AT's iPhone 6S review is up

[NTMBK]

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9686/the-apple-iphone-6s-and-iphone-6s-plus-review

That SoC is a performance monster!

I'd love to see how this compares to Skylake-Y chips.

 

[Snafuh]

High performance and almost no throttling

 

[dahorns]

I'd love to see how this compares to Skylake-Y chips.

Looks like the GPU is pretty comparable to the HD 515 in the Core M series.

https://gfxbench.com/device.jsp?benchmark=gfx31&os=Windows&api=dx&cpu-arch=x86&hwtype=GPU&hwname=Intel(R)%20HD%20Graphics%20515&did=26176504&D=Intel(R)%20HD%20Graphics%20515


41.3 fps in Manhattan at 1080p and between 74 and 96 fps for T-Rex at 1080p.

Of course, that ignores the differences between mobile and non-mobile GFXBench.

Apples did a great job, as was to be expected.

 

[Magic Carpet]

Damn... that CPU is faaaaaaast. Wish I could upgrade my iPhone 5S with that. Too bad, I can't keep the same form-factor.

 

[ShintaiDK]

3200Mhz LPDDR4(doubled), 3MB L2 cache (tripled), 8MB L3 cache (doubled). No wonder these chips are bigger than x86 now.

 

[Magic Carpet]

3200Mhz LPDDR4(doubled), 3MB L2 cache (tripled), 8MB L3 cache (doubled). No wonder these chips are bigger than x86 now.

You reckon, iPhone 7 will get an equally impressive package next year? Apple doesn't do this sort of big performance jumps annually, if memory serves me right.

Personally, I'd love to have this kind of power/performance in a ~11" laptop form-factor, cooled totally passively w/ extra storage. Are you with me? Now that would be "cool".

 

[NTMBK]

3200Mhz LPDDR4(doubled), 3MB L2 cache (tripled), 8MB L3 cache (doubled). No wonder these chips are bigger than x86 now.

Makes you wish Intel would throw die area at cache like this! 8MB L3 across the board on the Core M would be pretty sweet.

 

[Burpo]

"By the time we get to iPad Pro and start comparing tablets to tablets, we may need to have a discussion about how Twister and Skylake compare."

 

[ShintaiDK]

Makes you wish Intel would throw die area at cache like this! 8MB L3 across the board on the Core M would be pretty sweet.

Oh I agree. On the other hand I wouldn't trade to get the weak A9 performance. It would have to be extra.

I have campaigned for bigger caches for a long time. 8-12MB on a dual core, 16-24MB on a quad etc.

 

[Face2Face]

I just picked up my 64GB iPhone 6s Plus yesterday. This phone is freaky fast and runs circles around my older HTC One M7. The SoC and camera were enough to get me to try an iPhone...and it worked. No regrets thus far.

 

[ShintaiDK]

"By the time we get to iPad Pro and start comparing tablets to tablets, we may need to have a discussion about how Twister and Skylake compare."

Seems quite a way up. Also remember FP16 vs FP32.

Physics is outright disappointing for the A9. Caches and memory can only do so much. Its a bit like the Broadwell-C vs Skylake-S case.

 

[dark zero]

"By the time we get to iPad Pro and start comparing tablets to tablets, we may need to have a discussion about how Twister and Skylake compare."

RIP Core M. Intel entered too late in that battle... When a 5 watt chip gives a big war against the 15 watt BIG Core....

So A9X will be definately far more powerful than A9.... Apple did an excellent job, far better than AMD.
I bet that their A9X crushes AMD 8800P on CPU power

 

[paffinity]

Darn MCF!

 

[escrow4]

I'll stick with my non backdoored, non Carrier IQ flip phone with a proud 520MHz single core ARM that isn't always watching and listening to you:

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-34444233

"Dreamy Smurf is the power management tool which means turning your phone on and off without you knowing," he said.

"Nosey Smurf is the 'hot mic' tool. For example if it's in your pocket, [GCHQ] can turn the microphone on and listen to everything that's going on around you - even if your phone is switched off because they've got the other tools for turning it on.

