** ATOT OFFICIAL STAR WARS EP. 2 Thread **

[FeathersMcGraw]

Little did you notice things I enjoyed:

There's a great subliminal effect during the initial chase sequence when Anakin is clinging to the assassin's speeder, and the reflection in the windshield shows the assassin's actual face. I was wondering what the heck I just saw up until "she" is killed.

In an establishing shot outside Lars Owen's farm, there are a couple of creatures in the foreground. "Womp rats. They're not much bigger than two meters."

Count Dooku's speech to Obi-Wan is in essence the same one that Vader gives to Luke Skywalker.

Things I didn't quite get:

If there are always two Sith, a master and an apprentice, then it seems a bit silly that Darth Maul, who was an obvious apprentice compared to Dooku, and Dooku should both have the right-hand man position to Darth Sidious. Of course, Darth Sidious' power was likely weaker ten years ago, but some parts of the story didn't quite add up for me in the initial viewing (maybe I was just tired; the first hour of the movie didn't help that all that much). I'm also still a bit puzzled who commissioned the clone army and for what purpose.

I wonder who gave C-3P0 his "skin".

Things I didn't care for:

R2-D2's new method of locomotion was just silly. They better burn out those jets in Episode III or I'm going to wonder why they need those big forks to get loaded into any starship.

Obi-Wan doesn't strike me as the wise-cracking type.

How many times can one man get his hand cut off?

The verdict:

I thought the quality of visuals was even more impressive than Episode I, although some of the establishing shots seem to have lost their ability to make me go "ooh" -- clearly I'm getting jaded. I really like how the evolution of Anakin is proceeding like a puzzle with its pieces falling into place, but it's really being hampered by the god-awful dialogue. I've seen some complaints about the acting (which I think have some merit -- the chemistry between Portman and Christensen is all but non-existent from my viewpoint), but I really think the actors are getting hamstrung by what they've been given.

I think Attack of the Clones is an improvement over The Phantom Menace, but I realize that's damned with faint praise.

 

[GTaudiophile]

I just wish Lucas made an R-rated version! Who else wanted to see Anakin slaughter the Sand People after his mom died?

 

[Blayze]

hmmm....i didnt expect senator Palpetine to be Darth Sideous....

I knew this in episode 1... but they could fool us all and make him a clone or something. That would be dumb though.

 

[MrBond]

I saw that reflection too, I'm not sure it was a reflection though, she may have changed back to her real form, because Anakin knew what she was.

I think R2D2 with jets was one of the original ideas that Lucas wanted to do, but just didn't see how he could do them. Apparently there was a scene from TPM where he used them, but it was cut.

Did Yoda actually use Force Lightning, or did he just absorb/reflect it back?

 

[Blayze]

also can anyone explain the Sifo-Dyas thing? I don't believe that it was Sidious at all, but someone else...

Puzzled I am yes, hmmm...

I just wish Lucas made an R-rated version! Who else wanted to see Anakin slaughter the Sand People after his mom died?

This is in the book. I would have loved to see it, but since Lucas is going for PG on all the films some stuff gets cut/not made. I also thought this film was pushing a PG rating. But no blood = PG rating.

 

[isildur]

this thread = a hat rack

 

[shiner]

nevermind

 

[EvilYoda]

I can't even reply yet, I'm still all smiles.

Now, I've seen it once. 3 or 4 more times to go.

 

[neomits]

OK, did anyone else notice this thing? After the intro story scroll thing.... THE CAMERA PANS UP!!!! for every other movie it always panned down. This movie it panned up. I was suprised I noticed it but while I was watching it as soon as it happend something in my head just said... woah... this isn't right..


Another thing. Jar-Jar is the single most important character in the STar wars universe. I was SOOOO glad what his character did in this movie. He f*cked our universe last movie.... now he's f*cked theirs!

 

[Nefrodite]

wow i just got back from watching it first showing of course hehe. i gotta say, after my dissapointment with eps 1 this movie is far far better. and for those of you judging it from a bad divx screener, go f*ck yourselves i mean why would you do that anyways? ruin your first viewing..sad. its a thrill ride of a movie, i could feel the bass vibrating my drink cup the action scenes were done very well, whether in the saber battles or full on war scenes. no more cartoon gungan cutesy pink energy ball bullsh*t

that yoda part had me cracking up, the audience was too little bastard finally shows his true powers, so damned kewl. the fx this time are finally up to snuff, the aliens look like they are really interacting with the enviroment. sure theres are a few bad spots, but with the shear volume of fx its pretty impressive. i gotta say it makes spidermans halfassed fx look even worse now (esp since they are showing the entire end sequence in tv commercials now). sure the love scenes have bad dialog, but i guess you could blame that on vaders character hehe..he never was a smoothy i guess.

i did have a gripe with the convenient death of his mother though, would have been more pplausible if the guards were alerted to intruders and shot through the tent killing her..or something like that.


and the storm troopers are all ausi's? go figure...

maybe it was just me, but it did seem like there was a lack of clarity sometimes.. like in the scene with all the fine grass.. i dunno. most of the other scenes were more forgiving to the format though. and princess amidala... so yummy.. much improved from last time.

 

[MrBond]

Originally posted by: neomits
OK, did anyone else notice this thing? After the intro story scroll thing.... THE CAMERA PANS UP!!!! for every other movie it always panned down. This movie it panned up. I was suprised I noticed it but while I was watching it as soon as it happend something in my head just said... woah... this isn't right..

Another thing. Jar-Jar is the single most important character in the STar wars universe. I was SOOOO glad what his character did in this movie. He f*cked our universe last movie.... now he's f*cked theirs!

