ATOT gun peeps, recommend me a .22 LR handgun

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JDMnAR1

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If you can't afford real bullets then just get a bb gun at walmart. Shooting with a 22 pistol is all but pointless. It's too weak for reliable self defense. You cannot hunt with a 22 pistol for the same reason...and being a good shot with a 22 means nothing if you're not used to the recoil of a MAN'S weapon like a 45 or 10mm...so it's not like you can practice with a 22 to improve your skills with a non-pussified weapon.

Oh, this post is so full of fail it isn't even funny. Nowhere in the OP does he mention self defense or hunting, so why even go there? But since you went there - a .22 is perfectly suited for small game (such as rabbits and squirrels) and my Buckmark has killed quite a few over the years. Your inability to improve skills with a .22 comment is equally silly, as the mechanics of the shot (stuff like grip, aiming, trigger control, etc) are (or should be, assuming similar ergonomics) fairly consistent across platforms. The whole "MAN'S weapon/non-pussified weapon" crap is just laughable, and makes it sound like you might be trying to compensate for something. I guess the fact that I enjoy the heck out of shooting my Buckmark and might put several hundred rounds through it in a day of shooting must make me a pussy...or does the .45 I carry daily make up for that?
 

Slapstick

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If you can't afford real bullets then just get a bb gun at walmart. Shooting with a 22 pistol is all but pointless. It's too weak for reliable self defense. You cannot hunt with a 22 pistol for the same reason...and being a good shot with a 22 means nothing if you're not used to the recoil of a MAN'S weapon like a 45 or 10mm...so it's not like you can practice with a 22 to improve your skills with a non-pussified weapon.

Don't shoot much do you? Shooting a .22 is a lot of fun and does improve your skills but you would know that if you actually had any range time in.

Personally I like my Ruger Mark II, shot thousands of rounds through it and it's still just as fun and accurate as the day I bought it, (I don't remember how long I've had it but over 20 -25 years) I'm thinking about picking up a Mark III with the fluted barrel. There a trick to reassembling the Ruger Mark series of pistol. There are quite a few articles and videos on it just search for "Ruger Mark III reassembly" Once you get it down it's a snap to dissemble, clean and put back together.
 
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Oh, this post is so full of fail it isn't even funny. Nowhere in the OP does he mention self defense or hunting, so why even go there? But since you went there - a .22 is perfectly suited for small game (such as rabbits and squirrels) and my Buckmark has killed quite a few over the years. Your inability to improve skills with a .22 comment is equally silly, as the mechanics of the shot (stuff like grip, aiming, trigger control, etc) are (or should be, assuming similar ergonomics) fairly consistent across platforms. The whole "MAN'S weapon/non-pussified weapon" crap is just laughable, and makes it sound like you might be trying to compensate for something. I guess the fact that I enjoy the heck out of shooting my Buckmark and might put several hundred rounds through it in a day of shooting must make me a pussy...or does the .45 I carry daily make up for that?

Yeah, for self-defense I'm going with a 9mm. Either a Springfield XD or Glock - though I didn't really like the way the grip felt in my hands.
Maybe a HK USP if I decide to splurge.
 

EricMartello

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Apr 17, 2003
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Oh, this post is so full of fail it isn't even funny. Nowhere in the OP does he mention self defense or hunting, so why even go there? But since you went there - a .22 is perfectly suited for small game (such as rabbits and squirrels) and my Buckmark has killed quite a few over the years. Your inability to improve skills with a .22 comment is equally silly, as the mechanics of the shot (stuff like grip, aiming, trigger control, etc) are (or should be, assuming similar ergonomics) fairly consistent across platforms. The whole "MAN'S weapon/non-pussified weapon" crap is just laughable, and makes it sound like you might be trying to compensate for something. I guess the fact that I enjoy the heck out of shooting my Buckmark and might put several hundred rounds through it in a day of shooting must make me a pussy...or does the .45 I carry daily make up for that?

LOL we all have a pressing need to fight off those killer squirrels and rabbits...seriosly dude if you need a gun to kill a rabbit you really are a bigger pussy than I thought! You are also a pussy for thinking that a 22 is anything other than a glorified BB gun, and for thinking that carrying a 45 makes up for that.

Don't shoot much do you? Shooting a .22 is a lot of fun and does improve your skills but you would know that if you actually had any range time in.

Personally I like my Ruger Mark II, shot thousands of rounds through it and it's still just as fun and accurate as the day I bought it, (I don't remember how long I've had it but over 20 -25 years) I'm thinking about picking up a Mark III with the fluted barrel. There a trick to reassembling the Ruger Mark series of pistol. There are quite a few articles and videos on it just search for "Ruger Mark III reassembly" Once you get it down it's a snap to dissemble, clean and put back together.

