Audi A5, buy or lease?

[HAL9000]

Are BMW's and Audis really luxury cars in the US?

 

[sdifox]

That's bizzare I've always heard the complete opposite. German cars an reliability are synonyms where I'm from

Compared to Jags, yeah :biggrin:

 

[HAL9000]

Compared to Jags, yeah :biggrin:

True

 

[DaTT]

Audi's don't depreciate nearly as much as other cars, and given that it's got german reliability behind I'd say buy.

Also, an A5 isn't a luxury car. It's just a car.

A5 is an A4 with 2 doors. Would consider them to be sport luxury.

 

[HAL9000]

A5 is an A4 with 2 doors. Would consider them to be sport luxury.

For me a luxury car is:

A Rolls Royce, A Maybach, A Bently or slightly less so, but still: An Audi S8, a BMW 7Li, a Jaguar XJR, a Mercedes S65 and similar.

 

[DaTT]

For me a luxury car is:

A Rolls Royce, A Maybach, A Bently or slightly less so, but still: An Audi S8, a BMW 7Li, a Jaguar XJR, a Mercedes S65 and similar.

Your standards are way high. There are plenty of luxury cars that aren't in that price range.

And why would you choose the Audi S8 and not the A8L like you chose the BMW 7 Li?

 

[HAL9000]

Your standards are way high. There are plenty of luxury cars that aren't in that price range.

Like what?

And why would you choose the Audi S8 and not the A8L like you chose the BMW 7 Li?

Damn I knew there was a long wheelbase S8, but couldn't remember what it was called.

 

[DaTT]

Like what?



Damn I knew there was a long wheelbase S8, but couldn't remember what it was called.

I don't think there is a current S8...

Here's a luxury car in Canadian dollars..

http://hyundaicanada.com/Pages/showroom/showroom.aspx?model=Equus

 

[HAL9000]

I don't think there is a current S8...

Here's a luxury car in Canadian dollars..

http://hyundaicanada.com/Pages/showroom/showroom.aspx?model=Equus

I think the term "Luxury Hyundai" Is an oxymoron, but I'm biased I hate them intensly.

Shame there's no current S8, I used to love that car.

 

[DaTT]

I think the term "Luxury Hyundai" Is an oxymoron, but I'm biased I hate them intensly.

Shame there's no current S8, I used to love that car.

Those are not the word of a car enthusiast. Hyundai has come a long way. It is a Luxury car and it is competing with the big boys at a fraction of the price.

 

[HAL9000]

Those are not the word of a car enthusiast. Hyundai has come a long way. It is a Luxury car and it is competing with the big boys at a fraction of the price.

Don't get me wrong it's a lot better than it used to be, but that's like saying "My herpes is a lot better than it used to be"

 

[DaTT]

Don't get me wrong it's a lot better than it used to be, but that's like saying "My herpes is a lot better than it used to be"

You are very misinformed and closed minded. This thread has been derailed.

 

[Hammyton]

LoL now I just need to figure out whether to wait for the 2013 model or try to get the 2012 at a discount. Anyone have any experience with the 2013 model? I heard the only differences are in the electronic display and much else is the same.

 

[jlee]

For me a luxury car is:

A Rolls Royce, A Maybach, A Bently or slightly less so, but still: An Audi S8, a BMW 7Li, a Jaguar XJR, a Mercedes S65 and similar.

For a guy with such low standards for power, you have awfully high standards for luxury.

Those are not the word of a car enthusiast. Hyundai has come a long way. It is a Luxury car and it is competing with the big boys at a fraction of the price.

I put ~1400 miles on a Genesis sedan a couple of years ago - unfortunately it was a V6 model, but it was definitely a nice car.

 

[HAL9000]

For a guy with such low standards for power, you have awfully high standards for luxury.

I just think Luxury cars need to be luxurious, a BMW 1 series is not luxurious, neither is an Audi A3 or a Mercedes A Class.

 

[The-Noid]

We don't have an executive class in the US.

Goes from normal to luxury. Even Buicks consider themselves luxury cars in the US.

Having an executive class would fix a lot of problems.

 

[HAL9000]

We don't have an executive class in the US.

Goes from normal to luxury. Even Buicks consider themselves luxury cars in the US.

Having an executive class would fix a lot of problems.

Surely an A4 or a 5 Series is an executive class car?

 

[sdifox]

We don't have an executive class in the US.

Goes from normal to luxury. Even Buicks consider themselves luxury cars in the US.

Having an executive class would fix a lot of problems.

Surely an A4 or a 5 Series is an executive class car?

He just told you there is no such classification in US. Nor in Canada for that matter.

 

[HAL9000]

He just told you there is no such classification in US. Nor in Canada for that matter.

Crazy. Makes no sense at all.

 

[KIAman]

After buying new German car, I would buy new the same as I did before (in cash). My philosophy (and it has held true so far) about cars is that as long as you maintain it and don't drive like you hate the car, it will last longer than your desire to keep it.

Edit: And if you're considering a car greater than $40k range, you SHOULD be well prepared for maintenance costs else you should reconsider your purchase to something cheaper. This is not elitist, this is simply practicality. Why purchase something you can barely afford to keep?

 

[Arkaign]

If you can easily afford it, and you really love it above all other possibilities, then go ahead and jump in.

Fwiw, I think the A5/S5 is the best looking Audi out there along with the obvious R8. I'm still not really sold on them being worth a damn after a few years though, just like most Mercedes/BMW these days. They know their prime market of people who would never buy a used one, and they buy/lease a new one every year or two.

Probably irrelevant but I'll say anyway :

The A5 is pretty damned boring. The S5, reasonably equipped, is ~$60k. My money for a german two door would never go to Audi. In 5 years that thing is gonna be 1/3rd the value or even less, in 10 years it'll be lucky to still exist at all. I keep my cars long-term, or hand them down to family.

$60k will buy a Porsche Cayman S. It's intense, and a world better to drive due to the 2900lb weight and Porsche emphasis on handling and balance. The S5 weighs about a thousand pounds more, and really all you get is some rear seats for amputees.

 

[DaTT]

If you can easily afford it, and you really love it above all other possibilities, then go ahead and jump in.

Fwiw, I think the A5/S5 is the best looking Audi out there along with the obvious R8. I'm still not really sold on them being worth a damn after a few years though, just like most Mercedes/BMW these days. They know their prime market of people who would never buy a used one, and they buy/lease a new one every year or two.

Probably irrelevant but I'll say anyway :

The A5 is pretty damned boring. The S5, reasonably equipped, is ~$60k. My money for a german two door would never go to Audi. In 5 years that thing is gonna be 1/3rd the value or even less, in 10 years it'll be lucky to still exist at all. I keep my cars long-term, or hand them down to family.

$60k will buy a Porsche Cayman S. It's intense, and a world better to drive due to the 2900lb weight and Porsche emphasis on handling and balance. The S5 weighs about a thousand pounds more, and really all you get is some rear seats for amputees.

I don't know if there is something wrong with me, but I have never been excited about Porsche. They make great vehicles, but they lack in styling. I find them to be extremely boring to look at (save the Carrera GT of course).

 

[JulesMaximus]

I drive too many miles for leasing to be an option for me and there is no way would I want to rely on a German car (especially an Audi) as a daily driver for the amount of miles I drive annually.

 

[JS80]

That's bizzare I've always heard the complete opposite. German cars an reliability are synonyms where I'm from

That's probably because your benchmark for reliability is Jaguar

 

[JS80]

Are BMW's and Audis really luxury cars in the US?

What do you consider Honda Civics? Horse and carriage?