ATOT's 4th Annual Yahoo Auction PPR KEEPER Fantasy Football League

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sjwaste

Diamond Member
Aug 2, 2000
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I really don't want to see any additional selling. It was sort of a pain in the ass and I think we're fine with 3 keepers, auction draft and waivers. There's already enough incentive to deal based on keeper value.
 

dougp

Diamond Member
May 3, 2002
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The big issue is, you have some people who aren't on the forums who probably don't know that it was all a mistake in terms of timing.

Like I said, if none of these coincidences would have happened (mostly in terms of match ups), the trade probably would have gone through.
 

KeithTalent

Elite Member | Administrator | No Lifer
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Nov 30, 2005
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Right, so you just assume the guy who has been in the league forever and has never done anything shady in the league or anywhere else here is suddenly colluding. Gotcha.

KT
 

dougp

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Right, so you just assume the guy who has been in the league forever and has never done anything shady in the league or anywhere else here is suddenly colluding. Gotcha.

KT

You're reading too far into it, hence why I posted here before assuming anything. Others in the group obviously felt that way, though.
 

Imported

Lifer
Sep 2, 2000
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Didn't think there was anything wrong with the trade. Was looking at player for player, not bye weeks, keeper value, etc.
 

dougp

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When I first read about the trade (in my email), I didn't think anything of it too. It wasn't until I realized they were playing each other did I start to wonder, hence why I posted here.
 

Crono

Lifer
Aug 8, 2001
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I thought the trade was favoring one party, but not really enough to be veto worthy, even with them playing each other.

Also: Entertaining offers for Demaryius Thomas exchange for a good RB1 + WR2. Certainly would do it for Bell or Charles.

Act now while supplies last!

EDIT: Supplies are gone.
 
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glenn1

Lifer
Sep 6, 2000
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I thought the trade was favoring one party, but not really enough to be veto worthy, even with them playing each other.

I agree but it's a done deal now. I do think at this point we should close the trade window though
 

sjwaste

Diamond Member
Aug 2, 2000
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Apparently SJ isn't really interested in keepers. *shrug*

No, I just didn't think those were particularly good offers. Like I said, I thought Bell was still eligible as a keeper, and that's the caliber (and keeper value) I was after. If you look at my roster, I have two clear keepers already. Maybe a 3rd, as I could do worse than keeping Gates for a buck. So any move is for 1 quality guy, not 3 OK players. Charles + Gates is my best package for a top tier guy that opens a keeper spot for me. If the offers I'm getting are the best I'm going to see, I might as well see if one of you goes 0-2 and I sneak in.

So yes, I'm interested in keepers. No, I'm not interested in what you proposed. *shrug*
 

dougp

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May 3, 2002
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No, I just didn't think those were particularly good offers. Like I said, I thought Bell was still eligible as a keeper, and that's the caliber (and keeper value) I was after. If you look at my roster, I have two clear keepers already. Maybe a 3rd, as I could do worse than keeping Gates for a buck. So any move is for 1 quality guy, not 3 OK players. Charles + Gates is my best package for a top tier guy that opens a keeper spot for me. If the offers I'm getting are the best I'm going to see, I might as well see if one of you goes 0-2 and I sneak in.

So yes, I'm interested in keepers. No, I'm not interested in what you proposed. *shrug*

That's why there's a counter button, right? And AJ Green is an OK player? LO-fucking-L. Denard Robinson? A top 5 RB since he started is just OK? Smith Sr. was a throw-in to give you flexibility at WR since you would have given up brown. Hey, you want a keeper? I'll throw you Murray.
 

TangoJuliet

Diamond Member
Jul 2, 2006
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Here's one proposal.

Seems fair but also like a lot of legwork for me. The more proposals we can come up with the easier it will become to pick and choose the things we like.

I do think at this point we should close the trade window though

The trade deadline is this Saturday (I think). No access to yahoo at work.

Hey, you want a keeper? I'll throw you Murray.

Murray isnt a keeper.

