Atty's GTI

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Atty

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this

prefer those as well. Prefer the look of the 18s as well. 19 start to get donky
I would never go 19'' on my car.

I agree I like the look of the silver too but the gun metal looks slick as well. I'll probably do silver, I need to photoshop them onto my car though to see.

I'm looking at doing engine mounts right now, simple Stage 1 mounts that are their to support the bolt on modifications I have now as the stock mounts are completely geared toward comfort and don't last very long with spirited driving under normal power levels. Researching these heavily. I want to limit vibrations as much as possible.

A company called BFI makes some pretty slick Stage 1 mounts. Said to be perfect for daily driving with the power I am and will be making down the road. Stage 2 mounts and up are really more geared toward AutoX and track days.
 
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cbrsurfr

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These? The second ones are 19's (I think the first are 18's) but I will be keeping my 18'' wheel size that I have now.

My reasons for getting them are so I get a slightly wider tire (without any fitment issues) and I've never been a fan of the stock wheels. They are also as heavy as they come.

Thoughts?

E: Yes, same wheel, different color. Can't decide.

Those look like my Enkei summer setup:


2012-08-07 10.28.24 by JJR329, on Flickr


2012-08-06 21.49.58 by JJR329, on Flickr

18x8 wheel with 235/40 tires. Rubs a little under certain conditions but I'm lowered and haven't done the screw mod yet.
 

Atty

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And most people say suspension before wheels, otherwise it looks stupid.

I like BSH for mounts: http://www.bshspeedshop.com/bshstore/

I have their pendulum mount and the torque mount insert.
Welp. I might do lowering springs first. I don't know. I really don't want to hurt ride quality, so I would need quality coil overs, and that would cost $$$$. Lowering springs would give me an inch drop, maintain OEM ride quality, and cost $250ish.

Also, I've driven pretty hard off the line and all around the driving range, never had torque steer.
 
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JCH13

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Welp. I might do lowering springs first. I don't know. I really don't want to hurt ride quality, so I would need quality coil overs, and that would cost $$$$. Lowering springs would give me an inch drop, maintain OEM ride quality, and cost $250ish.

Also, I've driven pretty hard off the line and all around the driving range, never had torque steer.

That's because a GTI doesn't have much torque.

:awe:
 

vshah

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It helps control the torque difference between the two front wheels, which helps limit torque steer. A little.

at the same time it allows you to put down more torque total...which can lead to more torque steer.

the effects of an lsd have as much to do with how the suspension is set up as with the lsd itself.
 

JCH13

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at the same time it allows you to put down more torque total...which can lead to more torque steer.

the effects of an lsd have as much to do with how the suspension is set up as with the lsd itself.

I am not disagreeing with you, merely stating how an LSD can help limit torque steer.

With a small step up in tire width, 215 to 225, I've noticed very little torque steer in my MS3 on decent pavement, and it probably has around 300 lb-ft of torque. I only notice torque steer if one wheel loses a considerable amount of grip from either really rough pavement or something slippery on the road (sand, leaves, etc).
 

Atty

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I sit around 300ft/lbs of torque as well and I too have only seen or experienced torque steer when I've lost traction on one side. I remember coming into an empty parking lot shortly after my tune and I put my foot hard down. My driver window was down and I could hear and feel the tire on that side lose trip. Steering wheel jerked. Wasn't the best feeling.
 

T2urtle

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@Atty, is yours a DSG?

been thinking of getting a DSG mk6 and getting the DSG flash. But didn't see too much for the benefits for a DD and possibly a auto-x or two.

i'm thinking the flash is more or less like old school shift kits, but then i think about it, its not a normal trans so i have no clue what it can do.
 

Atty

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@Atty, is yours a DSG?

been thinking of getting a DSG mk6 and getting the DSG flash. But didn't see too much for the benefits for a DD and possibly a auto-x or two.

i'm thinking the flash is more or less like old school shift kits, but then i think about it, its not a normal trans so i have no clue what it can do.
I wouldn't suggest a DSG flash. The people who have had it done have gone back to stock. An ECU flash is great but DSG flash isn't needed.

