OP -
You do realize that the soldiers in Avatar are not part of any military, but work directly for a mining company called SecFor? Right? I wonder if your convictions apply equally for corporations.
Wow thanks so much, you're actually the first person to say something like that.
all I have to say is good luck telling your CO to piss off and you aren't doing something because you feel it's wrong/illegal.
all I have to say is good luck telling your CO to piss off and you aren't doing something because you feel it's wrong/illegal.
Wow thanks so much, you're actually the first person to say something like that.
No he isn't, but you already knew this. Like me, he probably read your post and thought "this guy is a motherfucking idiot. I can't believe he's in the military". Then read some replies in this thread, including a few more of yours. At which point he certainly thought "This guy IS A MOTHERFUCKING IDIOT. A MOTHERFUCKING GOD DAMN MINDLESS IDIOT". His thoughts would be correct.
Let me lay it out really fucking simply for you. Corporation goes to planet with an indigenous human-ish species. Corporation finds a metal that is very valuable (NEVER ONCE DID IT SAY THAT METAL COULD SAVE HUMAN LIVES, YOU ASSUMED THAT). Corporation realizes there is a species here that does not like the humans destroying their planet, which is EXACTLY what is occurring. As you saw in the movie, all those tree's that were destroyed was that species history and ancestors. The movie made it VERY clear that they weren't just fucking trees.
With all of that said, who was in the moral right? The species that had lived there for generations and were being told they had to leave and have part of their heritage/culture/ancestry destroyed. Or the corporation that was there to make a profit and basically said, move or we'll fucking move you.
I think anyone with half a fucking brain can realize the humans were in the moral wrong, thus the point of the entire movie. But you sir are dumber than a baby monkey. You are a MORON. I hope you never become an officer in the US military, we already have enough problems. We don't need some dumbshit like you. Go die in a fucking fire.
Are you fucking daft? That is exactly what any soldier should do and most are honest enough to do it too. This isn't about some tattle tale bullsheit with bullies slapping your stupid arse (trying to keep this realistic to something you no doubt have experienced), it's about law and conduct.
Anyway, it's going to go to court and there will be severe punishments for everyone involved.
If there is one soldier in any group that feels that he should not rat out his fellow privates when they have done wrong, he'll end up dead or discharged.
There is no in between and no room for liars or twatters, you do as you are FUCKING TOLD and if shit happens you report EXACTLY what happened.
The code of honor has to do with actions done right, not keeping mistakes hidden.
You seem pretty pussified to me. That said I'd probably take that bullet delivered or a knife.
Most in war that goes bad never makes it to trial...same in politics though.
In a field of battle you have be ingrained to think alike. Most soldiers aren't big thinkers.
You tell your CO you will absolutely not follow his orders chances are some E1 is going to pump a load into you first.
Throw your ass into the desert or woods or water. America is not sending out a search/forensics team...
Oh, and if not for American and the beautiful being Blair being too fucked up in the head to NOT jerk off in the general direction of Iraq...
Well, i've been to three war zones, all three were NATO missions and all of them initiated by the US.
Keep your dicks in your pants you neutered twats and perhaps us Brits won't be the first to go into a FOURTH war zone (we were first, TFB, in Kosovo, in Afghanistan and in Iraq).
Be a good little yeehaw boi now and go pray.
I got a problem here...
You are telling me what happens in a war zone?
You are telling me, a Captain of the SAS what is what in the military?
I know you suffer from delusions of grandeur but fucking please, you're making a fool out of yourself now.
NO GOOD SOLDIER WILL EVER FOLLOW AN UNLAWFUL ORDER, PERIOD!
Are we fucking clear?
WOW SO YOU BRITS JUST GIVE IN?
Why don't you tell the best to fuck off you aren't going to do it?
I will admit I think we are on a fail train esp pumping too much fake money into this economy and offering too many do overs for violent crimes then crucifying our wealthy
Sez Captain Underpants of the Lager Regiment.
Son, it's extra stout or nothing, lager is for polishing my boots.
I am definitely not your son and for all of the bluster you keep posting here you have not demonstrated one bit of knowledge about the British military nor the actuality of operations in Iraq, Afghanistan or anywhere else.
In fact, the very few times you made specific statements, rather than just complain about the U.S. military, you were dead wrong.
Watching old war movies while swilling warm beer may give you a thrill up your leg, but you should be careful that no one who has seen service in the Regiment holds you accountable for such self congratulatory nonsense and misrepresentation.
No he isn't, but you already knew this. Like me, he probably read your post and thought "this guy is a motherfucking idiot. I can't believe he's in the military". Then read some replies in this thread, including a few more of yours. At which point he certainly thought "This guy IS A MOTHERFUCKING IDIOT. A MOTHERFUCKING GOD DAMN MINDLESS IDIOT". His thoughts would be correct.
Let me lay it out really fucking simply for you. Corporation goes to planet with an indigenous human-ish species. Corporation finds a metal that is very valuable (NEVER ONCE DID IT SAY THAT METAL COULD SAVE HUMAN LIVES, YOU ASSUMED THAT). Corporation realizes there is a species here that does not like the humans destroying their planet, which is EXACTLY what is occurring. As you saw in the movie, all those tree's that were destroyed was that species history and ancestors. The movie made it VERY clear that they weren't just fucking trees.
With all of that said, who was in the moral right? The species that had lived there for generations and were being told they had to leave and have part of their heritage/culture/ancestry destroyed. Or the corporation that was there to make a profit and basically said, move or we'll fucking move you.
