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Kaido

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I'm trying to get over my hatred of cooking, so I need to build up a set of basic tools. I don't have enough room in my apartment (let alone kitchen) for all of Alton Brown's basic recommendations.

Ask away! iirc, we have a few professional chefs around here. Personally, I love kitchen gadgets & good hardware. I really only dived into cooking about ten years ago & have been building up my inventory ever since. Over time, the quantity of items I own have pared down quite a bit as I've found out what works & what is junk. Some things have been huge consolidation tools, like the Instant Pot, which can do so many things in one box. What I've learned is that you don't need an awful lot of equipment, you just need the right tools. I could easily live in an RV with what I've cut my kitchen tool inventory down to (actually, that would probably be a size upgrade from my current kitchen, lol).

Thanks for the recommendations. I was raised by my grandparents in a little house in the woods and I remember my grandmother getting a new cast iron skillet. Her ritual for seasoning it was insane...

If you're serious about it, then refrigerated, cold-pressed, unrefined, organic flaxseed oil is the way to go:

http://sherylcanter.com/wordpress/2010/01/a-science-based-technique-for-seasoning-cast-iron/

Again, if you're really serious about cast-iron cooking, that's the best method I've come across. That's a minimum of an 18-hour process (and the oil isn't cheap!), so it depends on how good of a coating you want. I've used a variety of methods & am still trying stuff out, so I don't have a definitive answer myself yet. I recently tried my buddy's trick with fairly good results...coat in shortening (Crisco) & bake once in the oven, haha.

But yeah, cast iron gear is pretty awesome. You can get a solid 10" Lodge skillet for under $20 these days if you look around. It's one of those "buy it for life" things. Doesn't matter how bad you wreck the pan, you can always resurrect it with a little TLC. I use mine for searing sous vide projects on a weekly basis at minimum, and lately I've been doing a lot of baking with it (stuff like skillet cookie pies, which are to die for). For me, getting into cooking was exactly like getting bit by the computer bug...once you get past the "I can't cook & don't know how" idea (same with computers) & start figuring stuff out, it really changes the game & changes how you look at food & cooking, because it becomes a process of researching online on sites like Pinterest, trying recipes out, figuring out what you personally like, mastering new tools, etc. Not much different than modding a computer & overclocking a processor...you kind of get sucked into the process & have fun with it. And there are more recipes on the planet than there are meals left to eat before you depart this realm, so it's not like you'll ever get bored with it. I kind of feel like I've hit a plateau with building computers & stuff because the power has kind of caught up & stabilized in the desktop world, whereas there's always something new to try with cooking!
 

ponyo

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Most of my kitchen plates, pans, cups, utensils, etc are all second hand free items I received from various people. So I don't have matching set of anything since most of the stuff was free stuff people were going to throw away. But I don't care about aesthetics as long as it's functional. So you don't have to spend lot of money. You only need couple pots and pans. Kitchen appliances are where things can get little crazy and I buy new.
 

MrSquished

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Waste of money but it's pretty.
I've used some togiharu knives before that were quite nice but not as pretty. They were good workers in the kitchen. I figured an extra 20 bucks or so for some looks too wasn't so bad

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MrSquished

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This was the original plan. Korin Inox steel. I was not too impressed with the dalstrong stuff. Got their paring knife and it flunked the tomatoes test :shrug:



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gorcorps

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You can pay triple the price for an All-Clad, but I like this OXO even better:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PCI79VS/

I've really cut down on my non-appliance kitchen tools over the years. I own three primary pans:

1. The stainless OXO above
2. A cast-iron skillet (recently got a lightweight Field Skillet & it is amazing)
3. A T-fal non-stick skillet

I also have two primary knives: a Dalstrong 6" & 9.5" (both Shogun VG-10 series). Incredible sharpness for a fraction of the cost of what knives of equal sharpness go for. I've had one or two sets of decent knives in the past, but nothing of this caliber. tbh, I had no idea what having truly "sharp" knives meant, or how much they benefit you in the kitchen in so many ways...you can actually cut stuff EASILY, and they are just a joy to work with. Growing up, we always had crappy knives, and I never knew any better. Even things like making sandwiches was a pain, no joke. Cutting anything was work. I just had no idea. Good tools are brilliant!

So two knives & three pans. Outside of my Instant Pot & Anova, that's pretty much all I use for daily kitchen hardware. I have a few other odds & ends (Zyliss spreader, a cheap curved/serrated bread knife, etc.), but when you get really good tools, it's amazing how little you need to get by with.

I have both an all-clad and OXO stainless pan, and I agree the oxo is at least as good if not better (the handle on the all-clads aren't great IMO).

I love the way the pans heat up, but honestly I'm not a fan of stainless as a cooking surface overall. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong, but it's a nightmare to clean and isn't seasoning the way people explain it. I've yet to cook anything that didn't get a little bit stuck to the pan, regardless of amount of oil used. If I were to do it over, I'd find get some non-stick tri-ply pans so I could have the best of both worlds.
 

Carson Dyle

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I've really cut down on my non-appliance kitchen tools over the years.
I've gone exactly the opposite direction. I've gotten rid of virtually every gadgety space-wasting appliance in my house. I have a toaster that I dug out of a closet last week and had to wipe off a thick layer of dust before using it.

I have both an all-clad and OXO stainless pan, and I agree the oxo is at least as good if not better (the handle on the all-clads aren't great IMO).

I love the way the pans heat up, but honestly I'm not a fan of stainless as a cooking surface overall. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong, but it's a nightmare to clean and isn't seasoning the way people explain it.
Ummm.... How do you expect stainless steel to "season"?? The more I cook, the more I've learned that I can do just about anything I like with stainless skillets. I long ago tossed out all the non-stick skillets that I had.

