ATOT... I humbly ask for your advice.

[SunnyD]

Originally posted by: E equals MC2

Originally posted by: kranky
This is not as complicated as you are making it out to be.

- Take the promotion. Absolutely. There is NO reason to delay, haggle, or anything else. Take it.

- If the other company makes you an offer afterwards, and you like it, then take the new job. Tell your boss that while you feel awkward leaving so soon after you've been promoted, you received an offer for a better position elsewhere and you're taking it.

It's really that simple.

On a side note, constant travel can really wear you down. It's fun for a little while, but it gets old fast. It may not be as appealing as you might think.

A sound advice. But you know you just have to get it out of your system no matter what others tell you? That's me with traveling.

Keep in mind that if you take the promotion then come up with an offer from B... since you're already in the position if A likes you enough they may counter. (I know, you said they're cheap)

But seriously - this is the world today. You look out for your own best interests. You have everything to gain and nothing to lose.

 

[compman25]

Originally posted by: E equals MC2

Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life
Accept the promotion and go for the interview at the new company and see what happens. I dont understand why people suggest waiting on accepting the promotion.

Because if I accept position A then leave for B, then I'm burning the bridge. My boss loves me and he told me he'll be writing a personal recommendation for my promotion....

I mean that's pretty nice of him. I know it's biz is biz at the end of the day, but I think that's pretty bastardly.

How are you burning the bridge anymore than if you don't accept the promotion and then take job B? Either way you would be leaving job A. And if you're getting the promotion, why does your boss still need to write a personal recommendation? If you've been offered the promotion all you need to do is accept it, so why the personal recommendation after the fact?

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: E equals MC2

Originally posted by: kranky
This is not as complicated as you are making it out to be.

- Take the promotion. Absolutely. There is NO reason to delay, haggle, or anything else. Take it.

- If the other company makes you an offer afterwards, and you like it, then take the new job. Tell your boss that while you feel awkward leaving so soon after you've been promoted, you received an offer for a better position elsewhere and you're taking it.

It's really that simple.

On a side note, constant travel can really wear you down. It's fun for a little while, but it gets old fast. It may not be as appealing as you might think.

A sound advice. But you know you just have to get it out of your system no matter what others tell you? That's me with traveling.

Have you ever traveled for work? Most people hate it. It sucks. You live out of airports and hotels. You are by yourself most of the time. Your relationship with friends will suck. If you have a gf, she will probably hate it. Yea sure it's cool once in a while to go out of town and eat and drink on company dime but it gets old really fast. It only works if you travel with a group of coworkers that you are friends with.

 

[E equals MC2]

Originally posted by: compman25

Originally posted by: E equals MC2

Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life
Accept the promotion and go for the interview at the new company and see what happens. I dont understand why people suggest waiting on accepting the promotion.

Because if I accept position A then leave for B, then I'm burning the bridge. My boss loves me and he told me he'll be writing a personal recommendation for my promotion....

I mean that's pretty nice of him. I know it's biz is biz at the end of the day, but I think that's pretty bastardly.

How are you burning the bridge anymore than if you don't accept the promotion and then take job B? Either way you would be leaving job A. And if you're getting the promotion, why does your boss still need to write a personal recommendation? If you've been offered the promotion all you need to do is accept it, so why the personal recommendation after the fact?

it's part of the process where they go through the formality on the surface, but 'internal politics-wise' my boss tells me I pretty much 100% got it unless I show up drunk and piss on everyone.

 

[E equals MC2]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: E equals MC2

Originally posted by: kranky
This is not as complicated as you are making it out to be.

- Take the promotion. Absolutely. There is NO reason to delay, haggle, or anything else. Take it.

- If the other company makes you an offer afterwards, and you like it, then take the new job. Tell your boss that while you feel awkward leaving so soon after you've been promoted, you received an offer for a better position elsewhere and you're taking it.

It's really that simple.

On a side note, constant travel can really wear you down. It's fun for a little while, but it gets old fast. It may not be as appealing as you might think.

A sound advice. But you know you just have to get it out of your system no matter what others tell you? That's me with traveling.