I noticed that screen crawl too! I wonder why he changed it?

I wonder how many other people will notice that about JarJar...

 

[SithSolo1]

"Dooku is stronger than Yoda (muscles), therefore in certain scenes, should've easily overtaken him. Don't give me that Yoda was using the proper techniques or anything, it's just lame how that was made." Size matters not.

The book says Shimmi gave 3P0 "skin", whether its his current one or not. I dunno

They made the toy of R2 with jets about 2 years ago. I Have it. Also why would he need to use his jets to go about 3 meters up to get into a ship?

 

[normajean]

the script floating around had padme give c3po his skin when anakin went looking for his mom.

don't question every friggin thing and you may enjoy it..I will see it again in a couple days if not tomorrrow

Lucas is a pimp.

 

[KevinF]

I just wish Lucas made an R-rated version! Who else wanted to see Anakin slaughter the Sand People after his mom died?

Yeah, I was thinking that to myself after that the scene immediately changed as he decapited the Tusken. Do you think an extended version was filmed that we'll see come DVD time, or would Lucas not have bothered?

 

[JSang]

i doubt he even bothered to make more graphic scenes...the rendering time is very expensive and im sure his focus has always been on the long time sw fans along with the little kiddies.

 

[abaez]

"Boba is Jengo's son. Don't be stupid, it's so completely obvious."

That's Jango, stupid.

"I know you guys picked up Qui Gon yelling NO at Anikan when Yoda was meditating during the Tuskan scene."

Actually, Qui Gon yells Anakin Anakin, but it's another voice who yells NO.

 

[zimmie6576]

First thing, Boba is a CLONE of Jango. He just raised him as a son, as it was stated that he wanted a completely UNALTERED clone of himself with NO GROWTH ACCELERATION. This means that there is no way the unaltered clone of Jango could look like he was Jango's age, because the clone army was only commissioned ten years before AOTC (i.e. that was Jango himself killed at the end). Any of you who say that Boba is Jango's biological son are idiots and didn't pay any attention to the dialog. Anyone who paid attention to the dialog would realize that Boba is a clone of Jango.

I would also like to add a theory on the Sifo-Dyas thing. Obi-Wan said he died more than ten years ago. The clone army was commissioned ten years ago. That means that Sifo-Dyas died before the clone army was commissioned. I believe what happened was that he died back then, and Count Dooku, while still a Jedi but in league with Darth Sidious/Palpatine, commissioned the clone army using the dead Jedi's name. He then deleted all record of that planet from the Jedi Archives. Sidious could not have deleted the data from the archive since he was not a Jedi and therefore would have no access to the Archives. It had to be Dooku

Lastly, Yoda did not generate his own Force Lightning. He absorbed Dooku's and shot it back at him. For some reason, if Yoda could do lightening, I keep thinking it would be green.

 

[JeffSpicoli]

Single biggest problem I had with this flick? It's a movie called Attack of the Clones and the last line of the entire film is, "The clone war has just begun". There was no plot!!!

 

[AccruedExpenditure]

Single biggest problem I had with this flick? It's a movie called Attack of the Clones and the last line of the entire film is, "The clone war has just begun". There was no plot!!!

Yes, i was pondering that on the drive home too.

 

[sohcrates]

just saw it. i enjoyed it, though it was awfully slow moving at times. but it totally left the door wide open for craziness in episode III !

anakin getting pissed and taking out all those sand people could've been SOOOOO cool...yet the cut away after like 2 seconds! It was raw emotion, and Lucas killed it! grrr

how can palpatine/sidious be on the death star at the end...as WELL as in the senate???

 

[Supermercado]

Originally posted by: Gnote

Single biggest problem I had with this flick? It's a movie called Attack of the Clones and the last line of the entire film is, "The clone war has just begun". There was no plot!!!

Yes, i was pondering that on the drive home too.

I can't say that I disagree with you about the title of the film. Attack Of The Clones never did it for me. I thought The Phantom Menace was a dumb title, too, but that grew on me eventually. I don't see the clones really attacking anything. I mean, yes, there's the battle scene, etc., but is that really enough to warrant the title of the film? I thought it was going to focus more on the actual Clone Wars. Oh, well. I still enjoyed seeing it.

 

I can't say that I disagree with you about the title of the film. Attack Of The Clones never did it for me. I thought The Phantom Menace was a dumb title, too, but that grew on me eventually. I don't see the clones really attacking anything. I mean, yes, there's the battle scene, etc., but is that really enough to warrant the title of the film? I thought it was going to focus more on the actual Clone Wars. Oh, well. I still enjoyed seeing it.

So is the next film the Clone Wars?

 

[PlatinumGold]

I know i'm gonna get flamed but this film was a MAJOR disappointment. i enjoyed the first one more.

man the acting was just as bad as the first. the plot sucked. the effects were only barely adequate. overall this movie is a disgrace to the star wars trilogy.

 

[UNCjigga]

I hate to say it, but I think Ryan Phillipe would have been a MUCH better choice for the adolescent Ani.

 

[Blayze]

I know you guys picked up Qui Gon yelling NO at Anikan when Yoda was meditating during the Tuskan scene."

Actually, Qui Gon yells Anakin Anakin, but it's another voice who yells NO.

I didn't hear this at all. Our theater crowd was so pumped that they cheered like hell when Anakin cut loose on the Tuskens. Guess I'll hear it when I go see it again.

And during the Yoda kick a$$ part you couldn't even hear the movie. People got out of their chairs and cheered like hell. It was insane, but a very enjoyable experience.