AUTO OC IS A FACT

[McArra]

And yes is the MoBo for all of those who said it wasn't, Tony was completly right.

TIP: turn off NV/ATI Speed Up in the hidden bios settingsas it ocs most cards gpu

Found it here: LINK

 

[Azndude51]

Most people weren't saying it wasnt the mobo, they were saying that it wasn't the "Aggressive Timing"

 

[Viper96720]

I wonder if all nf3 boards has that. WOuld be bad if it just overclocked nvidia cards. Would make it seem nvidia cards work better with an nf3 board than another chipset.

 

[Fenuxx]

No, in fact I did isolate the setting as the "Aggressive Timing" feature. For the auto OC feature, where in my mobo, you get the options of like "Captain", "Sergeant", etc. Is only for the CPU, and I have never had that enabled. This further concludes that it in fact was the "Aggressive Timing" feature in the BIOS, not the auto OC

 

[Megatomic]

My NF3-250Gb does not auto-overclock my X800 Pro. I use Radclocker to do that.

 

[Fenuxx]

Originally posted by: Megatomic
My NF3-250Gb does not auto-overclock my X800 Pro. I use Radclocker to do that.

That's because you have an NVIDIA based mobo, and an ATI based videocard.

Obviously, NVIDIA would want their cards to perform better on their mobos, like ATI would with theirs.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: geforcetony
No, in fact I did isolate the setting as the "Aggressive Timing" feature. For the auto OC feature, where in my mobo, you get the options of like "Captain", "Sergeant", etc. Is only for the CPU, and I have never had that enabled. This further concludes that it in fact was the "Aggressive Timing" feature in the BIOS, not the auto OC

No, it's the "hidden" BIOS settings, as I understand it from reading the online guide. Something like hit Shift+F2, ALT+F3 or something to enable access to it. There's a setting for ATI/NV cards. "Aggressive Timing" sounds to me like it should only apply to the RAM or system-bus clocks. Then again, I don't own one, so take this all with a grain of salt.

But if you've never actually seen/accessed the ATI/NV-specific video-card OC settings on that board, it does tend to further suggest that MSI's mobo is auto-OC'ing video cards by default, which isn't exactly a good thing.

 

[Fenuxx]

Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
No, it's the "hidden" BIOS settings, as I understand it from reading the online guide. Something like hit Shift+F2, ALT+F3 or something to enable access to it. There's a setting for ATI/NV cards. "Aggressive Timing" sounds to me like it should only apply to the RAM or system-bus clocks. Then again, I don't own one, so take this all with a grain of salt.

But if you've never actually seen/accessed the ATI/NV-specific video-card OC settings on that board, it does tend to further suggest that MSI's mobo is auto-OC'ing video cards by default, which isn't exactly a good thing.

I didn't hit the special key combo, as I in fact have no idea what that even is. As I said, I did in fact isolate that "Aggressive Timing" setting by disabling it, and ONLY it, going into Windows, and low and behold, 350\500 clocks for the video card. Turn it back on, and I get 374\535. This was the only thing I changed in the BIOS to make sure that it was in fact this "feature" that was doing it. I also believe that it isn't set at that factory default, as I purchased my mobo\CPU\HSF from Monarch Computer, and they are supposedly supposed to "Test and Tweak" the configuration before they send it to you. At the time I ordered the combo, I was still running my GeForce FX 5700U video card, and this card didn't run out of spec, as it ran at BFG's default 475\450. This leads me to also believe that it is an nForce3 250\Ultra and GeForce 6-Series thing, and not just with every video card. Hope this sheds some more light on this situation.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Well, just to ensure factual data, can you do us a minor favor Tony, and check the guide linked to in the first post, and check out those "hidden" BIOS settings, and see if there is in fact a seperate ATI/NV speed-up setting, and what happens when you disable it, and then seperately test enabling and disabling the "Aggressive timing" setting? I'm personally curious, and I'd just like to have accurate data so I don't pass on wrong data in the future. Thanks.

Edit: I double-checked info in the linked guide in the OP's post:

TIP: In the bios press and hold Shift+F2 and then press ALT+F3 to unlock "hidden" features within the BIOS
TIP: Dissable Agressive Timings in Cell Menu if you're going to overclock
TIP: turn off NV/ATI Speed Up in the hidden bios settingsas it ocs most cards gpu

 

[Fenuxx]

Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
Well, just to ensure factual data, can you do us a minor favor Tony, and check the guide linked to in the first post, and check out those "hidden" BIOS settings, and see if there is in fact a seperate ATI/NV speed-up setting, and what happens when you disable it, and then seperately test enabling and disabling the "Aggressive timing" setting? I'm personally curious, and I'd just like to have accurate data so I don't pass on wrong data in the future. Thanks.

No prob. As soon as I have a chance, I'll get right on it. It'll probably have to be tomorrow though, as I am quite busy at the moment

 

[MDE]

Are these hidden BIOS settings just for the MSI board? If not I'll take a look on my Epox 9NDA3+\6800GT when I get home.

 

[Viper96720]

Maybe aggresive timing is activating that hidden setting NV/ATI Speed Up. It sure does sound like it and is not good. More I hear abut MSI the less I'm starting to like them.
Anything that does overclocking without your knowing is bad. You could get stability problems and have no idea the overclock maybe the cause.