ATOT Yahoo! Fantasy Baseball Pay League

[KeithTalent]

Wow, I haven't heard this much whining and crying since my days on the elementary school playground. Grow up.
KT

 

[Al Neri]

Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Wow, I haven't heard this much whining and crying since my days on the elementary school playground. Grow up.
KT

Wait, you tell me to grow up because I'm calling out a cheater?

 

[KeithTalent]

I'm telling you to grow up because you are a sore loser. The trade you bitched and moaned about between me and Tango worked out way better for me, but you're just all sore because you couldn't work something out for yourself.

I guess I just shouldn't play these stupid games as I don't really enjoy playing with children. So annoying.

KT

 

[dbk]

i see nothing wrong with any of those trades

 

[TangoJuliet]

Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Wow, I haven't heard this much whining and crying since my days on the elementary school playground. Grow up.
KT

x1

Originally posted by: KeithTalent
I'm telling you to grow up because you are a sore loser. The trade you bitched and moaned about between me and Tango worked out way better for me, but you're just all sore because you couldn't work something out for yourself.

I guess I just shouldn't play these stupid games as I don't really enjoy playing with children. So annoying.

KT

x2

Originally posted by: dbk
i see nothing wrong with any of those trades

Thats because there is nothing wrong with any of those trades. This guy keeps whining about every trade is unfair and I'm cheating and theres collusion in the league blah blah blah.

First off, the trades are approved by league review. If the trades are so lopsided and unfair the league can veto them at any time. It only takes 5 no votes to veto any trade. NONE of the trades were opposed by anyone other then Al Neri.

Secondly, Al stop demanding you want your money back. There are NO refunds especially when the season is 80% over. I'm sure if you were in 1st place you wouldn't be demanding your money back. But because your team is playing poorly you chock it up as to us cheating and colluding and wanting your $10. Seriously I'm at the point of just giving back your $10 so that you STFU.

I removed your privileges of posting in the league after I warned you about calling me out as a cheater and renaming your team name "Bronx Cheaters". You continued to post that crap so I took away your options to post anything. If you wanted to post something then you can do it here for the rest of ATOT to read.

Thirdly, none of those trades you posted are lopsided or unfair. Infact, the first trade involving Hanley has worked out a lot better for KT. You are solely basing the trade on name value then actual stats. I can post the numbers but I really don't feel like doing all that work. The last trade for Halladay and Carpenter; longballers has something like 100 innings left to pitch. Once he used up those innings all of his pitchers would be worthless. He needed some extra offense and I gave up a players that are ranked 17 and 84 overall. It was only after the trade was completed that Cruz went onto the DL.

Fourthly, again you bring up that BS with the F-ing tivo. You are seriously either really dense or have no sense of humor. Post every f-ing message I wrote about trading you Abreu for that tivo and everyone will see that I was joking. In fact, I went out and bought the thing I think a day after we spoke about it. If you would like I can scan a copy of the receipt from Best Buy.

Its seriously guys like you Al that make playing these games not fun anymore. I have gotten complaints from some owners that say your whining and complaining has made the league boring and have given up playing all together. Why is it every year that I play these fantasy games there is someone like you that has to complain about every damn thing. For God's sake guy its a game.....and the ONLY person that is complaining is YOU.

Lastly, your above post is a call out making this official fantasy baseball thread a "call out" thread. I would suggest that you edit your above posts Al so that you don't get a vacation from AT as well.

 

[Al Neri]

You offered me Abreu as a partial trade for the Tivo, you can call it a joke, you can call it however you want, it was what it was.

I'm through with this thread.

-Al Neri

 

[shocksyde]

Wowzers, this league went to shit, huh?

Tango, weren't you involved in a trade dispute during last year's fantasy football season?

 

[Al Neri]

Interesting to see that Tango Juliet has a checkered past when it comes to fantasy and this is not a one time thing. Now I know not to get involved with these types of things and stick to leagues where I know the people. It's unfortunate the there are people like TangoJuliet out there.

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...key=y&keyword1=fantasy

 

[TangoJuliet]

Originally posted by: Al Neri
Interesting to see that Tango Juliet has a checkered past when it comes to fantasy and this is not a one time thing. Now I know not to get involved with these types of things and stick to leagues where I know the people. It's unfortunate the there are people like TJ out there.

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...key=y&keyword1=fantasy

Ok, you keep saying you are done with this league and through with this thread but you keep posting. Who are you Brett Favre???

