Atlanta's Proposed Cop City Goes To Ballot

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ivwshane

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So we need to require proper training before suppling proper training? I believe I just banged my knees on a paradox.

Or maybe we prioritize training that deals with interactions they are more likely to face on a daily basis. What do you think cops are more likely to face on a daily basis, shootouts, high speed chases, drug busts, or domestic disputes, mental/counseling, traffic stops?
 

BoomerD

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Or maybe we prioritize training that deals with interactions they are more likely to face on a daily basis. What do you think cops are more likely to face on a daily basis, shootouts, high speed chases, drug busts, or domestic disputes, mental/counseling, traffic stops?

Maybe several or all of those in one interaction?
 
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Unfortunately, all too often, those can and have all occurred within the same incident.

A traffic stop for a bad taillight can lead to a chase because the driver is holding drugs or leaving the scene of a domestic, or may even have kidnapped a domestic partner where one or both are in a mental health crisis.
 

ivwshane

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I guess you guys missed the key phrase, “more likely to face” because a high speed chase and a shootout are both very unlikely to happen. But I’m using statistics and not my feels.



/smh
 
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Didn't Georgia police just fucking kill two people by performing a PIT maneuver on the highway? Which, I guess would be one way of making the case they need better training for that, but in reality it just shows how fucking stupid it is to be doing the high speed chases in the first place. Apparently that happened like a year ago.

Actually, JFC:
https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/2-children-ejected-after-pit-maneuver-in-i-85-chase

Yeah, just what we need is police doing this shit more.

Unfortunately, all too often, those can and have all occurred within the same incident.

A traffic stop for a bad taillight can lead to a chase because the driver is holding drugs or leaving the scene of a domestic, or may even have kidnapped a domestic partner where one or both are in a mental health crisis.

Unfortunately you're just talking out of your ass. High speed police chases are not a common occurance and are fucking pointless and stupid and actually unfortunately all too often caused specifically by police escalating a situation rather then out of some random happenstance when performing a normal traffic stop. Just like we see with shootings, where cops pull some bullshit, intentionally escalate a situation so they can work their adrenaline junky testostergasm out.

Like this situation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Timothy_Russell_and_Malissa_Williams

Seriously fuck police acting like that and fuck anyone defending their blatant fucked up psycopathic desires to act out action movies.
 
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ALL chases, 100% of chases are initiated by the driver of the fleeing vehicle failing to stop when directed.

The reasons they fail to stop can be all over the board.

Whether or not the pursuing officer should continue the chase given circumstances or traffic is another matter. THAT is where training comes in.
 

Vic

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ALL chases, 100% of chases are initiated by the driver of the fleeing vehicle failing to stop when directed.

The reasons they fail to stop can be all over the board.

Whether or not the pursuing officer should continue the chase given circumstances or traffic is another matter. THAT is where training comes in.
I, for one, am glad to live in a state where police are prohibited from putting innocent lives in danger just because they don't know how to take down a license plate number or use the radio.
 

Vic

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How can you just refuse to do your basic duty?

‘Stop Cop City’ petition campaign in limbo as Atlanta officials refuse to process signatures

Officials from the City of Atlanta have refused to verify tens of thousands of signatures submitted by activists who have been trying for two years to stop the construction of a police and firefighter training center.
Because police corruption is that powerful.

The reason the GOP took over every big city police union in the country was so they could continue to wield power in those cities in spite of the voters. So do you think they're going to let a little petition stop them?
 

hal2kilo

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I, for one, am glad to live in a state where police are prohibited from putting innocent lives in danger just because they don't know how to take down a license plate number or use the radio.
Well, they have restored the chases here in WA cause reasons, and now people are getting killed again trying to catch these people.
 
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