Guys, its pretty easy to tell who is a keeper or not - see that little K next to their name?? The means they are a keeper for this season and not eligible to be kept next year. Unless you are using the app then there wont be a K there...you'll only see it on the website.
 

sjwaste

Diamond Member
Aug 2, 2000
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That's why there's a counter button, right? And AJ Green is an OK player? LO-fucking-L. Denard Robinson? A top 5 RB since he started is just OK? Smith Sr. was a throw-in to give you flexibility at WR since you would have given up brown. Hey, you want a keeper? I'll throw you Murray.

But what was your ask - Antonio Brown and Charles? Yeah, there's a counter button, but I don't think we're in the same ballpark. RB1 is a premium in this league with the number of flex slots we play. And Brown is the best fantasy WR in the league.

Basically, you thought I was giving away Gates and Charles for Bell, but you think your offer is better. That's debatable.

Remember PMing me at the beginning of October with the notion that I was out of the playoffs? What did you offer then for Charles? Now all of a sudden I'm back in it when we need to veto. Hey that's great, it did save me from getting a guy that I can't keep, but really that's not the purpose.

That's why I'm not using the counter button. Make your best offer if you'd like.
 

dougp

Diamond Member
May 3, 2002
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But what was your ask - Antonio Brown and Charles? Yeah, there's a counter button, but I don't think we're in the same ballpark. RB1 is a premium in this league with the number of flex slots we play. And Brown is the best fantasy WR in the league.

Basically, you thought I was giving away Gates and Charles for Bell, but you think your offer is better. That's debatable.

Remember PMing me at the beginning of October with the notion that I was out of the playoffs? What did you offer then for Charles? Now all of a sudden I'm back in it when we need to veto. Hey that's great, it did save me from getting a guy that I can't keep, but really that's not the purpose.

That's why I'm not using the counter button. Make your best offer if you'd like.

If you feel that Charles is too expensive as a keeper, then my other #1 RBs will be too expensive for you (Lacy and Forte both went over $60.) I'd offer you Alshon, but he was someone's keeper last year, as was Murray and Julius Thomas. I offered you my stable of keepers, which you said you were looking for - all of whom have a good value. Don't want Smith Sr? Take Mallett, for $1, he'll be a pretty good QB next year as his chemistry with the receivers goes up. I don't care about Charles, honestly - I'd like Antonio Brown. All of my RBs are ranked pretty high - and my WRs are no slouches either, especially with Denard being able to be slotted in at WR.
 

TangoJuliet

Diamond Member
Jul 2, 2006
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Reasons why I am 1-11 this year

Dropped players:

Delanie Walker
Bobby Rainey
Mohamed Sanu
Miami
Latavius Murray
Isaiah Crowell

Happy Thanksgiving! Enjoy the games tomorrow!!
 

glenn1

Lifer
Sep 6, 2000
25,383
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TJ, it looks like you and me may be facing off in the consolation bracket Toilet Bowl. 1-12 and 2-11 teams squaring off, LOL what a wretched finale this will be. May the best (worst) team prevail!
 

TangoJuliet

Diamond Member
Jul 2, 2006
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TJ, it looks like you and me may be facing off in the consolation bracket Toilet Bowl. 1-12 and 2-11 teams squaring off, LOL what a wretched finale this will be. May the best (worst) team prevail!

Yeah pretty crazy that up until that point I had lost 11 straight....now I've won 2 in a row. Great time to put a winning streak together. I am excited about my prospects for next season. This is my warning to the league - WATCH OUT!!

As for the championship bracket....upset city!! Can't believe Tap This! lost. Doug had a stacked team but as usual Cutler and the bears were a let down.

Good luck to KT and Beantown in the championship!
 

TangoJuliet

Diamond Member
Jul 2, 2006
5,595
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Congratulations to the winner: Beantown Brawlers!

The championship game was close....if KT would have started Mia D instead of STL he would have won.

Final standings:
1st: Beantown Brawlers
2nd: Ponderous
3rd: Tap This!



Winners, please PM me your paypal address so I can send the winnings to you.

There have been several tweaks proposed for next season. Please post them here or in next year's thread. I know some of you have proposed ideas of how to tweak buying/selling keepers. There have been thoughts of reducing the league to 10 teams and upping the buy-in to $50. Another radical idea is to eliminate K and D and just go with the skill positions.
 
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