Yes, there was a couple issues with that league regarding a trade and roster dumping late in the season but those issues were straightened out. The thread that you linked to concerned a trade I made with another owner. I did not think it was a fair trade as one of the players involved in the trade was ruled out for the season a day after the deal was completed. That player never played a single game for my team and I gave up 2 really high draft choices in return. Hey, I was wrong....I admitted it and we went on our way. Ya live ya learn sort of thing. The league was involved in the ruling the whole time and my trade reversal request was dropped.

Lastly, I asked for you to stop calling me out and you have again persisted. I know my name and address is in my profile but to post my name in the thread is wrong and I will bring it up to the mods.

This is playing out like a scene in Bronx Tale

- Is he a good friend of yours?
- No, I don't even like him.
There's your answer right there. It costs you $10 to get rid of him. He's never bother you again. He's never gonna ask you for money again. He's out of your life for $10 dollars. You got off cheap.

 

[Al Neri]

Originally posted by: TangoJuliet

Originally posted by: Al Neri
Interesting to see that Tango Juliet has a checkered past when it comes to fantasy and this is not a one time thing. Now I know not to get involved with these types of things and stick to leagues where I know the people. It's unfortunate the there are people like TangoJuliet out there.

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...key=y&keyword1=fantasy

Ok, you keep saying you are done with this league and through with this thread but you keep posting. Who are you Brett Favre???

Yes, there was a couple issues with that league regarding a trade and roster dumping late in the season but those issues were straightened out. The thread that you linked to concerned a trade I made with another owner. I did not think it was a fair trade as one of the players involved in the trade was ruled out for the season a day after the deal was completed. That player never played a single game for my team and I gave up 2 really high draft choices in return. Hey, I was wrong....I admitted it and we went on our way. Ya live ya learn sort of thing. The league was involved in the ruling the whole time and my trade reversal request was dropped.

Lastly, I asked for you to stop calling me out and you have again persisted. I know my name and address is in my profile but to post my name in the thread is wrong and I will bring it up to the mods.

This is playing out like a scene in Bronx Tale

- Is he a good friend of yours?
- No, I don't even like him.
There's your answer right there. It costs you $10 to get rid of him. He's never bother you again. He's never gonna ask you for money again. He's out of your life for $10 dollars. You got off cheap.

Look. It looks like cheating to me, either cheating or unfairly taking advantage of a situation, either way it ruins the spirit of the game and degrades the quality of the sport. I've heard you claim you are going to bring something up to the moderators over and over and threatening that I will get a vacation for my actions. Can you handle this on your own?

You have a checkered past, which does not surprise me, and by suppressing my ability to use the yahoo! league's message board I have but no choice to use this thread as a sounding board.

I hope others see this and learn that it may be in their best interest to not join a league with you. I would say that it is truly unfortunate if these are a few coincidences and not the result of some shady dealings by you in fantasy leagues - but you know what they say, if it looks like a duck, talks like a duck and walks like a duck, it's usually a duck.

 

[TangoJuliet]

Originally posted by: Al Neri

Originally posted by: TangoJuliet

Originally posted by: Al Neri
Interesting to see that Tango Juliet has a checkered past when it comes to fantasy and this is not a one time thing. Now I know not to get involved with these types of things and stick to leagues where I know the people. It's unfortunate the there are people like out there.

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...key=y&keyword1=fantasy

Ok, you keep saying you are done with this league and through with this thread but you keep posting. Who are you Brett Favre???

Yes, there was a couple issues with that league regarding a trade and roster dumping late in the season but those issues were straightened out. The thread that you linked to concerned a trade I made with another owner. I did not think it was a fair trade as one of the players involved in the trade was ruled out for the season a day after the deal was completed. That player never played a single game for my team and I gave up 2 really high draft choices in return. Hey, I was wrong....I admitted it and we went on our way. Ya live ya learn sort of thing. The league was involved in the ruling the whole time and my trade reversal request was dropped.

Lastly, I asked for you to stop calling me out and you have again persisted. I know my name and address is in my profile but to post my name in the thread is wrong and I will bring it up to the mods.

This is playing out like a scene in Bronx Tale

- Is he a good friend of yours?
- No, I don't even like him.
There's your answer right there. It costs you $10 to get rid of him. He's never bother you again. He's never gonna ask you for money again. He's out of your life for $10 dollars. You got off cheap.

Look. It looks like cheating to me, either cheating or unfairly taking advantage of a situation, either way it ruins the spirit of the game and degrades the quality of the sport. I've heard you claim you are going to bring something up to the moderators over and over and threatening that I will get a vacation for my actions. Can you handle this on your own?