I've yet to cook anything that didn't get a little bit stuck to the pan, regardless of amount of oil used. If I were to do it over, I'd find get some non-stick tri-ply pans so I could have the best of both worlds.
It's not only the oil used, correct pan temperature is critical. Two things I've learned is that: pans don't heat up as quickly as you might think, and when they do, they're often hotter than you'd like. These two things are probably tied together, because you may be tempted to use a higher burner temperature to bring a pan to temp more quickly, but when it does, it may be too hot.

I've never found cleaning stainless skillets to be difficult. If something is caked or burnt on, I put a little water in the pan, sit it out of the way for a bit before cleaning. The surface of the stainless should be as smooth as possible, both for keeping things from sticking and for cleaning. Get some stainless cleaner such as Bar Keepers Friend and periodically clean (polish) the pan.
 

Kaido

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I have both an all-clad and OXO stainless pan, and I agree the oxo is at least as good if not better (the handle on the all-clads aren't great IMO).

I love the way the pans heat up, but honestly I'm not a fan of stainless as a cooking surface overall. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong, but it's a nightmare to clean and isn't seasoning the way people explain it. I've yet to cook anything that didn't get a little bit stuck to the pan, regardless of amount of oil used. If I were to do it over, I'd find get some non-stick tri-ply pans so I could have the best of both worlds.

Agree on all points. I wish there was an All-Clad base with an OXO handle. I use Barkeeper's Friend to clean it. Whereas my Instant Pot stainless bowl cleans out really well, the OXO has had some discoloration no matter how much I scrub it. But the performance is still pretty good, especially for the price. I primarily use either my T-fal non-stick pan or my cast-iron pan; the OXO is mostly used for stuff like sauces & whatnot. fwiw the OXO does really well at melting chocolate. I still haven't bought a double boiler yet.
 

Kaido

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I've gone exactly the opposite direction. I've gotten rid of virtually every gadgety space-wasting appliance in my house. I have a toaster that I dug out of a closet last week and had to wipe off a thick layer of dust before using it.

At some point, I'll finish updating the appliance thread with the details of my current inventory. I am very much the opposite of Alton Brown in that I value uni-taskers, provided they do a good job for me. Like, I used to have a hardboiled egg maker...it was a domed model with little needles in it (to prevent the eggs from exploding) & a specifically-sized water-measurement cup. Perfect eggs every time. Yeah, I could do it in a pot, but this came out perfect every time. But then the Instant Pot came along & does an equal job, so I got rid of the hardboiled egg maker to reduce redundancy.

Over the years, I've come to value kitchen tools that (1) give me good results, and (2) do so in a convenient way, especially if (3) they can do so in a repeatable way, which is why I particularly like using the Instant Pot, Anova, and Traeger...once I get a recipe figured out, I can pretty much rest assured that I won't goof it up in the future when I make it again
 

sdifox

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I like my Calphalon commercial anodised aluminium pans. Still wish I had proper high btu gas range.
 

Chaotic42

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I like my Calphalon commercial anodised aluminium pans. Still wish I had proper high btu gas range.
I've never cooked with gas, but I remember us having it as a kid. I guess apartment complexes view it as a liability.
 

BoomerD

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I miss having natural gas for cooking, heating, and water heating. Electricity does the job...but it's not as fast or efficient.

I'm looking at getting a nice nakiri for my wife. I want to spend no more than $100 for it. Among the list that I'm considering are the Mac Professional series Nakiri,(hands down, one of MY favorites) a couple of Shun nakiri's, (the premier is more than $100, but I have a decent coupon that will bring it to just over that) and a couple of the Wustof nakiris. I seriously considered the Tojiro DP line, and they're...OK, but I want one just a bit nicer...in looks and quality. I don't want white or blue steel. They require a bit more care to prevent rust...and for us, stainless steel, while not quite as good, is preferable.
 

sdifox

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I've never cooked with gas, but I remember us having it as a kid. I guess apartment complexes view it as a liability.

I grew up with propane and gas cooking. Even used restaurant sizes gas burner with the gas valve as flame control
 

herm0016

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Agree on all points. I wish there was an All-Clad base with an OXO handle. I use Barkeeper's Friend to clean it. Whereas my Instant Pot stainless bowl cleans out really well, the OXO has had some discoloration no matter how much I scrub it. But the performance is still pretty good, especially for the price. I primarily use either my T-fal non-stick pan or my cast-iron pan; the OXO is mostly used for stuff like sauces & whatnot. fwiw the OXO does really well at melting chocolate. I still haven't bought a double boiler yet.
There is, demeyer has good, non riveted, cool touch cast handles. Much better than the riveted scoop shape of the all-clad and the pan base is at least as good. We have a couple of them.

Who needs to buy a double boiler? You don't have any metal mixing bowls?
 
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BoomerD

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I ended up ordering a Shun Classic Nakiri. I'm hoping the Shun "D" shaped handle will work well for her arthritic hands.
(It's tough to buy a knife for someone else...handle fit, blade balance, etc will all be different for each person)
 

Chaotic42

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Where do you folks keep your knives? I ordered that standalone chef's knife, but I'm not sure where to store it when it's not in use.
 

MrSquished

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Where do you folks keep your knives? I ordered that standalone chef's knife, but I'm not sure where to store it when it's not in use.

Right now I use plastic knife guards and/or a knife roll. The new condo I'm moving to is going to get a magnetized strip mounted onto the backsplash though.
 

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BoomerD

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My biggest problem with Dalstrong is that it's made in China.


For what it's worth...Williams-Sonoma has some very nice cutlery...and lots of other things on sale at up to 75% off. Listed as Black Friday sale, not sure when it will end. Up to 60% off on Shun.

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