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SagaLore

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OP -

You do realize that the soldiers in Avatar are not part of any military, but work directly for a mining company called SecFor? Right? I wonder if your convictions apply equally for corporations.
 

weflyhigh

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OP -

You do realize that the soldiers in Avatar are not part of any military, but work directly for a mining company called SecFor? Right? I wonder if your convictions apply equally for corporations.

Wow thanks so much, you're actually the first person to say something like that.
 

alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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all I have to say is good luck telling your CO to piss off and you aren't doing something because you feel it's wrong/illegal.
 

Regs

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all I have to say is good luck telling your CO to piss off and you aren't doing something because you feel it's wrong/illegal.

Under the US Military Code you are to do precisely that. Or, you can end up being court marshaled like half the MP's and guards in Guantanamo.
 
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all I have to say is good luck telling your CO to piss off and you aren't doing something because you feel it's wrong/illegal.

Are you fucking daft? That is exactly what any soldier should do and most are honest enough to do it too. This isn't about some tattle tale bullsheit with bullies slapping your stupid arse (trying to keep this realistic to something you no doubt have experienced), it's about law and conduct.

Anyway, it's going to go to court and there will be severe punishments for everyone involved.

If there is one soldier in any group that feels that he should not rat out his fellow privates when they have done wrong, he'll end up dead or discharged.

There is no in between and no room for liars or twatters, you do as you are FUCKING TOLD and if shit happens you report EXACTLY what happened.

The code of honor has to do with actions done right, not keeping mistakes hidden.
 

Cuda1447

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Wow thanks so much, you're actually the first person to say something like that.

No he isn't, but you already knew this. Like me, he probably read your post and thought "this guy is a motherfucking idiot. I can't believe he's in the military". Then read some replies in this thread, including a few more of yours. At which point he certainly thought "This guy IS A MOTHERFUCKING IDIOT. A MOTHERFUCKING GOD DAMN MINDLESS IDIOT". His thoughts would be correct.


Let me lay it out really fucking simply for you. Corporation goes to planet with an indigenous human-ish species. Corporation finds a metal that is very valuable (NEVER ONCE DID IT SAY THAT METAL COULD SAVE HUMAN LIVES, YOU ASSUMED THAT). Corporation realizes there is a species here that does not like the humans destroying their planet, which is EXACTLY what is occurring. As you saw in the movie, all those tree's that were destroyed was that species history and ancestors. The movie made it VERY clear that they weren't just fucking trees.


With all of that said, who was in the moral right? The species that had lived there for generations and were being told they had to leave and have part of their heritage/culture/ancestry destroyed. Or the corporation that was there to make a profit and basically said, move or we'll fucking move you.


I think anyone with half a fucking brain can realize the humans were in the moral wrong, thus the point of the entire movie. But you sir are dumber than a baby monkey. You are a MORON. I hope you never become an officer in the US military, we already have enough problems. We don't need some dumbshit like you. Go die in a fucking fire.
 

F1N3ST

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No he isn't, but you already knew this. Like me, he probably read your post and thought "this guy is a motherfucking idiot. I can't believe he's in the military". Then read some replies in this thread, including a few more of yours. At which point he certainly thought "This guy IS A MOTHERFUCKING IDIOT. A MOTHERFUCKING GOD DAMN MINDLESS IDIOT". His thoughts would be correct.


Let me lay it out really fucking simply for you. Corporation goes to planet with an indigenous human-ish species. Corporation finds a metal that is very valuable (NEVER ONCE DID IT SAY THAT METAL COULD SAVE HUMAN LIVES, YOU ASSUMED THAT). Corporation realizes there is a species here that does not like the humans destroying their planet, which is EXACTLY what is occurring. As you saw in the movie, all those tree's that were destroyed was that species history and ancestors. The movie made it VERY clear that they weren't just fucking trees.