Have you ever traveled for work? Most people hate it. It sucks. You live out of airports and hotels. You are by yourself most of the time. Your relationship with friends will suck. If you have a gf, she will probably hate it. Yea sure it's cool once in a while to go out of town and eat and drink on company dime but it gets old really fast. It only works if you travel with a group of coworkers that you are friends with.

Absolutely, and I just have to get it out of my system while I'm young (26). What am I gonna do? Never do it and always wonder for rest of my life? Life is all about new experiences and discovery.

I'd kill myself if I got stuck in the cube all day AGAIN doing exact same shit day after day.

 

[Sphexi]

The reality is, there's almost zero chance you'll end up back at Company A if you leave for another place now. It just doesn't happen, there's always somewhere else you can go instead. As far as references go, if your boss loves you then he'll understand you're doing what makes you happy and what's best for you.

At my old job I kept trying to get a better position, and they kept saying they'd give it to me, except that I needed to get someone to replace me in my current position. I personally went out and hunted down a replacement, got him hired, trained, then went back and asked for the new position, they pushed back on it again. At that point I went out and found a new company, interviewed, got hired, and got a start date about a month in the future. I went back to my current company, gave my 2 weeks notice, and told them why. The HR people who had been screwing with me the whole time hummed and hawed about it, but my boss and his boss were totally fine, and we still go out from time to time for beers and to watch PPV UFC stuff at a local bar.

Bottom line, do what you need to do, don't worry about what others think. If they were in your shoes you can be damned sure they wouldn't be thinking twice about it.

 

[thepd7]

Originally posted by: Deeko
4. Tell your boss you need to think about it (in the meantime pursue B). If you don't get B, accept promotion at A. If you get B, take B

yes.

Tell B about the situation as well, not like an ass saying "I have other offers give me more" but to let them know your situation is urgent.

I did this when I had two companies I was looking at, I extended A and told B about the situation. I got an offer from B asap and took it.

 

[The Boston Dangler]

this is like a game show!

THREE!!!! THREEEEEEE!! PICK NUMBER THREE, DUMMY!!!

 

[TXHokie]

I was in a similar situation 5 months ago and chose #3. I tried not to burn the bridge but it got blown up with dynamite by the time it was done - there's no going back there.

 

[torpid]

Considering some of your previous threads and the negativity people have towards you here, I'd say you should take A. Company A already knows you well. Company B might react to you the same way many ATOTers do. If you are a lot less "controversial" in person then still take A and then later take B if it is attractive. Faced with a similar situation and knowing that I'm kind of quirky myself, I would probably stick with A unless I was really sick of the PEOPLE (not the job). Coworkers are more important in office happiness than the actual work for me.

 

[Modelworks]

You say your boss loves you.
Does he love you enough that he would understand if you told him you were considering leaving the company ?
If not, then you aren't burning any bridges by looking elsewhere for employment.
If he is not going to understand you want to work elsewhere then he is just looking out for himself and doesn't love you as much as you think.

I've had bosses before that I could sit down with and talk about what I didn't like about my current job and that I had other offers.
They were the ones that understood , listened and were true friends.
Those are ones that you don't want to upset.

 

[E equals MC2]

Originally posted by: torpid
Considering some of your previous threads and the negativity people have towards you here, I'd say you should take A. Company A already knows you well. Company B might react to you the same way many ATOTers do. If you are a lot less "controversial" in person then still take A and then later take B if it is attractive. Faced with a similar situation and knowing that I'm kind of quirky myself, I would probably stick with A unless I was really sick of the PEOPLE (not the job). Coworkers are more important in office happiness than the actual work for me.

hahahahaahahh you take ATOT seriously and you think I act like a fvcking retard in person as I do in the forums?

Thanks for the laugh.

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: E equals MC2
hahahahaahahh you take ATOT seriously and you think I act like a fvcking retard in person as I do in the forums?

Thanks for the laugh.

