ATOT Kitchen Cutlery Thread

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glenn1

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Managed to snag a set of Shun "Ken Onion" knives when they went on 50% clearance at Williams-Sonoma 3 or 4 years ago. For being "mass produced" knives they're the best ones I've ever used and sharp AF.

 
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MongGrel

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In all honestly, the knife I inherited from my grandmother I use more than anything in the kitchen probably, is one of those German made Messer miracle knife things.



It's still sharp, has a v blade down the axis, and is heavy on the backside.

Have a ceramic chef knife or two, and I usually just grab the Messer if I need anything larger than a paring knife.



Ulu's are nice if you just want to chop something up fast, have a couple of those around. Even a cheap one works well.

 
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Carson Dyle

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Paring Knives

I have probably a half dozen or so, with the three most-used kept in my knife block. The one that I use most of the time is an inexpensive old 3" Chicago Cutlery knife with a fat walnut handle, probably 30 years old or more. I think there are three things that make it the most used in-hand knife:

- The fat, somewhat squarish handle makes it easy to handle.

- The unfinished walnut handle is easier to grip than any other knives I own, even soaking wet. Great for trimming fruits and vegetables that you're rinsing under water.

- The blade edge is flush with the handle. This also makes it easier to use. I have a couple of small paring knives shaped like miniature chef's knives. They're good for very fine dicing, but don't work as well in the hand.

My second most-used paring knife is a thin bladed Henckels Four Star, also about 3". The very thin blade is nice for thin-slicing things like garlic, radishes or hard-boiled eggs.
 
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Chaotic42

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Unless you're a professional chef, I don't think there is any ROI on cutlery. Home chefs just don't use their cutlery to the same degee that thr pros do.

Yeah, I still use some knife I got at Walmart a decade ago. I keep it in a drawer and never hone or sharpen it. Seems to work fine the one night per month I use it.
 
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PJFrylar

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I have Victorinox chefs/paring and Messermeister scissors.

I've also got a Victorinox chef's knife that I picked up for $27 dollars that I use for pretty much everything. It's been doing a pretty good job for me, maybe I should try out a paring knife since that seems to be coming up commonly in the thread. I'm not sure I've actually ever used one lol.
 

MongGrel

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I've also got a Victorinox chef's knife that I picked up for $27 dollars that I use for pretty much everything. It's been doing a pretty good job for me, maybe I should try out a paring knife since that seems to be coming up commonly in the thread. I'm not sure I've actually ever used one lol.

A good paring knife is probably one of the handiest things in the kitchen I'd say.

You do not need a 5 or 6 inch blade for prepping a lot of things.

 

smackababy

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I found this a while back when I started to want to not be a fucking pleb and have decent shit in my kitchen. http://altonbrown.com/10-knife-buying-tips/ Ended up getting a Carter that I absolutely love. After some more research when I wanted more, I found a "local" place that is really good. Hard to get though, as it's all handmade and only so many get made at a time. http://www.buttermilksupply.com/


And, for what it's worth, I really only use 3 knives: a chef, a paring, and a nakiri.
 

PJFrylar

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Suppose it's time for me to go get a paring knife then. The one I have is from an about $10 dollar trash tier knife set I bought right out of high school because money.
 

ponyo

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So what's the sweet spot for a single chef's knife? Where does your ROI start to diminish sharply? $200?

Cheap $10-15 chef knife will suffice. You can get any knife sharp. I like the design, comfort, and balance of Global knives so that's what I use. $10 sharp knife will cut just as well as $200 knife.
 
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jlee

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I've also got a Victorinox chef's knife that I picked up for $27 dollars that I use for pretty much everything. It's been doing a pretty good job for me, maybe I should try out a paring knife since that seems to be coming up commonly in the thread. I'm not sure I've actually ever used one lol.

I'm guessing you don't spend much time cutting/peeling fruit, then

Cheap $10-15 chef knife will suffice. You can get any knife sharp. I like the design, comfort, and balance of Global knives so that's what I use. $10 sharp knife will cut just as well as $200 knife.

For about 10 minutes, sure...your Global will hold an edge far, far longer than a $10 knife.
 
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I've had 4 Wusthof Classics for over 15 years: 7" santoku, 6" boning, 3" paring, 10" bread. The santoku gets the most use by far. The boning and paring pretty much get equal use. The bread knife is used the least but my wife likes it and since she rarely cooks it's still basically like new.
 

Kaido

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I got rid of all of my knives & started a custom set from scratch. For starters, I screwed in a San Jamar Saf-T-Knife station on the side of my cabinets:



It's ugly, but it does the job. I am looking to add more knives in the future, as I have need. Currently I only rely on a few:

1. Dalstrong VG10 9.5" Chef's knife: ($110 when in-stock on Amazon) This is pretty much equivalent to a nice $1,200 sushi knife. It's basically a scalpel. You can shave apple & tomato slices into thin transparent sheets just like they do in those Youtube videos. Has a really good weight to it. All-around amazing knife & absolutely incredible price. I currently do not use any small knives in my cooking because this knife is so sharp & accurate that it's pretty much all I use.

2. Victorinox 9" wavy bread knife:
($22) This knife is beyond awesome for anything bread. Bagels, rolls, bread loaves, you name it. It has a standard serrated edge, but the slight curve is what sets it apart. I saw this being used at an amazing sandwich shop & had to get my own. If you've ever cursed your knife set when trying to saw through a grinder roll or what have you, this is the solution.

