ATOT College Student Crew

[TruePaige]

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: TruePaige

Originally posted by: Howard
I hate when people say that work is harder than school. Please complete an engineering program before you say that.

It's nothing to be ashamed of, or to try and prove. Heck, most of go to school so that our life will be easier in the future. That's the goal.

Er, thanks, I guess. Not too sure what you're trying to say there, but I'm just peeved by that particular generalization.

Hmm I guess it sounded odd.

My point...

Go to School, Work Hard > Nice life, easier to live.

 

[sjwaste]

Originally posted by: Spartan Niner

Originally posted by: Homerboy

Originally posted by: rgwalt
Wait until you graduate and get a job... then it is hell week full time.

This is so completely true. College kids think school is "hard" The real world is not better kids. Not to mention, at the going rate you wont have jobs ready for you when you graduate.

Not completely true. I don't think school is "hard" so much as time consuming. Work ends when it ends, but responsibilities in school never do, especially if you are more than casually involved in club and volunteer activities in addition to holding a part-time job or two.

I'll decide whether or not the "real world" is worse than college soon enough. I start my full-time job in June

Of course sjwaste has most of us beat, but that's as expected of 3Ls about to take the bar

Problem is, unless you have a sweet job, work never ends either. To advance, you have to compete with the folks that have zero personal life, and dedicate every minute to work.

As I mentioned before, I'm working and billing 50 hours a week on top of going to class, studying, and getting ready for the bar. My job could care less that I'm going to law school, which is my first cue to get out of what I'm doing. If the market were better, I'd have an attorney job lined up already. It's not, so I don't, but I expect that to change.

After undergrad, I learned that the first few years are fun and somewhat carefree, but after that the responsibility starts to mount. Of course, I'm doing this so that I might retire earlier, not so that I can buy more things -- after a few years out of college, you'll be ready for retirement just like I am!

 

[TecHNooB]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
rofl. Hell week. You think you have it "sooooooo tough" in college. Please, give me a break. :roll:

8AM-1AM everyday + 10-20 hours each weekend is not tough?

 

[IEC]

Originally posted by: TecHNooB

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
rofl. Hell week. You think you have it "sooooooo tough" in college. Please, give me a break. :roll:

8AM-1AM everyday + 10-20 hours each weekend is not tough?

Shh, he hasn't seen the 140-hour weeks that have been pulled around here. It's child's play, right? :laugh:

 

[Leros]

Lets face it, certain majors are way easier than others. Different majors have very different work loads.

For the first 2 years of my undergrad I was double majoring in computer science and computer engineering. The average computer science class required about 2-3 hours of work a week. The average computer engineering class required about 8-14.

 

[Crono]

Why did this turn into a college vs "real world" thread? How difficult a person's college or job experience is entirely dependent on the situation of that person. It's possible for either college or a job/career to be more difficult than the other.

Now everyone who isn't a college student about to get owned by the next couple of weeks, please leave. You're making us feel bad

Now to get back on topic, I have stockpiled a large amount of tea and coffee (yay, caffeine!). I'm currently drinking apricot flavored tea (normally a plain green tea drinker, but thought I'd give it a try) from Adagio. Mmm. Studying right now for Patho test on Thursday, last test before finals.

 

[MrPickins]

Today is the second of 4 tests in 5 days, but finals haven't started yet...

When they do, all of mine are on consecutive days with my two hardest being separated by 12 hrs. :|

 

[invidia]

I'm a computer engineering graduate.

I spend roughly 20 hours per class a week on weekly programming assignments/projects. 60 hours per week (3 classes) + I work as a SE intern during the weekends.

I also worked full-time before, so I know both. Real work is shit compared to what I'm doing at the moment. I can't wait to get our of here and get back to full time work.

 

[Leros]

Originally posted by: invidia
I don't complain about hell weeks since my parents work 8am to 10pm 7 days a week.

What do your parents do?

 

[futuristicmonkey]

Originally posted by: Howard
I hate when people say that work is harder than school. Please complete an engineering program before you say that.

Indeed! I've just finished my fifth of six final exams (next is tomorrow) in my second year of a four-year EE program. The standard length is five years, but doing 6 courses/semester means I graduate in two years rather than three!

Great balls of fire! /goose

 

[invidia]

Originally posted by: Leros

Originally posted by: invidia
I don't complain about hell weeks since my parents work 8am to 10pm 7 days a week.

What do your parents do?

Waiter and the other production work for a defense contractor. Both are close to min wage.

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: sjwaste

Originally posted by: Spartan Niner

Originally posted by: Homerboy

Originally posted by: rgwalt
Wait until you graduate and get a job... then it is hell week full time.

This is so completely true. College kids think school is "hard" The real world is not better kids. Not to mention, at the going rate you wont have jobs ready for you when you graduate.

Not completely true. I don't think school is "hard" so much as time consuming. Work ends when it ends, but responsibilities in school never do, especially if you are more than casually involved in club and volunteer activities in addition to holding a part-time job or two.