Ah, I see. So in other words you come onto ATOT and intentionally act like an ass in order to annoy the rest of us. Good to know. Based on this and the fact that you posted this thread here on ATOT, my advice is to stop posting here.

 

[MyThirdEye]

you should have fun with your work. go with job B, you'll get to travel and experience life.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Talk to B, tell them you would like the position but you have received a competing offer and are considering it. Tell them you would prefer work for them. See what their response is.

If it were me, I would quit A immediately and hope B worked out. But I'm impulsive that way. Life is too short to waste it being miserable in a job you hate.

 

[E equals MC2]

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: E equals MC2
hahahahaahahh you take ATOT seriously and you think I act like a fvcking retard in person as I do in the forums?

Thanks for the laugh.

Ah, I see. So in other words you come onto ATOT and intentionally act like an ass in order to annoy the rest of us. Good to know. Based on this and the fact that you posted this thread here on ATOT, my advice is to stop posting here.

Where is this 'rest of us' you speak of? I am slightly offended by that. Who the hell do you think you are?

I appreciate the community and I joke and neff just like everyone else here. Just because you personally find me as an annoyance, that doesn't mean you're suddenly 'the everyone'. And you presumptuously offer an ?advice? based on my personality in the forums? Gimme a break. :roll:

You know I meant well. Relax. Have a beer. :beer:

 

[jjones]

Take the promotion, pursue the job at company B. Not a difficult decision in my opinion.

 

[qaa541]

I would go with option 3. It may still take some time and there MAY not be an offer for some unknown reason (like the sudden cutbacks due to the economy). At least this way you would have a secure promotion and all the related benefits.

At least for me, I would have to say if you are leaving a company there is little chance I would ever go back so I really dont care about burning bridges. I also would not consider moving jobs right after a promotion to be "burning bridges" either, just bad timing.

I would never tell an current employer that I am interviewing because of the horror stories I have heard where you are practically fired that same day because they dont want you taking secrets from the company. You should play the safe hand and not mention anything until you have an offer in writing and not only that, the offer has to be good enough to consider leaving before mentioning anything.

 

[freegeeks]

you only have to remember 1 thing nowadays. Companies only look for their best interest, I suggest you do the same. Your company will not hesitate to throw you on the streets if they think they need to

 

[RichUK]

You want to go into project management and you can?t even make a decision from a basic risk analysis.

There are no morals in project management, son.

What?s your current position?

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: E equals MC2
Where is this 'rest of us' you speak of? I am slightly offended by that. Who the hell do you think you are?

I appreciate the community and I joke and neff just like everyone else here. Just because you personally find me as an annoyance, that doesn't mean you're suddenly 'the everyone'. And you presumptuously offer an ?advice? based on my personality in the forums? Gimme a break. :roll:

You know I meant well. Relax. Have a beer. :beer:

You project a personality on ATOT. If you are unwilling to live with the consequences then stop doing it. I base advice to you here on your behavior here, just as I would do to someone in person. Given that, I say stick with A since they don't mind your unusual personality.

And the "rest of us" are the large number of people who respond in any one of your belligerent and/or nonsensical threads. Search for your own posts and you'll see what I mean.

 

[E equals MC2]

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: E equals MC2
Where is this 'rest of us' you speak of? I am slightly offended by that. Who the hell do you think you are?

I appreciate the community and I joke and neff just like everyone else here. Just because you personally find me as an annoyance, that doesn't mean you're suddenly 'the everyone'. And you presumptuously offer an ?advice? based on my personality in the forums? Gimme a break. :roll:

You know I meant well. Relax. Have a beer. :beer:

You project a personality on ATOT. If you are unwilling to live with the consequences then stop doing it. I base advice to you here on your behavior here, just as I would do to someone in person. Given that, I say stick with A since they don't mind your unusual personality.

And the "rest of us" are the large number of people who respond in any one of your belligerent and/or nonsensical threads. Search for your own posts and you'll see what I mean.

Aw, you're mad? I didn't know you took my posts so personally all this time. I had no idea I had this kind of effect on you. I'll be nice. Sorry. :heart:

 

[rasczak]

Originally posted by: E equals MC2
I'll cut it straight to the point.

