"Atom bomb dropped on Hiroshima"

Squisher

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My dad was stationed in the Philippines (today is his birthday). He was among some of the first ground troops to go to Hiroshima. I took him his present today and we got to talking about it. He said the most memorable thing about it was the lack of rubble from all the destruction. It was unlike all the other sites he had been to that were bombed out, in that rather than all the buildings laying in heaps it was like it had been swept clean. There was nothing.
 
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Sixty five years ago today.

BOOM!

I've commonly heard that the firebombings of Dresden were worse but this is only taught in US schools. In reality around 30k died in the firebombings while around 500k totally died by or because of the nukes dropped over Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

I also have to ask why, the only thing left in the peace treaty was that the empereor had to step down, he refused but the Japanese army had already surrendered and retracted before this, the bombes were dropped and then the emperore still stayed on?

It stands to day as the most horrific act any nation has done to another nation considering the pre-bombing surrender.

That is the reality of it as reported by troops right before they were ordered to get out which reminds me of a situation i was in seven years ago.
 

zerogear

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My dad was stationed in the Philippines (today is his birthday). He was among some of the first ground troops to go to Hiroshima. I took him his present today and we got to talking about it. He said the most memorable thing about it was the lack of rubble from all the destruction. It was unlike all the other sites he had been to that were bombed out, in that rather than all the buildings laying in heaps it was like it had been swept clean. There was nothing.

Pretty much, all the kept of the old Hiroshima was the building that I posted, which is the building that was directly under where the atomic bomb was dropped, and was the only one left standing, and a peace museum with various things from the atomic bomb drop, such as human outline that was burned into buildings behind them, remnants of things that were left after people were incinerated. Pretty gruesome stuff.

Shouldn't even joke about dropping an atomic bomb on another nation.
 

Iron Woode

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I've commonly heard that the firebombings of Dresden were worse but this is only taught in US schools. In reality around 30k died in the firebombings while around 500k totally died by or because of the nukes dropped over Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

I also have to ask why, the only thing left in the peace treaty was that the empereor had to step down, he refused but the Japanese army had already surrendered and retracted before this, the bombes were dropped and then the emperore still stayed on?

It stands to day as the most horrific act any nation has done to another nation considering the pre-bombing surrender.

That is the reality of it as reported by troops right before they were ordered to get out which reminds me of a situation i was in seven years ago.
nice rewriting of history.

Fire bombing of Tokyo killed at least 120,000 people. It is estimated that the real number was over 200,000.

Japan never surrendered until after the bombs were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

The combined casualties was around 200,000 by 1950 from both atomic bombs.
 

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Obligatory aliens gave humans the secret to the atomic bomb in order to bring an end to WWII conspiracy theorist loaded with evidence and ironing but no sarcasm checking in.
 

Pacfanweb

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This is Tokyo after fire bombing. How is this any less worse than Hiroshima or Nagasaki?
The place is just as flattened. The people were just as dead, and there were more of them dead than at Hiroshima.

Why is it that because it only took one bomb to level a square mile of Hiroshima does that make it so much more terrible?

BTW, none of these bombings are any more terrible and brutal than the crimes against humanity the Japanese committed throughout Asia during the war. And even though they've offered a few lame apologies, they didn't really mean them....they still gloss over their own brutality, and teach that Hiroshima was an atrocity.



 

mcmilljb

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I've commonly heard that the firebombings of Dresden were worse but this is only taught in US schools. In reality around 30k died in the firebombings while around 500k totally died by or because of the nukes dropped over Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

I also have to ask why, the only thing left in the peace treaty was that the empereor had to step down, he refused but the Japanese army had already surrendered and retracted before this, the bombes were dropped and then the emperore still stayed on?

It stands to day as the most horrific act any nation has done to another nation considering the pre-bombing surrender.

That is the reality of it as reported by troops right before they were ordered to get out which reminds me of a situation i was in seven years ago.

That's a pretty bold statement.

Lets take a look at what the Japanese were up to in Unit 731.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731
 

Firsttime

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Such is the nature of war.

There was a thing on the news tonight about this, an interview with a POW who saw the bomb fall. He thought the world was ending and I don't blame him. I just can't even comprehend what that must have felt like. Crazy stuff.
 

Pacfanweb

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I've commonly heard that the firebombings of Dresden were worse but this is only taught in US schools. In reality around 30k died in the firebombings while around 500k totally died by or because of the nukes dropped over Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

I also have to ask why, the only thing left in the peace treaty was that the empereor had to step down, he refused but the Japanese army had already surrendered and retracted before this, the bombes were dropped and then the emperore still stayed on?

It stands to day as the most horrific act any nation has done to another nation considering the pre-bombing surrender.

That is the reality of it as reported by troops right before they were ordered to get out which reminds me of a situation i was in seven years ago.
Lying liar.

There was no "pre-bombing surrender". The only surrender that was ever acceptable, and the Japanese knew this, was unconditional. Every offer from them had things in it other than "we give up, unconditionally".

Not only that, but AFTER the bombings, when their war criminal Emperor was going to address the citizens by radio, there were an attempted coup de'tat by military who did not want to surrender despite the bomb.

All this, and they had been arming women and children with bamboo spears and teaching them hand-to-hand combat. Plus they had over a million military personnel on the mainland.

And they never met the surrender terms until the bombs were dropped.
 

Patranus

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God, all of the liberals here calling this horrific and what not disgust me.

It was a war. They attacked the US first. The bombing saved over a million Japanese lives and over 300,000 american troops.

No apologies, ever.
 

IronWing

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God, all of the liberals here calling this horrific and what not disgust me.

It was a war. They attacked the US first. The bombing saved over a million Japanese lives and over 300,000 american troops.

No apologies, ever.
Item one: It was horrific.
Item two: No apologies needed.
Item Three: JofS is a solidier in service to one of history's most vicious nation/empires. You can take his complaint and turn it with a mirror.
 

amdhunter

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God, all of the liberals here calling this horrific and what not disgust me.

It was a war. They attacked the US first. The bombing saved over a million Japanese lives and over 300,000 american troops.

No apologies, ever.

Exactly my point. Drop a bomb on Iraq and Afghanistan and we can "save" more lives there too.
We've probably killed as much as an A-bomb there already anyway. An A-bomb would be more cost and life-effective.
 
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