I think anyone with half a fucking brain can realize the humans were in the moral wrong, thus the point of the entire movie. But you sir are dumber than a baby monkey. You are a MORON. I hope you never become an officer in the US military, we already have enough problems. We don't need some dumbshit like you. Go die in a fucking fire.
That. Was. OWNAGE. I read the OP and just left because of the idiocy, came back and read this, OP = OWNED. God, can I have your children Cuda?
Of course you are not my son, if i had you as a son i'd be a worthless parent and i'm not.
You could ask any of the older posters here regarding missions that i have told them about that could later be read in the paper, obviously i can't tell anyone anything before the order for information to be released, it has happened that i have revealed more than i had intended which showed up a few months later though.
I am not complaining about the US military as a whole but it does bug me that there are men on 12 month duty who never leave the camp site, fucking guess why.
Mostly it's leadership bullsheit and most of all the idiotic decision to abandon the win in Afghanistan to make it into something that cannot possibly be won anymore. Not without 80% civilian casualties, i can stomach that but can you and those like you?
Believe what you want, you do not matter to anyone but yourself, those who i consider my friends (and yes, there are some on this forum) know very well who i am.
There is not one person here that has done service with the Task Force Black, Special Air Service, i would know because if there were, i'd be his commanding officer you stupid twat.
Do you ever get tired of making a fool out of yourself? If not, please continue, it amuses this Captain to see a retard trying to climb up and falling back down every time.
I didn't read this entire thread because, well, it's long, but I just got back from the movie and well.. correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they even state that the military in the movie was a bunch of ex-military/paramilitary mercenaries and not the actual army? Which makes this thread.. well.. moot.
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That has been said many times. The OP glances over such facts, ignores them, and retorts with completely hilarious arguments that are most definitely grounded in the opposite of fact.
(Does that make enough sense to you? Even if you are aweflyhigh said:- If like most people are saying, and the soldiers represented were in fact mercenaries, they are still Marines. U.S. Army personnel are regulated within the Uniform Code of Military Justice for their entire lives, retired or not. You are a Marine for life and if anything, if they are mercenaries, we should be even more mad that they are disgracing the corps like that.
, you are still held responsible under the military's Uniform Code of Military Justice. Make sense? Ok?)TheVrolok said:ex-military/paramilitary mercenaries
These are just SOME laws mandated in the UCMJ (that we established still has to be followed after leaving the Marine/military). They do not mention the lawfulness or unlawfulness of an order. These are to be followed whether an order is unlawful or lawful. They were broken.weflyhigh said:895. ARTICLE 95. RESISTANCE, BREACH OF ARREST, AND ESCAPE
Any person subject to this chapter who resists apprehension or breaks arrest or who escapes from custody shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.896. ARTICLE 96. RELEASING PRISONER WITHOUT PROPER AUTHORITY
Any person subject to this chapter who, without proper authority, releases any prisoner committed to his charge, or who through neglect or design suffers any such prisoner to escape, shall be punished as a court-martial may direct, whether or not the prisoner was committed in strict compliance with law.899. ARTICLE 99. MISBEHAVIOR BEFORE THE ENEMY
Any person subject to this chapter who before or in the presence of the enemy--
(1) runs away;
(2) shamefully abandons, surrenders, or delivers up any command, unit, place, or military property which it is his duty to defend;
(3) through disobedience, neglect, or intentional misconduct endangers the safety of any such command, unit, place, or military property;
(4) casts away his arms or ammunition;
(5) is guilty of cowardly conduct;
(6) quits his place of duty to plunder or pillage;
(7) causes false alarms in any command, unit, or place under control of the armed forces;
(8) willfully fails to do his utmost to encounter, engage, capture, or destroy any enemy troops, combatants, vessels, aircraft, or any other thing, which it is his duty so to encounter, engage, capture, or destroy; or
(9) does not afford all practicable relief and assistance to any troops, combatants, vessels, or aircraft of the armed forces belonging to the United States or their allies when engaged in battle;
shall be punished by death or such punishment as a court- martial may direct.904. ARTICLE 104. AIDING THE ENEMY
Any person who--
(1) aids, or attempts to aid, the enemy with arms, ammunition, supplies, money, or other things; or
(2) without proper authority, knowingly harbors or [protects or gives intelligence to or communicates or corresponds with or holds any intercourse with the enemy, either directly or indirectly;
shall suffer death or such other punishment as a court-martial or military commission may direct.
Not without 80% civilian casualties, i can stomach that but can you and those like you?
Of course you are not my son, if i had you as a son i'd be a worthless parent and i'm not.
You could ask any of the older posters here regarding missions that i have told them about that could later be read in the paper, obviously i can't tell anyone anything before the order for information to be released, it has happened that i have revealed more than i had intended which showed up a few months later though.
I am not complaining about the US military as a whole but it does bug me that there are men on 12 month duty who never leave the camp site, fucking guess why.
Mostly it's leadership bullsheit and most of all the idiotic decision to abandon the win in Afghanistan to make it into something that cannot possibly be won anymore. Not without 80% civilian casualties, i can stomach that but can you and those like you?
Believe what you want, you do not matter to anyone but yourself, those who i consider my friends (and yes, there are some on this forum) know very well who i am.
There is not one person here that has done service with the Task Force Black, Special Air Service, i would know because if there were, i'd be his commanding officer you stupid twat.
Do you ever get tired of making a fool out of yourself? If not, please continue, it amuses this Captain to see a retard trying to climb up and falling back down every time.