You have a checkered past, which does not surprise me, and by suppressing my ability to use the yahoo! league's message board I have but no choice to use this thread as a sounding board.

I hope others see this and learn that it may be in their best interest to not join a league with you. I would say that it is truly unfortunate if these are a few coincidences and not the result of some shady dealings by you in fantasy leagues - but you know what they say, if it looks like a duck, talks like a duck and walks like a duck, it's usually a duck.

I've already sent a message to the ATOT mod to review your excessive "call outs" including using my full name in one of your posts. Please explain to me how I am cheating or anyone else in this league is cheating. You posted the trades that I have completed and someone that is NOT in our league already posted that each of the trades were fair.

Just because YOU think a trade is not fair does not mean that everyone else doesn't. I have already explained that the first trade where I fleeced KT out of 2 players has worked out way better for him than for me. I was in first at the time of that trade by about 5 points and now I trail KT by 30....so please explain to me how that is cheating.

I know you are going to bring up the tivo thing yet again....so why don't you just post the freaking conversation so everyone can see that I was joking. Hell, I am going to post my receipt from best buy showing that I just went out and bought one on my own FFS.

You are a sore loser and you whine about everything. Seriously, I am at the point now of just dropping you all together from this league with NO refund and you can whine about it for all you want.

Its a f-ing FANTASY BASEBALL LEAGUE GUY! GROW UP....HAVE FUN AND JUST LET IT GO!

 

[Al Neri]

Originally posted by: TangoJuliet

Originally posted by: Al Neri

Originally posted by: TangoJuliet

Originally posted by: Al Neri
Interesting to see that Tango Juliet has a checkered past when it comes to fantasy and this is not a one time thing. Now I know not to get involved with these types of things and stick to leagues where I know the people. It's unfortunate the there are people like TangoJuliet out there.

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...key=y&keyword1=fantasy

Ok, you keep saying you are done with this league and through with this thread but you keep posting. Who are you Brett Favre???

Yes, there was a couple issues with that league regarding a trade and roster dumping late in the season but those issues were straightened out. The thread that you linked to concerned a trade I made with another owner. I did not think it was a fair trade as one of the players involved in the trade was ruled out for the season a day after the deal was completed. That player never played a single game for my team and I gave up 2 really high draft choices in return. Hey, I was wrong....I admitted it and we went on our way. Ya live ya learn sort of thing. The league was involved in the ruling the whole time and my trade reversal request was dropped.

Lastly, I asked for you to stop calling me out and you have again persisted. I know my name and address is in my profile but to post my name in the thread is wrong and I will bring it up to the mods.

This is playing out like a scene in Bronx Tale

- Is he a good friend of yours?
- No, I don't even like him.
There's your answer right there. It costs you $10 to get rid of him. He's never bother you again. He's never gonna ask you for money again. He's out of your life for $10 dollars. You got off cheap.

Look. It looks like cheating to me, either cheating or unfairly taking advantage of a situation, either way it ruins the spirit of the game and degrades the quality of the sport. I've heard you claim you are going to bring something up to the moderators over and over and threatening that I will get a vacation for my actions. Can you handle this on your own?

You have a checkered past, which does not surprise me, and by suppressing my ability to use the yahoo! league's message board I have but no choice to use this thread as a sounding board.

I hope others see this and learn that it may be in their best interest to not join a league with you. I would say that it is truly unfortunate if these are a few coincidences and not the result of some shady dealings by you in fantasy leagues - but you know what they say, if it looks like a duck, talks like a duck and walks like a duck, it's usually a duck.

I've already sent a message to the ATOT mod to review your excessive "call outs" including using my full name in one of your posts. Please explain to me how I am cheating or anyone else in this league is cheating. You posted the trades that I have completed and someone that is NOT in our league already posted that each of the trades were fair.

Just because YOU think a trade is not fair does not mean that everyone else doesn't. I have already explained that the first trade where I fleeced KT out of 2 players has worked out way better for him than for me. I was in first at the time of that trade by about 5 points and now I trail KT by 30....so please explain to me how that is cheating.

I know you are going to bring up the tivo thing yet again....so why don't you just post the freaking conversation so everyone can see that I was joking. Hell, I am going to post my receipt from best buy showing that I just went out and bought one on my own FFS.

You are a sore loser and you whine about everything. Seriously, I am at the point now of just dropping you all together from this league with NO refund and you can whine about it for all you want.