I'll decide whether or not the "real world" is worse than college soon enough. I start my full-time job in June

Of course sjwaste has most of us beat, but that's as expected of 3Ls about to take the bar

Problem is, unless you have a sweet job, work never ends either. To advance, you have to compete with the folks that have zero personal life, and dedicate every minute to work.

As I mentioned before, I'm working and billing 50 hours a week on top of going to class, studying, and getting ready for the bar. My job could care less that I'm going to law school, which is my first cue to get out of what I'm doing. If the market were better, I'd have an attorney job lined up already. It's not, so I don't, but I expect that to change.

After undergrad, I learned that the first few years are fun and somewhat carefree, but after that the responsibility starts to mount. Of course, I'm doing this so that I might retire earlier, not so that I can buy more things -- after a few years out of college, you'll be ready for retirement just like I am!

I don't know a single soul that billed 50 hours during law school or during bar prep...I think it's a terrible idea, especially during prep. You are going to want to spend any little free time you have relaxing.

 

[buck]

Originally posted by: Spartan Niner

Originally posted by: Homerboy

Originally posted by: rgwalt
Wait until you graduate and get a job... then it is hell week full time.

This is so completely true. College kids think school is "hard" The real world is not better kids. Not to mention, at the going rate you wont have jobs ready for you when you graduate.

Not completely true. I don't think school is "hard" so much as time consuming. Work ends when it ends, but responsibilities in school never do, especially if you are more than casually involved in club and volunteer activities in addition to holding a part-time job or two.

I'll decide whether or not the "real world" is worse than college soon enough. I start my full-time job in June

Of course sjwaste has most of us beat, but that's as expected of 3Ls about to take the bar

I wish my job were like that....

 

[sjwaste]

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug

Originally posted by: sjwaste


Problem is, unless you have a sweet job, work never ends either. To advance, you have to compete with the folks that have zero personal life, and dedicate every minute to work.

As I mentioned before, I'm working and billing 50 hours a week on top of going to class, studying, and getting ready for the bar. My job could care less that I'm going to law school, which is my first cue to get out of what I'm doing. If the market were better, I'd have an attorney job lined up already. It's not, so I don't, but I expect that to change.

After undergrad, I learned that the first few years are fun and somewhat carefree, but after that the responsibility starts to mount. Of course, I'm doing this so that I might retire earlier, not so that I can buy more things -- after a few years out of college, you'll be ready for retirement just like I am!

I don't know a single soul that billed 50 hours during law school or during bar prep...I think it's a terrible idea, especially during prep. You are going to want to spend any little free time you have relaxing.

Neither do I, and frankly, neither does my school -- at least not for Virginia bar exam test takers.

I'll work something out, considering Barbri is 4 hours a day. But with the market the way it is, quitting and hoping for the best isn't a great option.

But I've been billing between 40 and 50 for all 4 years of school now. It hasn't been horrible, but you have to streamline everything. I don't expect that most people that go to law school right out of undergrad would consider it an option, but there are many folks like myself who went in with a couple of years of experience that have handled it.

For some, the biggest hardship is coming now, where their biglaw offers got deferred after they quit their jobs. It's no joke, most evening students have real obligations -- families, mortgage, more than just student loans to pay off. I feel for them right now.

That's just life right now, though. I'm hoping to land an in-house counsel position, but I have to pass the bar first.

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: sjwaste

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug

Originally posted by: sjwaste


Problem is, unless you have a sweet job, work never ends either. To advance, you have to compete with the folks that have zero personal life, and dedicate every minute to work.

As I mentioned before, I'm working and billing 50 hours a week on top of going to class, studying, and getting ready for the bar. My job could care less that I'm going to law school, which is my first cue to get out of what I'm doing. If the market were better, I'd have an attorney job lined up already. It's not, so I don't, but I expect that to change.

After undergrad, I learned that the first few years are fun and somewhat carefree, but after that the responsibility starts to mount. Of course, I'm doing this so that I might retire earlier, not so that I can buy more things -- after a few years out of college, you'll be ready for retirement just like I am!

I don't know a single soul that billed 50 hours during law school or during bar prep...I think it's a terrible idea, especially during prep. You are going to want to spend any little free time you have relaxing.

Neither do I, and frankly, neither does my school -- at least not for Virginia bar exam test takers.

I'll work something out, considering Barbri is 4 hours a day. But with the market the way it is, quitting and hoping for the best isn't a great option.

But I've been billing between 40 and 50 for all 4 years of school now. It hasn't been horrible, but you have to streamline everything. I don't expect that most people that go to law school right out of undergrad would consider it an option, but there are many folks like myself who went in with a couple of years of experience that have handled it.

For some, the biggest hardship is coming now, where their biglaw offers got deferred after they quit their jobs. It's no joke, most evening students have real obligations -- families, mortgage, more than just student loans to pay off. I feel for them right now.

That's just life right now, though. I'm hoping to land an in-house counsel position, but I have to pass the bar first.