- I'm sick of my job (Company A), but I excel at it. Was promoted once already. 2.5 yrs total here.

- Really wanted the next promotion but couldn't get it after 3 tries. Disappointed, I started to look else where.

- So I found Company B. Passed the phone interview, they want to see me coming Tuesday.

- As luck would have it, my boss pulls me inside just an hour ago and tells me I'm gonna get my long-waited promotion here (Company A).

Problem:
The promotion at Company A is no longer as attractive to me, but is guaranteed. It's same cube, different work, slightly higher pay.

The job at Company B is very attractive to me. You get to travel 60-80% which is what I've always wanted. It'll also offer a fresh change of scene which is what I've always wanted. But as you know, there's no offer. . I don't know how much $$ offers, but I suspect it's higher than Company A.

-My promoted title will be Assistant Project Manager at Company A, I will be full blown Project Manager in Company B.

-I would definitely take B over A if both were offered. As you can see the dilemma is that B is not certain.

Action Choices:
1. Stick with A, do a year or so then get out. It's the safest way and the most guaranteed way. But this also means I'll always wonder about the greener grass on the other side, traveling and etc.

2. Decline A and see how B works out. If I end up with B, then all's GREAT! But if B doesn't accept me. I'm fvcked and I miss the one-time chance of a promotion that pretty much fell on my lap.

3. Accept A, but still pursue B. If I get the promotion and B offers me their job, I'll be a dick and burning a bridge by promptly leaving the company right after the promotion.... but then if I don't get B, I still safely got A and no one will ever know about B. This is the most selfish choice and will burn some bridges, especially my boss who loves me. But that is of course only if I get B.

Which action should I take? Or do you have an action 4?

Please help. I don't even have appetite right now... I'll be happy to answer any questions.

Stick with 3. You won't be burning any bridges since the job you would be leaving for is a higher title. Anyone with half a brain can understand that, especially a boss who loves you. They will be butt hurt for a while, but if their as good a boss as you think, then they will be understanding.

 

[AnitaPeterson]

Originally posted by: E equals MC2

Originally posted by: kranky
This is not as complicated as you are making it out to be.

- Take the promotion. Absolutely. There is NO reason to delay, haggle, or anything else. Take it.

- If the other company makes you an offer afterwards, and you like it, then take the new job. Tell your boss that while you feel awkward leaving so soon after you've been promoted, you received an offer for a better position elsewhere and you're taking it.

It's really that simple.

On a side note, constant travel can really wear you down. It's fun for a little while, but it gets old fast. It may not be as appealing as you might think.

A sound advice. But you know you just have to get it out of your system no matter what others tell you? That's me with traveling.

Then take this advice.

look at the bright side of things: you said it yourself that A people are cheapskates and there's a big competition over promotions. Even if you take the promotion, but leave the post after a couple of weeks, nobody's going to cry - you're leaving the place empty for someone else to get promoted!

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: E equals MC2

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: E equals MC2
Where is this 'rest of us' you speak of? I am slightly offended by that. Who the hell do you think you are?

I appreciate the community and I joke and neff just like everyone else here. Just because you personally find me as an annoyance, that doesn't mean you're suddenly 'the everyone'. And you presumptuously offer an ?advice? based on my personality in the forums? Gimme a break. :roll:

You know I meant well. Relax. Have a beer. :beer:

You project a personality on ATOT. If you are unwilling to live with the consequences then stop doing it. I base advice to you here on your behavior here, just as I would do to someone in person. Given that, I say stick with A since they don't mind your unusual personality.

And the "rest of us" are the large number of people who respond in any one of your belligerent and/or nonsensical threads. Search for your own posts and you'll see what I mean.

Aw, you're mad? I didn't know you took my posts so personally all this time. I had no idea I had this kind of effect on you. I'll be nice. Sorry. :heart:

I'm not mad; I'm offering you advice. The advice is to stay with the company that knows your personality unless you don't like the people. The advice is partially based on your personality here, but also on experience working at jobs where the people suck.