If you don't shoot with the gun you carry you're wasting your time...and if you're carrying a 22 then you're either a retard, a pussy or both. That's really all there is to say. Sure, it's fun and so are BB guns...hence my suggestion to buy a BB gun as you can improve your skills to the same degree with a BB gun as you can with a 22.
 

Slapstick

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LOL we all have a pressing need to fight off those killer squirrels and rabbits...seriosly dude if you need a gun to kill a rabbit you really are a bigger pussy than I thought! You are also a pussy for thinking that a 22 is anything other than a glorified BB gun, and for thinking that carrying a 45 makes up for that.



If you don't shoot with the gun you carry you're wasting your time...and if you're carrying a 22 then you're either a retard, a pussy or both. That's really all there is to say. Sure, it's fun and so are BB guns...hence my suggestion to buy a BB gun as you can improve your skills to the same degree with a BB gun as you can with a 22.

One things for sure, you're an idiot and the type that gives shooters a bad name. I never said I carried a .22 for defense and I never said that I didn't shoot the guns I carry, (notice the plural, what I carry depends on what I'm doing, weather and dress). Given your responses I'd say you have little to no experience with firearms of any type and your advice is worth what it costs, absolutely nothing.
 

EricMartello

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One things for sure, you're an idiot and the type that gives shooters a bad name. I never said I carried a .22 for defense and I never said that I didn't shoot the guns I carry, (notice the plural, what I carry depends on what I'm doing, weather and dress). Given your responses I'd say you have little to no experience with firearms of any type and your advice is worth what it costs, absolutely nothing.

Is that your expert opinion, or is that the almighty squirrel slayer talkin?
 

adairusmc

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Jul 24, 2006
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Sig Sauer Mosquito

Ruger 10-22

one out of 2 aint bad I suppose.

I owned a sig mosquito to be used with a Gemtech outback II suppressor, and it was a shit gun that I will never consider owning again. Finicky with all ammo except CCI mini mags, horrid trigger, and expensive magazines. I foolishly got one to replace my P22 when they came out, and it was one of the worst downgrades I have ever made on anything.

I have since gotten myself a browning buckmark and put a tactical solutions threaded barrel on it, and it is by far the best .22 I have ever shot, with or without the suppressor.

The 10/22 on the other hand, is the pinnacle of .22LR rifles IMO, just based on the quality of accessories and mods you can get for it. I even have one 10/22 that does not have a single ruger part in it, including the receiver.
 

xSauronx

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Jul 14, 2000
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we have a ruger mkII thats a damn decent little pistol, and a buddy of mine had a mkIII that he seemed to like pretty well, but I never fired it.
 

pontifex

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If you can't afford real bullets then just get a bb gun at walmart. Shooting with a 22 pistol is all but pointless. It's too weak for reliable self defense. You cannot hunt with a 22 pistol for the same reason...and being a good shot with a 22 means nothing if you're not used to the recoil of a MAN'S weapon like a 45 or 10mm...so it's not like you can practice with a 22 to improve your skills with a non-pussified weapon.

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Zebo

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Jul 29, 2001
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If you can't afford real bullets then just get a bb gun at walmart. Shooting with a 22 pistol is all but pointless. It's too weak for reliable self defense. You cannot hunt with a 22 pistol for the same reason...and being a good shot with a 22 means nothing if you're not used to the recoil of a MAN'S weapon like a 45 or 10mm...so it's not like you can practice with a 22 to improve your skills with a non-pussified weapon.

LOL Sign a waiver and I guarantee a 22 will kill you dead.
 

pontifex

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Dec 5, 2000
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I have a Browning Buckmark, a Ruger Single Six, and a .22 conversion kit for my 1911.

.22 is the most popular round in the US, if not the entire world.
 

EricMartello

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LOL Sign a waiver and I guarantee a 22 will kill you dead.

So can a well-placed shot with a BB gun...were you going to follow that up with a point, or did you think you were being witty and just want to leave it at that?

The thing you brokeback mountain rangers don't seem to realize is that in a situation where you would NEED a gun to defend yourself, STOPPING POWER matters and that's something you just don't have with a 22.

You can really tell who DOESN'T know shit about guns because they make long posts full of shit that "seems to make sense" but in reality is complete crap. That's why you got some moron talking about shooting squirrels and bunnies, followed by another who thinks that I somewhere said a 22 is incapable of dealing a lethal wound.

