ATOT Mafia #2 [Live]

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zokudu

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Just a note to be fair here. The two mason members who are not the leader have a primary power role an are masons as a second role.
 

drum

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This doesn't make any sense. If Dixy was a Mason and you were a Mason, there is no way Dixy would have hid behind someone who had lynch votes AND you didn't know if he was a Mason or not. We know that Alive was the Mason leader.


So Either:

1. Alive, Dixy were Masons and Dixy hid behind the only other innocent he knew, USSFletcher, also a Mason. Which means you cannot be a Mason because all the Masons are dead.

2. Dixy wasn't a Mason, thus he was guessing who to hid behind - which means you are lying about Dixy being a Mason and you are not a Mason either.



Either way, you've got some 'splainin to do, because it looks like you've been caught RED HANDED as a liar.

Post edited because that post by zokudu just blew my thought process away Thanks for the clarification Zokudu, I now have no idea about the mason situation. I thought the two masons not the leader we're their only role, I misunderstood.
 
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ALIVE

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Alright big night here.

The town awakes to find:
ussfletcher, the Sensor and DixyCrat, the Hider laying next to each other in the center of the square, Dead.

In a nearby alleyway InfinityOctopus the town Gunsmith, stabbed 7 times and left to die.

One other townsmember reports finding ALIVE, the Mason Leader left in a ditch dead, mason recruitment pamphlet still in hand.

An abrupt argument over the murderer of these innocents ensues. Day 2 has begun.

Day 2


NOTE: I'm still PMing all the info roles out they will be out momentarily.

With 21 left it takes 11 to lynch. Day 2 lasts 48 hours or until a consensus has been reached. People who did not send in a night action be warned inactivity will not be tolerated. I will be monitoring and killing any inactives at the end of the next night.
HAHAHAH thanks you doctor
for not trying to save me

4 townies in one round lol it looks so good for the townies
and since i am a ghost
boooooooooooooo
 
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InverseOfNeo

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You guys are so split you could probably end in a no lynch again and end up getting F'd by the mafia a second night in a row. Good luck but this game is pretty much already decided.

This is exactly what is going to happen.

Why would I tell the same story that Dixy was telling if it got him killed? I am telling it to substantiate waht he said and to rally us to actually lynch someone. I am not telling a lie. I was the third mason and have my main role. Dixy was the hider and a mason member. We made decisions who he hid behind and what I did as my night action. Again, why would I lie about this if it only gets me killed? If I was mafia, I have no purpose to say that someone was telling the truth. I would rather keep quiet if I was mafia and not have a target on my back.

Let's rally and lynch the person who so adamantly rebutted Dixy's facts and is now trying to refute what I am saying.

If you dont believe me, then lynch me and screw the town even more. I can promise you that.

My vote goes for Cuda

Edit:And because I am trying to prove my innocence, I ask the Dr save me because I am sure I will be killed at nighttime. If the Dr does not save me then I can almost guarantee that the Dr is inactive.
 
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InverseOfNeos relevant posts:

Agrees Alive is acting like a moron, but doesnt go so far as to put a vote there - http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=33467288&postcount=66

Threatens to vote Alive (doesnt follow thru) - http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=33467331&postcount=71

Basically a plea to not vote Alive -
http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=33467819&postcount=126

Voicing agreement opinion to not lynch - http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=33468689&postcount=155

Most telling post, I suggest cuda, alive and dixy all die, then neo chimes in very strongly suggesting that would be a bad thing for town. It could mean he is mafia and knows they werent mafia (of his faction), OR it confirms he is the 3rd mason as he claims -
http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=33473876&postcount=228

Counterargument - It was very dangerous for Dixy to hide behind fletcher, UNLESS fletcher is the 3rd mason. BOTH alive and Dixy made posts trying to drum up suspicion on Fletcher, why do that, then hide behind, UNLESS you know he was a townsfolk. If he was mafia then you are dead. Personally I wouldnt hide behind ANYONE first night, unless I knew for sure. If fletcher was the 3rd mason, they are all dead and no one could contradict anyone posing as the 3rd now.

