I think whoever said that about an ati card should drink a tall glass of shut the hell up! If he likes ati let him get ati, dont bash them. They make the market better. Besides, ati does have a better igp than nvidia..... that is why their graphics look better, but nvidia is faster. So depending on what you want...... me, I want both... I am thinking about making a hybrid card ... maybe putting the igp from an ati onto a geforce card to see if it will work. Hmmmm, frankenstein!!!