"Tracker Smurf is a geo-location tool which allows [GCHQ] to follow you with a greater precision than you would get from the typical triangulation of cellphone towers."

Why do you think the processor is so good? Facebook? Porn?

 

[witeken]

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9686/the-apple-iphone-6s-and-iphone-6s-plus-review

That SoC is a performance monster!

I'd love to see how this compares to Skylake-Y chips.

If A9 is "a monster", "enormous", "incredible" and other stuff said in the iPhone "sponsored by Apple" 6s review, then I wonder which adjectives exist to properly describe SKL ().

A9 is still no competition for Core m (or Mobile Maxwell on the graphics side).

Also, my calculation of cache http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=37805764&postcount=5390.

 

[Vesku]

If A9 is "a monster", "enormous", "incredible" and other stuff said in the iPhone "sponsored by Apple" 6s review, then I wonder which adjectives exist to properly describe SKL ().

A9 is still no competition for Core m (or Mobile Maxwell on the graphics side).

Also, my calculation of cache http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=37805764&postcount=5390.

Did I miss where SKL is in a phone now? A9 does seem to be pretty lonely at the top of the heap when it comes to phone SoCs. Surprised ZenFone 2 (Intel Z3580) wasn't included in their performance list, Octane v2 score of 6,207 in Anandtech's review.

Their investment in SoC design has certainly worked out well for Apple.

 

[frozentundra123456]

If A9 is "a monster", "enormous", "incredible" and other stuff said in the iPhone "sponsored by Apple" 6s review, then I wonder which adjectives exist to properly describe SKL ().

A9 is still no competition for Core m (or Mobile Maxwell on the graphics side).

Also, my calculation of cache http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=37805764&postcount=5390.

I did not trudge through the full review, as I really have no interest in iphone. I do wonder how much power this chip draws in comparison to atom or core M. But I really see these apple/android benchmarks as an apples to oranges comparison (no pun intended) to x86 chips. I mean, the benchmarks they excel at are probably not optimized for x86, and they cannot run x86 benchmarks at all. So it is difficult to get an exact comparison.

But the problem with intel and phones runs a lot deeper than simple performance. It is mainly a lack of integration, is it not? And the fact that atom performance is not really superior, (or even competitive?), while skylake has strong performance but lacks integration and software support, and intel also I am sure want to charge a premium price. But I see a lot more danger to intel of ARM/Apple encroaching into their x86 domain than of intel taking over any significant part of the phone market.

 

[cytg111]

That SoC is a performance monster!

Thats .. nuts!

 

[StrangerGuy]

If A9 is "a monster", "enormous", "incredible" and other stuff said in the iPhone "sponsored by Apple" 6s review, then I wonder which adjectives exist to properly describe SKL ().

Pot. Kettle. Black? Actually its not because one is of them doesn't blatantly fly an Intel logo around these parts and it's not AT.

 

[DrMrLordX]

It's a fast phone SoC. Cool. Now why is the 6s beating the 6s Plus?

 

[StrangerGuy]

It's a fast phone SoC. Cool. Now why is the 6s beating the 6s Plus?

Less pixels to render on the screen...I think?

 

[Jimzz]

It's a fast phone SoC. Cool. Now why is the 6s beating the 6s Plus?

Smaller screen/pixels would be my guess. Less work to do.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Okay, that makes some sense.

 

[Phynaz]

If A9 is "a monster", "enormous", "incredible" and other stuff said in the iPhone "sponsored by Apple" 6s review, then I wonder which adjectives exist to properly describe SKL ().

A9 is still no competition for Core m (or Mobile Maxwell on the graphics side).

Also, my calculation of cache http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=37805764&postcount=5390.

I expected talk about Anandtech accepting payola in the mobile forum, not in the CPU forum. :\

 

[dave_the_nerd]

I expected talk about Anandtech accepting payola in the mobile forum, not in the CPU forum. :\

Or VC&G, yeah.