Attempting to Clone Hard Drive

chunkeydelight

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Well, its been some time since I've posted to a forum. Usually I'm able to find an answer and not have to worry about bothering too many people over simple problems. Although this one is starting to drive me up a wall.

My father had bought a Dell Dimension 8400 roughly 8 years ago, and now the hard drive (original 160Gb Seagate) is starting to go bad. We had bought a new hard drive (500Gb WD Blue Label). Now my father needs to have the drive cloned instead of just backed up and everything re-installed due to the fact that he's lost a lot of program install discs over the years that he still uses.

Now, I had seen it done before with no issues, and I figured cloning a hard drive wouldn't give me too many issues. Although, whenever I run the cloning (I've been using Clonezilla, attempted Acronis from WD with similar results) it finishes with no errors, but when I remove the Seagate and replace it with the WD it only tells me "Error loading operating system". If I boot the original drive on my computer it boots into Windows XP no problem, although, if I were to attempt to load the clone on my computer it only sits with a blinking cursor.

I've been doing research everywhere. I've loaded the Windows XP disc into the recovery console and ran commands: fixmbr, fixboot, bootcfg. All with no change. I've attempted to fix the MBR through various other means I've found throughout my research. No change.

The closest I've gotten has been when I used Acronis. After the program had completed I hooked the WD back up to the main (sata 0) port it gives me no loading screen or anything it just loads up to a "Windows 95" A:> prompt. It only asks to load a file ("i.e. C:/WINDOWS/COMMAND.BAT") to which I have no idea where to even begin with that one.

Either way, when ever I do finish the cloning I continue in the command line to see if everything copied the way it should, I'm able to see the partition tables and information. If I hook it up to my computer (running Windows 7) it mounts and I'm able to access the files.

I'm going to end this in asking for any other suggestions? Whether it to be a different cloning program or even a simple editing of files. Would I maybe be able to install Windows 7 into the unallocated space and write the Windows XP info into the boot.ini so we still have the choice as to which one we want?

Any help will be much obliged.
Thanks again,
-Chunkeydelight
 

Charlie98

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I recently used Acronis '12 to clone 3 disks over... and was successful in each attempt, even given my noob knowledge.

I booted into the Acronis CD and cloned them over in that fashion... unplugged the old drive, booted right into the new drive no problem.

I wonder... if the old drive is going bad, there may be some corrupt OS data that is getting cloned.
 

philipma1957

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MAKE SURE YOU PUT IN THE DRIVES CORRECTLY!

source is the 160gb target is the 500gb. the new drive will be at 160gb, but the partition can be expanded up to the 500gb with partition

software. This will make a bootable clone.
 
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JimKiler

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Well, its been some time since I've posted to a forum. Usually I'm able to find an answer and not have to worry about bothering too many people over simple problems. Although this one is starting to drive me up a wall.

My father had bought a Dell Dimension 8400 roughly 8 years ago, and now the hard drive (original 160Gb Seagate) is starting to go bad. We had bought a new hard drive (500Gb WD Blue Label). Now my father needs to have the drive cloned instead of just backed up and everything re-installed due to the fact that he's lost a lot of program install discs over the years that he still uses.

Now, I had seen it done before with no issues, and I figured cloning a hard drive wouldn't give me too many issues. Although, whenever I run the cloning (I've been using Clonezilla, attempted Acronis from WD with similar results) it finishes with no errors, but when I remove the Seagate and replace it with the WD it only tells me "Error loading operating system". If I boot the original drive on my computer it boots into Windows XP no problem, although, if I were to attempt to load the clone on my computer it only sits with a blinking cursor.

I've been doing research everywhere. I've loaded the Windows XP disc into the recovery console and ran commands: fixmbr, fixboot, bootcfg. All with no change. I've attempted to fix the MBR through various other means I've found throughout my research. No change.