I think we NEED to lynch tonight, but I dont know who yet. If anyone can come up with a scenario where Dixy would hide behind a fletcher and fletcher NOT be a fellow mason, I might change my vote but it seems neo is the sketchiest right now.

perhaps the cops,dreamer or tracker will be able to sway the argument

i could also get behind cuda, just bc he seems the most bloodthirsty of everyone. as a mafia, you dont really care who dies so i think hes just trying really hard to kill anyone that gets any suspicion. and may have been trying very hard to lynch alive or dixy because he DID believe their story and expected them to be protected overnight like everyone else did.

or, everyone could be lying haah
 
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InverseOfNeo

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Nov 17, 2000
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InverseOfNeos relevant posts:

Agrees Alive is acting like a moron, but doesnt go so far as to put a vote there - http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=33467288&postcount=66

Threatens to vote Alive (doesnt follow thru) - http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=33467331&postcount=71

Basically a plea to not vote Alive -
http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=33467819&postcount=126

Voicing agreement opinion to not lynch - http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=33468689&postcount=155

Most telling post, I suggest cuda, alive and dixy all die, then neo chimes in very strongly suggesting that would be a bad thing for town. It could mean he is mafia and knows they werent mafia (of his faction), OR it confirms he is the 3rd mason as he claims -
http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=33473876&postcount=228

Counterargument - It was very dangerous for Dixy to hide behind fletcher, UNLESS fletcher is the 3rd mason. BOTH alive and Dixy made posts trying to drum up suspicion on Fletcher, why do that, then hide behind, UNLESS you know he was a townsfolk. If he was mafia then you are dead. Personally I wouldnt hide behind ANYONE first night, unless I knew for sure.

I think we NEED to lynch tonight, but I dont know who yet. If anyone can come up with a scenario where Dixy would hide behind a fletcher and fletcher NOT be a fellow mason, I might change my vote but it seems neo is the sketchiest right now.

perhaps the cops,dreamer or tracker will be able to sway the argument

I voted Alive before I knew who the other masons were. I was not informed of this until after I had voted. When I found out I took the vote down.

We can agree that I was right hat if Alive and Dixy died then it would be bad for the town, as we all saw what happened last night.

In response to the other doubts you have about me and my story...
Dixy claimed to be the mason leader in order to stop the lynching of Alive.
As for Alive, after he started getting votes to be lynched very early he voted for USS, in an attempt to start others to vote for another person so a majority would not be achieved.
Check when Alive voted for USS and when Dixy came out as mason leader.
Dixy, as the hider had no problem because he was going to hide and protect himself.
That's why in his posts he was telling the doctor to protect Alive and not him.

Dixy managed to achieve the non-majority/a no lynch and keep Alive safe for the day.

During the night we decided:
Alive will try to recruit a new mason and Dixy will hide behind USS so we will know if he was innocent or not.
We never thought that USS could be targeted the first night and thus losing Dixy.
 
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drum

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What do you not understand?

All of my post NIGHT posts can be stricken as I misunderstood the secondary mason roles. I thought those were powerless townspeople and it turns out the secondary masons are townspeople that already had power roles. That completely wiped out what I thought was going on so I'm back at square 1 figuring this out.
 

ViviTheMage

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The problem is, if the cops sway the vote ... they would have to do it very strategically, or get hit at night.

The BEST way to do it, is for the cop to out himself/herself, and hopefully the doc can save him ... granted, we think the doc is afk.
 

InverseOfNeo

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The problem is, if the cops sway the vote ... they would have to do it very strategically, or get hit at night.

The BEST way to do it, is for the cop to out himself/herself, and hopefully the doc can save him ... granted, we think the doc is afk.

Exactly, thus I call upon the jailkeeper to save me tonight. Unless of course, he is afk too HAHAHA.
 
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on second thought, if i understand the new roles, with the introduction of insane cop, the cops are basically worthless until:
one of them dies, revealing what the remaining one is
one of them investigates someone that later dies (not sure how that works if the target of investigation is killed in the same night?).
so even if the cop outed themselves, not only cant you trust that, you cant even trust their analysis (unless they claim to have investigated a dead person to confirm if they are insane or not).
 

ViviTheMage

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on second thought, if i understand the new roles, with the introduction of insane cop, the cops are basically worthless until:
one of them dies, revealing what the remaining one is
one of them investigates someone that later dies (not sure how that works if the target of investigation is killed in the same night?).
so even if the cop outed themselves, not only cant you trust that, you cant even trust their analysis (unless they claim to have investigated a dead person to confirm if they are insane or not).

But if they did not out themselves, and tried to strategically get everyone to vote for someone...they could still do it without outing themselves, it'd be difficult though.
 

InverseOfNeo

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Of course you would say that...

I would say it because last night left the town members at a great disadvantage and we can't miss another opportunity. Hardly anyone is being vocal about what they think. I'm trying to start the conversation, or continue it depending on how you view things.
 
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at the end of the game. that does not say what each char did, just the end result. im curious how all the roleblocking/saves/snooping goes.
 

drum

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He is probably trying to get this game on the move and I can't blame him. I'm in for Cuda1447 too
 
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