you call a quadrupling of the pipelines on the X1600 core a "refresh" then so be it. It's quite obvious that this is a new core. Pretty much all that it has in common with the X1800 core is the memory controller, and perhaps the same architecture within each pipeline.

A refresh part is almost always the same core simply shrunk down on a smaller process and clocked higher AFAIK.

 

[n7]

Originally posted by: munky
So, does that mean the geforce cards are rated G for babies and little kids? Those things are child's play

Apparently so :laugh:

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: munky

Originally posted by: StrangerGuy

Originally posted by: n7

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
I am waiting for the X1900 XXX adults only version

LOL, Over 18 only! Ask your mom!

has a nekkid pic of ruby taking it in the butt on the HSF:Q

:Q

Rated R, for Radeon... :laugh:

RADeON.

Rated ADults ONly.

So, does that mean the geforce cards are rated G for babies and little kids? Those things are child's play

This may be as sad as it gets on the video forum- using the letters from a video cards name as some sort of connection to MPAA movie ratings.

 

[n7]

ROFL Rollo, lighten up a little :laugh:

We're just joking around

BTW did you get my PM, or do you have me blocked?

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Sc4freak
They are refreshes. A completely new architecture won't be until G80/R600 (unified?).

If you call a quadrupling of the pipelines on the X1600 core a "refresh" then so be it. It's quite obvious that this is a new core. Pretty much all that it has in common with the X1800 core is the memory controller, and perhaps the same architecture within each pipeline.

A refresh part is almost always the same core simply shrunk down on a smaller process and clocked higher AFAIK.

it's a refresh just as much as the geforce4 was a refresh of the geforce3.

heck, technically the geforce 7800 is a refresh of the 6800.

new generations add new features, such as shader models, programability, t&l, 32 bit color, etc. refreshes add playability. essentially, the featureset of the 6800 and the 7800 are the same.

otherwise you'd get ridiculous results like the x850xtpe being a new generation, rather than a refresh of the x800.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Well, simply the R580 is different to the R520. A different architecture for sure.
The G71 is THE perfected/refined nv30. It will be the last of its design before NV rolls in the G80 (NV50?)

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Sc4freak
They are refreshes. A completely new architecture won't be until G80/R600 (unified?).

If you call a quadrupling of the pipelines on the X1600 core a "refresh" then so be it. It's quite obvious that this is a new core. Pretty much all that it has in common with the X1800 core is the memory controller, and perhaps the same architecture within each pipeline.

A refresh part is almost always the same core simply shrunk down on a smaller process and clocked higher AFAIK.

it's a refresh just as much as the geforce4 was a refresh of the geforce3.

heck, technically the geforce 7800 is a refresh of the 6800.

new generations add new features, such as shader models, programability, t&l, 32 bit color, etc. refreshes add playability. essentially, the featureset of the 6800 and the 7800 are the same.

otherwise you'd get ridiculous results like the x850xtpe being a new generation, rather than a refresh of the x800.

Yes, but the X850XTPE is essentially an overclocked X800XT.

The GeForce4 was a new generation part; I distinctly remember the hype surrounding it. It also had new features like DX8.1 support IIRC.

My point is that this card is *not* a refresh part in the traditional sense.

 

[Munky]

It can be argued either way. From past experience, refreshes were usually just speed bumps and die shrinks of previous parts, and the r580 is definitely more than that. But I wouldnt go as far as calling it a new architecture, because the core components are still the same - it still has the same ALU arrangement (1 full and 1 mini), feature set, decoupled texture units, memory controller... in fact, the only major change is the use of 3 pixel shaders per pipe instead of one compared to the r520. So, call it an "architectural expansion" of the r520 if you will, but we won't see a completely new gpu until the r600, which is itself derived from the r500.

 

[coldpower27]

To me I usually categorize changes in GPU tech this way:

minor refresh R423 to R480, NV35 to NV38, NV15 to NV16.
significant refresh NV40 to G70, NV20 to NV25, NV30 to NV35.
Major core change Ex. NV3x to NV4x, R4xx to R5xx.

Takes a guess where R580 will end up???

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: coldpower27
To me I usually categorize changes in GPU tech this way:

minor refresh R423 to R480, NV35 to NV38, NV15 to NV16.
significant refresh NV40 to G70, NV20 to NV25, NV30 to NV35.
Major core change Ex. NV3x to NV4x, R4xx to R5xx.

Takes a guess where R580 will end up???

Significant refresh???

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: munky
we won't see a completely new gpu until the r600, which is itself derived from the r500.

What's the R500 again? Xbox360 GPU?? So...many...core...designs...