The closest I've gotten has been when I used Acronis. After the program had completed I hooked the WD back up to the main (sata 0) port it gives me no loading screen or anything it just loads up to a "Windows 95" A:> prompt. It only asks to load a file ("i.e. C:/WINDOWS/COMMAND.BAT") to which I have no idea where to even begin with that one.

Either way, when ever I do finish the cloning I continue in the command line to see if everything copied the way it should, I'm able to see the partition tables and information. If I hook it up to my computer (running Windows 7) it mounts and I'm able to access the files.

I'm going to end this in asking for any other suggestions? Whether it to be a different cloning program or even a simple editing of files. Would I maybe be able to install Windows 7 into the unallocated space and write the Windows XP info into the boot.ini so we still have the choice as to which one we want?

Any help will be much obliged.
Thanks again,
-Chunkeydelight

This is weird, so your Win XP will not fully but does get to the command line promt. when you are at the command promt can you change drives to the new HD?
 

corkyg

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For best results with Acronis TI, clone using bootable Rescue Media.

Stay in command - make manual selections. Clone proportionally.

Should be no problem. I do it frequently with XP, 7 and 8.

Check box to turn system off when done. Then swap the drives. Remove the old source, boot to the new drive.

If you do it with bootable media, the Command prompt never enters into it and you have a much better GUI all the way.
 
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jkauff

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I only have experience with Acronis, but you need to leave both drives connected until the cloning process is totally finished (Acronis will boot to its own OS in the middle of the cloning). The software will make your old drive unbootable when the cloning completes. As mentioned above, make sure you select the correct drives for Source and Target.
 

compcons

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The "no operating system" error makes me think the master boot record is hosed up. You can boot from a floppy or USB drive and do an fdisk /mbr on the new drive. The prompt makes me think that you have a floppy in or some other boot drive plugged in somewhere. From the command prompt, you could do a dir and see what it is. The cloned drive should have a winnt directory and a program files and documents and settings if it is cloned.

Finally, there is a trick to fixing Xp from an xp cd. Boot to the disk but do not hit f2 for recovery. Once booted to the cd, pick install (not repair) and eventually it should say something like "i found an installation, do you want to repair it?" pick that option. Google repair xp using cd for more detailed directions and make sure this is right. If you cant fix it this way, it is well and truly hosed. The upside is that if you screw it up, you can simply create a clone again.

EH
 

kbp

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What if.... You boot his old drive in your computer and run a Windows disk Image/Backup. (Backup to your HD) - Remove old HD.
Then put new HD insert Win disk and run a disk recovery using the Win Image/Backup you created.
 

chunkeydelight

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So I was successfully able to boot into his Windows XP via My computer. (I had used the Clonezilla disk for the command line. sudo fdisk /dev/sda .... p (to print partition table)... discovered that the 1st out of 4 partitions was flagged as the boot partition. (I assumed that was where it should be since the original hard drive had that as the boot partition.) flagged the partition with the Windows XP partition... w to write changes to disk and reboot)

My only problem now is that when I re-attached the drive to my father's computer, it starts to load, I see the Windows XP loading screen start to fade in but then it stops and blue screens. When I try to boot Windows XP into Safe Mode, I see it load files up to "agpCPQ.sys" and then it proceeds to give me the BSoD with the error code being 0x0000007B.

Would anybody have a suggestion to further assist in my desperate time of need?

Again, Much Obliged,
-Chunkeydelight
 

chunkeydelight

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May 4, 2008
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Well. I believe this will be the end of this post. As I previously posted I was successfully able to load Windows XP on my computer but NOT my father's Dell. I figure I should be kind enough to update the conclusion of this little adventure.

From the beginning:
I cloned the hard drive using Clonezilla.
Couldn't get Windows XP to load.
Moved boot flag with 'fdisk' in linux-command-line to Windows XP Partition.
Started to boot, jumped to BSoD.
Double-checked bios settings (system default for drive access "RAID if not/AHCI".. I set to "RAID if not/ATA" before any of the cloning had begun)
Changed back to system defaults, Loaded into Windows XP no issue.
 
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