Just because you own a gun does not make you a "gun expert" nor should you be dishing out bad advice on public forums. The reality is that 99% of you spend 99% of your time in a basement, so your need for having a gun is nil and it's debatable whether your life is one worth preserving.

Go troll some other thread.
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TheVrolok

Lifer
Dec 11, 2000
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So can a well-placed shot with a BB gun...were you going to follow that up with a point, or did you think you were being witty and just want to leave it at that?

The thing you brokeback mountain rangers don't seem to realize is that in a situation where you would NEED a gun to defend yourself, STOPPING POWER matters and that's something you just don't have with a 22.

You can really tell who DOESN'T know shit about guns because they make long posts full of shit that "seems to make sense" but in reality is complete crap. That's why you got some moron talking about shooting squirrels and bunnies, followed by another who thinks that I somewhere said a 22 is incapable of dealing a lethal wound.

Just because you own a gun does not make you a "gun expert" nor should you be dishing out bad advice on public forums. The reality is that 99% of you spend 99% of your time in a basement, so your need for having a gun is nil and it's debatable whether your life is one worth preserving.

I cannot believe how much fail you're spewing into this thread. No one here was even claiming a 22 is a truly viable self-defense weapon.
 

cressida

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Sep 10, 2000
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Single six or bearcat would be my choice. Cheap, reliable, and will shoot almost any ammo.
 

Kabob

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I hate the Walther P22. My buddy has one, very finnicky with ammo choices and disassembly/reassembly is an absolute bear.

I'm not a huge Ruger fan but I do really like the MK II (or whatever it is). Browning Buckmark is pretty nice as well.

Revolvers are also alot of fun but the only .22 model I've fired was an old H&R break action.
 

daishi5

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Cheap ammo wouldn't fire in the Walther. White box federal/ remington didn't have enough power to push the slide back. CCI was fine.

I've got a Ruger mark 2 if bought in a local trade magazine for $200. I like it.

Same problem here, I got the Walther as a cheap plinker, and several types of cheap ammo have given me fits.
 

cardiac

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Oct 9, 1999
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If you can't afford real bullets then just get a bb gun at walmart. Shooting with a 22 pistol is all but pointless. It's too weak for reliable self defense. You cannot hunt with a 22 pistol for the same reason...and being a good shot with a 22 means nothing if you're not used to the recoil of a MAN'S weapon like a 45 or 10mm...so it's not like you can practice with a 22 to improve your skills with a non-pussified weapon.

What you are saying then is that I should not shoot any of the other 13 handguns that I own other than the Para-Ordnance P-12 that I carry? (About 3600 rounds through it).

There are a couple that I don't fire any more, such as a 4" Colt Python with a 5 digit serial number and also a very low numbered Browning Challenger. However, I have a ball shooting all the others. They can all keep your skills honed, from my Ruger Single Six (.22) all the way up to the TDE AutoMag in .44 Mag. Both of my sons started with pellet guns, and when they showed adequate skills and safe handling, then they moved up to a .22.

OP, someone mentioned going to a range and trying a few different ones. This is the best advise you can get. No matter what kind of gun you are looking for. I had a Sig 229 (.40) that I did not like at all. Same goes for any model of Glock. This is my personal preference. They both make great handguns, but I had bad experiences with both. Another of my favorites (And sometimes my carry weapon of choice), is a Ruger P-85. Blue frame with a stainless slide and Trijicon night sights. Accurate as can be and reliable as hell. But it is kind of heavy to carry all the time, as is my P-12.

Try different ones out and go from there....

Bob
 
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one out of 2 aint bad I suppose.

I owned a sig mosquito to be used with a Gemtech outback II suppressor, and it was a shit gun that I will never consider owning again. Finicky with all ammo except CCI mini mags, horrid trigger, and expensive magazines. I foolishly got one to replace my P22 when they came out, and it was one of the worst downgrades I have ever made on anything.

I have since gotten myself a browning buckmark and put a tactical solutions threaded barrel on it, and it is by far the best .22 I have ever shot, with or without the suppressor.

The 10/22 on the other hand, is the pinnacle of .22LR rifles IMO, just based on the quality of accessories and mods you can get for it. I even have one 10/22 that does not have a single ruger part in it, including the receiver.

yeah, was researching sig mosquito and a lot of people posting very negative experiences.
 

davmat787

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Since we are on the subject of .22 handguns, anyone have an opinion on the new KelTec PMR30? It shoots .22 WMR rather than LR, but damn if it does not look like it would be a fun plinker or trail gun. It holds 30 rounds by design, and can be had for around $300.00. Not a fan of KelTec personally, but for a cheap handgun that shoots .22 WMR and is designed for 30 rounds, I am having a hard time resisting.


 
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