I've never had an issue with my DSG in manual mode. Normal Drive is a bit annoying but in manual mode with either the paddles or the shifter, its a dream. Sport mode is just insane all power all the time so I never use it.

I would absolutely get a DSG but I wouldn't worry about flashing the DSG.
 

cbrsurfr

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@Atty, is yours a DSG?

been thinking of getting a DSG mk6 and getting the DSG flash. But didn't see too much for the benefits for a DD and possibly a auto-x or two.

i'm thinking the flash is more or less like old school shift kits, but then i think about it, its not a normal trans so i have no clue what it can do.

Totally unnecessary on a DD. Only needed in specific circumstances for heavily modified cars like needing to raise the limiter, raise launch control, eliminate auto shifting, etc. Save that money and put it towards a bigger turbo or something else. I've done some auto-x and over a dozen track days with the stock DSG and it's been superb.
 

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To chime in even more, I'm a bit hesitant flashing a $10,000 transmission (how much do we love a $1,500 option costing $10,000 in parts). Especially when you consider its own ECU (mechatronics unit) is specifically matted to each individual car. You can't just buy one off your local tuner website, you've got to have VW build one and configure it.
 

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To chime in even more, I'm a bit hesitant flashing a $10,000 transmission (how much do we love a $1,500 option costing $10,000 in parts). Especially when you consider its own ECU (mechatronics unit) is specifically matted to each individual car. You can't just buy one off your local tuner website, you've got to have VW build one and configure it.

How true is that? When they first came out I would agree. But knowing VAG and how most cars are like legos. I think its not a 10k replacement anymore.
 

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To chime in even more, I'm a bit hesitant flashing a $10,000 transmission (how much do we love a $1,500 option costing $10,000 in parts). Especially when you consider its own ECU (mechatronics unit) is specifically matted to each individual car. You can't just buy one off your local tuner website, you've got to have VW build one and configure it.

Lol, I remember the mechatronics recall in 08. They actually overnighted them to Germany to get reprogrammed then had them shipped back or something.
 

Atty

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How true is that? When they first came out I would agree. But knowing VAG and how most cars are like legos. I think its not a 10k replacement anymore.
I spoke to a service rep the other day when I was in for a software upgrade, he said he priced out a Jetta DSG replacement and the total was just over $8,000 out of warranty. Do they really cost that much? Probably not. Will they charge that much for them? Absolutely.
 

T2urtle

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$8k gets u a brand new trans.

Its not insane compared to a normal trans. I've seen heard $4-8k for a brand new normal trans.

My thoughts would be if the DSG, how much cheaper is it to do a manual swap at that point.
 

Atty

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Just picked up a gently used downpipe. The biggest stock part holding back performance is the downpipe for my car. New high flow pipe with 200cell cat ready to go on! Once I do that I'll be flashing to Stage 2 software.

Can't wait!

Next up is an intercooler. I'm already heat soaking at my current power levels and its not even into the hottest part of summer.
 

AMCRambler

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Just picked up a gently used downpipe. The biggest stock part holding back performance is the downpipe for my car. New high flow pipe with 200cell cat ready to go on! Once I do that I'll be flashing to Stage 2 software.

Can't wait!

Next up is an intercooler. I'm already heat soaking at my current power levels and its not even into the hottest part of summer.

Help me out here. Down pipe is the exhaust pipe coming off the turbo? Not a turbo guy so not familiar with the term.

What does an upgraded intercooler cost on these cars? Are they easy to swap in? Doing the work yourself?
 

Atty

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Help me out here. Down pipe is the exhaust pipe coming off the turbo? Not a turbo guy so not familiar with the term.

What does an upgraded intercooler cost on these cars? Are they easy to swap in? Doing the work yourself?
Yes. It bolts directly to the turbo and then to the mid pipe, which connects to the catback system.

Upgraded intercooler costs anywhere between $250 and $900 depending on brand name and design. The most efficient for the money are in the $400-600 range new or less used.

Easy to swap in? Eh, if you think taking off the front bumper is easy. Most people who do it themselves claim 3-4 hours for completion.
 
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