I don't understand. Your firm won't give you time off for bar prep??? Yeah, Barbri is only 4 hours a day, but then you have to spend ATLEAST 6 hours on your own reviewing the material.

In the 10 week program, my schedule was:

Week 1-3: 8:00am - 6:30 pm (30 min lunch, 2 15 minute breaks)
Week 4-6: 8:00 am - 8:00 pm (30 min lunch, 2 15 minute breaks)
Week 6-9: 8:00 am - 9:30 pm (30 min lunch, 4 15 minute breaks)
Week 10 (week before exam): 10 am - 5 pm (1 15 minute break)

That doesn't leave much time for anything else...

 

[sjwaste]

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug

I don't understand. Your firm won't give you time off for bar prep??? Yeah, Barbri is only 4 hours a day, but then you have to spend ATLEAST 6 hours on your own reviewing the material.

In the 10 week program, my schedule was:

Week 1-3: 8:00am - 6:30 pm (30 min lunch, 2 15 minute breaks)
Week 4-6: 8:00 am - 8:00 pm (30 min lunch, 2 15 minute breaks)
Week 6-9: 8:00 am - 9:30 pm (30 min lunch, 4 15 minute breaks)
Week 10 (week before exam): 10 am - 5 pm (1 15 minute break)

That doesn't leave much time for anything else...

I don't work for a law firm, I work for a consulting firm. They don't have a ton of interest in my degree, at least, not as much as I do.

I obviously won't be devoting 10 hours a day for 10 weeks to study. What is more likely is that I will proportionally allocate time over the course of 5 hrs a day, with some 3 and 4 day weekends taken to cover additional material.

If it gets to be too much, I will undoubtedly roll the dice and quit, as I'm not taking the bar twice. I will pass on the first time, no matter what I have to do. But I can't take half of may, then all of june and july off. I'm finding a middle ground there.

In addition, I've already spent a good amount of time on substantive review and essay technique. I can write a VA essay cold, it's just a matter of knowing the material now.

I can't put the mortgage entirely on my fiancee, that isn't fair to her. And while we have enough "disposable savings" to get us through a few months if I wanted to take that to study, the uncertainty of being able to find a job after the bar is what is stopping me from taking that risk.

Trust me man, I know it sounds insane, but these are the times. I'm no basement-dweller. I'm somewhere around top quarter in my class, and can cram entirely the day of an exam to walk in and get an A, A- at worst. I know I have to find a way to devote significant time to the bar and give the exam its due. Full time isn't an option, though, unless you know of a DC or VA firm or company that wants to hire pending bar!

 

[Alyx]

I've never had a really hard time on finals week. Sadly mine are 5 weeks out though.

 

[imported_Imp]

Ah, I had hell weeks up until the second semester of my final year. This was mainly due to design projects during third and fourth year, especially with group projects.

I finally grew a brain and figured out how to schedule, and spread out work by my final semester luckily. The last week felt like any week, it was actually incredibly relaxed. By the final days of the week, everything was done, and showing up to class was just for keeping up appearances.

 

[Razgriz]

3 weeks left, finals start next week and the work is piling on this week.

 

[Jeff7]

Checking in - semi-hell week, I guess.

FE exam is on Saturday. They want everyone there at 7:15am. I expect to have none other than Hitler himself proctoring the exam. No one else would make anyone be anywhere at 7:15am on a Saturday.
And this week, I need to be prepping, with my group, for our senior project presentation, to be given to faculty next week on Monday. I've also been given a deadline at my internship to come up with an idea for a project by Wednesday, on which I have little expertise. This job is one Kobayashi Maru after another.

The week after that, I need to be on campus before 8am for the senior project presentation to our sponsor company's representatives.


I am very much looking forward to college being done, at least for now. I'm tired of year after year of bringing in a negative income. Soon begins the long process of earning back all that debt plus the opportunity cost money. Though some of those earnings are the non-tangibles, such as having a job that isn't retail or manual labor, quite possibly working at a company with a very pleasant atmosphere, plus fully-paid health insurance.

 

[BoomerD]

Final 1-Management Information Systems-DONE 100% (this prof is easy...all tests on line...material either from the text and in previous tests, or from lecture, and he tells you,"This will be on your test-write it down!"

 

[jhayx7]

Check.

Work full time as Network Engineer and also take full time load at University of Alabama. Business major with minor in CS. Luckily for me, UA has dead week before finals so next week will be spent studying for finals. Summer semester is not looking good. Finance, Marketing and Business Strategy. Although I am finished with my minor and elective course work :-D

The light at the end of the tunnel is soooo close *reach*

AHHH F&^$% A TRAIN!

 

[Leros]

Finished most of my assignments and my lab.

Now I just have two exams and an oral presentation. Survivable.

 

[RESmonkey]

I can't register classes for next semester until tomorrow night or Friday, even though my priority time was yesterday at 1PM. Apparently I have a hold on my account and it's because I haven't seen a "mentor."

If only they'd stop sending important emails in the form of spam/departmental "newsletters"

 

[alyarb]

hah, sounds like UCF to me.