3. Zyliss condiment knife: ($5) Spotted this at another great sandwich shop. Absolutely fantastic. If you need edge-to-edge mayo on your sandwich, not a problem. RIP butter knife. I gift these out quite a bit...people just love them. It fills one of those maddening niches in the kitchen perfectly!

4. Kuhn Rikon carbon-steel 4" y-peelers: ($12 for a 3-pack) Okay, this isn't a knife, but it does have a sharp blade, so it counts, right? These do fall apart over time, which is why they give you a three-pack. But man, they are GOOD while they last! If you need to slice the skin off a butternut squash or a cucumber (zoodles ftw), look no further.

That's it. I have a few other knives on my wishlist, but haven't really needed them yet. At some point I'm planning on buying an electric meat grinder & will pick up a boning knife and will see how that compares. I'm the same way with pots & pans lately too. Aside from a couple pots, I only have 3 skillets, no "set":

1. T-fal 12" non-stick skillet with lid: ($30) Really excellent non-stick brand. ONLY use plastic/silicone tools with this & it will last forever. Wash immediately after use by hand with a sponge & it will stay clean forever. This is my go-to for everything.

2. OXO 3.5-quart steel saucepan with lid:
($80) Bought this over higher-end stuff like All-Clad & the like, not just because of the price difference but because of the non-stupid features they add. I have so much OXO stuff it's not even funny. Love that brand! I would probably go with the 4-quart if I were to buy again, it's a little small, although I mostly use it for sauces & stuff so it's not a big deal. This is the first non-non-stick skillet I've ever owned, always had cheap crappy Teflon pans, haha.

3. Lodge 12" cast-iron skillet: ($30, lid sold separately, I don't use a lid on this one myself tho) Actually, my first one was a 10" & I keep that in my kitchen & use the 12" outside for pretty much everything. The 12" fits my 2.5-pound 8" cast-iron press ($13), whereas the 10" does not, so that one gets used for smashburgers & whatnot. I have an 1800-watt Nuwave induction cooktop (single-burner hotplate) that goes up to 575F in 5F increments; I use it both indoors & outdoors (I basically never use my stove's range because it heats up so quickly), especially for finishing sous vide items like steak that tend to smoke a lot.

So pretty much 3 knives & 3 skillets, along with my Instant Pot & Anova. Incredibly flexible system. I like it!
 
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Kaido

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I've also got a Victorinox chef's knife that I picked up for $27 dollars that I use for pretty much everything. It's been doing a pretty good job for me, maybe I should try out a paring knife since that seems to be coming up commonly in the thread. I'm not sure I've actually ever used one lol.

I had one of those Vicorinox chef's knives before I got my Dalstrong. For the money, it's a stellar deal. My only complaint was that it wasn't heavy (I use the knife's heft for helping chop & cut stuff), but that's a very minor complaint for a fantastic sub-$30 knife.
 
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MongGrel

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I really ought to send back the Dalstrong ceramic knife I purchased, it never really was that sharp out of the box.

That and it was built a bit cheap, the end cap even fell off shortly after starting to use it. Was just poorly glued on.

Maybe I received a bum one, got me.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LFUVSNC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I ought to throw out about 95% of the knives sitting in the drawers these days really, most of them are wasted space.

I might try to send it back yet, from some other reviews people have gotten dull ones in the past, can't hurt as I've rarely used the thing really.
 
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d4a2n0k

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I recently gave up on my crappy knives and have been piecing together a Shun Classic set the last few weeks. I opted to buy a block and individual knives so I wasnt buying knives I am never going to use. At this point I have all the basics covered but might add a few more along the line. The 5" nakiri seems to be my most used so far.

9" bread knife
8" chef knife
5" nakiri
4" paring (Amazon sent me two and didnt want it back)



 

MongGrel

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Real Damascus steel has not been made since around 1750, not to deride it.

It a nicely made blade from the looks of it.
 
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MrSquished

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I really ought to send back the Dalstrong ceramic knife I purchased, it never really was that sharp out of the box.

That and it was built a bit cheap, the end cap even fell off shortly after starting to use it. Was just poorly glued on.

Maybe I received a bum one, got me.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LFUVSNC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I ought to throw out about 95% of the knives sitting in the drawers these days really, most of them are wasted space.

I might try to send it back yet, from some other reviews people have gotten dull ones in the past, can't hurt as I've rarely used the thing really.

The reviews looked good 4.5 stars. Ya never know though.

Yah mon. 2-4 knives is all you'll need. One Chef's knife around 8 inches for most people. A utility knife around 5-6". Then maybe a specialty blade or two like a bread knife if you do lots of that sort of thing. A lot of people like a paring knife. For peeling I just use a peeler. I suppose if I was doing fine work like de-veining a shrimp I'd want a paring knife. But that's 4 knives. And you'll use the chef's knife for 80% or more of everything.
 

MongGrel

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If you want to de-vein shrimp I've always has one of the aluminum things myself.

I must have bought the knife before they even had the diamond stone with it, but I have used a carbide sharpening stone on it in the past to little avail.



The caution on my box should have said kinda dull.

Have a few things in the tool chest from over the years.

Enough knife ranting from me
 
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