Its a f-ing FANTASY BASEBALL LEAGUE GUY! GROW UP....HAVE FUN AND JUST LET IT GO!

Why don't you quote another movie?

 

[Al Neri]

For the record, there are multiple people in the league who have told me that they stopped following the league because something was just not right.

 

[Al Neri]

Here is the chat from May 17th, 2009. I am not posting anything new, his AIM name is already in this thread unless he edits his old posts to try to say that I am giving away more of his personal information.

Originally posted by: TangoJuliet

Originally posted by: Al Neri
We should all share our IM addresses.

I'm H20Metal on AIM

4:08 PM h20metal: Well, we could try a couple of things. I can offer the gift cards (186) + $50 and that would include the shipping, or I can offer the gift card and we can meet somewhere to avoid the shipping costs
me: maybe ur better off just hanging on to that TiVo, save us a lotta trouble.
4:08 PM h20metal: its up to you. i was going to go down to the cablevision store tomorrow to get some cable cards to see if I can get it to work. if not, then its going back to the store anyways
4:09 PM me: yeah that's better off
4:10 PM h20metal: ok ok. ill give you the gift card AND abreau

 

[KeithTalent]

Originally posted by: Al Neri
For the record, there are multiple people in the league who have told me that they stopped following the league because something was just not right.

I cannot fathom how any of this looks like cheating in any way shape or form.

KT

 

[TangoJuliet]

Originally posted by: Al Neri
Here is the chat from May 17th, 2009. I am not posting anything new, his AIM name is already in this thread unless he edits his old posts to try to say that I am giving away more of his personal information.

4:08 PM h20metal: Well, we could try a couple of things. I can offer the gift cards (186) + $50 and that would include the shipping, or I can offer the gift card and we can meet somewhere to avoid the shipping costs
me: maybe ur better off just hanging on to that TiVo, save us a lotta trouble.
4:08 PM h20metal: its up to you. i was going to go down to the cablevision store tomorrow to get some cable cards to see if I can get it to work. if not, then its going back to the store anyways
4:09 PM me: yeah that's better off
4:10 PM h20metal: ok ok. ill give you the gift card AND abreau

and lets not just cut and paste what you want.....finish up after 4:10pm

 

[Al Neri]

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: Al Neri
For the record, there are multiple people in the league who have told me that they stopped following the league because something was just not right.

I cannot fathom how any of this looks like cheating in any way shape or form.

KT

I know you cannot. You do not watch or follow baseball, you said it yourself.

I don't know, it looked fine to me, what hell do I know, I don't even watch baseball at all. I was just comparing the stats and it looked fine.

Reject if you think it's bad. I have no clue.

 

[KeithTalent]

Originally posted by: Al Neri

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: Al Neri
For the record, there are multiple people in the league who have told me that they stopped following the league because something was just not right.

I cannot fathom how any of this looks like cheating in any way shape or form.

KT

I know you cannot. You do not watch or follow baseball, you said it yourself.

I don't know, it looked fine to me, what hell do I know, I don't even watch baseball at all. I was just comparing the stats and it looked fine.

Reject if you think it's bad. I have no clue.

Yeah I know, so please explain it. Makes no sense to me.

KT

 

[Al Neri]

My original notes on it:


I don't buy the most recent trade. I'm not accusing collusion but come on. I have vetoed it, I would just ask that you look at it and consider if you agree.

Keith Talent to give up:

Jimmy Rollins
Evan Longoria

TangoJuliet to give up:

Casey Blake
Alexei Ramirez
Hanley Ramirez

Right now Hanley Ramirez is currently hurt, will avoid the DL, but is hurt. Casey Blake is playing above his head and Alexei Ramirez is a huge question mark. Jimmy Rollins is 2 years agos MVP winner and Evan Longoria is one of the biggest RBI machines in baseball on a team that won the pennant.

I really hope that this trade was done truthfully and there's no collusion going on.

 

[Al Neri]

Originally posted by: TangoJuliet

Originally posted by: Al Neri
Here is the chat from May 17th, 2009. I am not posting anything new, his AIM name is already in this thread unless he edits his old posts to try to say that I am giving away more of his personal information.

4:08 PM h20metal: Well, we could try a couple of things. I can offer the gift cards (186) + $50 and that would include the shipping, or I can offer the gift card and we can meet somewhere to avoid the shipping costs
me: maybe ur better off just hanging on to that TiVo, save us a lotta trouble.
4:08 PM h20metal: its up to you. i was going to go down to the cablevision store tomorrow to get some cable cards to see if I can get it to work. if not, then its going back to the store anyways
4:09 PM me: yeah that's better off
4:10 PM h20metal: ok ok. ill give you the gift card AND abreau

and lets not just cut and paste what you want.....finish up after 4:10pm

you pushing me to make the trade for Abreu and a gift card?

 

[TangoJuliet]

so at 4:10pm on May 17, 2009 we had this conversation on AIM about me giving you $186 in gift cards plus $50 in shipping but hmmmm I already bought the tivo myself at bby on May 17, 2009 at 1:46pm

http://i186.photobucket.com/al...koholik24/ATOT/BBY.jpg

funny how that works

don't just cut and paste what you want

 

[KeithTalent]

Originally posted by: Al Neri
My original notes on it:


I don't buy the most recent trade. I'm not accusing collusion but come on. I have vetoed it, I would just ask that you look at it and consider if you agree.

Keith Talent to give up:

Jimmy Rollins
Evan Longoria

TangoJuliet to give up:

Casey Blake
Alexei Ramirez
Hanley Ramirez

Right now Hanley Ramirez is currently hurt, will avoid the DL, but is hurt. Casey Blake is playing above his head and Alexei Ramirez is a huge question mark. Jimmy Rollins is 2 years agos MVP winner and Evan Longoria is one of the biggest RBI machines in baseball on a team that won the pennant.

I really hope that this trade was done truthfully and there's no collusion going on.

Yeah, then you offered me a trade for Hanley 2 weeks later. Give me a break.

KT

 

[Al Neri]

Originally posted by: TangoJuliet
so at 4:10pm on May 17, 2009 we had this conversation on AIM about me giving you $186 in gift cards plus $50 in shipping but hmmmm I already bought the tivo myself at bby on May 17, 2009 at 1:46pm

http://i186.photobucket.com/al...koholik24/ATOT/BBY.jpg

funny how that works

don't just cut and paste what you want

Mudslinging? It's a public forum, I don't care for that stuff, but here's the explanation from your own keyboard:


3:57 PM h20metal: since you werent interested in the best buy cards I went ahead and just bought it today at bby
i had it hooked up but I couldn't figure out how to use the cable card
me: oh ok
3:58 PM so ur not interested any more
ah well...
i was thinking about taking those off ur hands for a bit
h20metal: well, i could just return it if you wanted the gift cards
me: how much GC?
3:59 PM h20metal: i have $186.22 in GCs
me: how much was the unit at BB
h20metal: 249.99
me: ohok
4:01 PM h20metal: did u still want to try and work something out?
4:02 PM me: sure if youw ant
i probably wont use the TiVo any more
i dont watch any TV
h20metal: yeah, sure. i can just return this unit. tell em it didnt work or something

 

[TangoJuliet]

Originally posted by: Al Neri

Originally posted by: TangoJuliet
so at 4:10pm on May 17, 2009 we had this conversation on AIM about me giving you $186 in gift cards plus $50 in shipping but hmmmm I already bought the tivo myself at bby on May 17, 2009 at 1:46pm

http://i186.photobucket.com/al...koholik24/ATOT/BBY.jpg

funny how that works

don't just cut and paste what you want

Mudslinging? It's a public forum, I don't care for that stuff, but here's the explanation from your own keyboard:


3:57 PM h20metal: since you werent interested in the best buy cards I went ahead and just bought it today at bby
i had it hooked up but I couldn't figure out how to use the cable card
me: oh ok
3:58 PM so ur not interested any more
ah well...
i was thinking about taking those off ur hands for a bit
h20metal: well, i could just return it if you wanted the gift cards
me: how much GC?
3:59 PM h20metal: i have $186.22 in GCs
me: how much was the unit at BB
h20metal: 249.99
me: ohok
4:01 PM h20metal: did u still want to try and work something out?
4:02 PM me: sure if youw ant
i probably wont use the TiVo any more
i dont watch any TV
h20metal: yeah, sure. i can just return this unit. tell em it didnt work or something

ok, so i bought it after we had the convo. sorry i got confused. again, i asked for you to post what was written after 4:10pm. i must have been using ichat because that convo is not stored in gmail

 

[TangoJuliet]

Originally posted by: Al Neri
For the record, there are multiple people in the league who have told me that they stopped following the league because something was just not right.

Yeah sure looks like people stopped following. Other then 2 owners everyone has logged into the league page within the past week.

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