With all of that said, who was in the moral right? The species that had lived there for generations and were being told they had to leave and have part of their heritage/culture/ancestry destroyed. Or the corporation that was there to make a profit and basically said, move or we'll fucking move you.


I think anyone with half a fucking brain can realize the humans were in the moral wrong, thus the point of the entire movie. But you sir are dumber than a baby monkey. You are a MORON. I hope you never become an officer in the US military, we already have enough problems. We don't need some dumbshit like you. Go die in a fucking fire.

That. Was. OWNAGE. I read the OP and just left because of the idiocy, came back and read this, OP = OWNED. God, can I have your children Cuda?
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
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Are you fucking daft? That is exactly what any soldier should do and most are honest enough to do it too. This isn't about some tattle tale bullsheit with bullies slapping your stupid arse (trying to keep this realistic to something you no doubt have experienced), it's about law and conduct.

Anyway, it's going to go to court and there will be severe punishments for everyone involved.

If there is one soldier in any group that feels that he should not rat out his fellow privates when they have done wrong, he'll end up dead or discharged.

There is no in between and no room for liars or twatters, you do as you are FUCKING TOLD and if shit happens you report EXACTLY what happened.

The code of honor has to do with actions done right, not keeping mistakes hidden.

You seem pretty pussified to me. That said I'd probably take that bullet delivered or a knife.

Most in war that goes bad never makes it to trial...same in politics though.

In a field of battle you have be ingrained to think alike. Most soldiers aren't big thinkers.

You tell your CO you will absolutely not follow his orders chances are some E1 is going to pump a load into you first.

Throw your ass into the desert or woods or water. America is not sending out a search/forensics team...
 
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You seem pretty pussified to me. That said I'd probably take that bullet delivered or a knife.

Most in war that goes bad never makes it to trial...same in politics though.

In a field of battle you have be ingrained to think alike. Most soldiers aren't big thinkers.

You tell your CO you will absolutely not follow his orders chances are some E1 is going to pump a load into you first.

Throw your ass into the desert or woods or water. America is not sending out a search/forensics team...

I got a problem here...

You are telling me what happens in a war zone?

You are telling me, a Captain of the SAS what is what in the military?

I know you suffer from delusions of grandeur but fucking please, you're making a fool out of yourself now.

NO GOOD SOLDIER WILL EVER FOLLOW AN UNLAWFUL ORDER, PERIOD!

Are we fucking clear?
 
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Oh, and if not for American and the beautiful being Blair being too fucked up in the head to NOT jerk off in the general direction of Iraq...

Well, i've been to three war zones, all three were NATO missions and all of them initiated by the US.

Keep your dicks in your pants you neutered twats and perhaps us Brits won't be the first to go into a FOURTH war zone (we were first, TFB, in Kosovo, in Afghanistan and in Iraq).

Be a good little yeehaw boi now and go pray.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
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Oh, and if not for American and the beautiful being Blair being too fucked up in the head to NOT jerk off in the general direction of Iraq...

Well, i've been to three war zones, all three were NATO missions and all of them initiated by the US.

Keep your dicks in your pants you neutered twats and perhaps us Brits won't be the first to go into a FOURTH war zone (we were first, TFB, in Kosovo, in Afghanistan and in Iraq).

Be a good little yeehaw boi now and go pray.

WOW SO YOU BRITS JUST GIVE IN?

Why don't you tell the best to fuck off you aren't going to do it?

I will admit I think we are on a fail train esp pumping too much fake money into this economy and offering too many do overs for violent crimes then crucifying our wealthy
 

PJABBER

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Feb 8, 2001
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I got a problem here...

You are telling me what happens in a war zone?

You are telling me, a Captain of the SAS what is what in the military?

I know you suffer from delusions of grandeur but fucking please, you're making a fool out of yourself now.

NO GOOD SOLDIER WILL EVER FOLLOW AN UNLAWFUL ORDER, PERIOD!

Are we fucking clear?

Sez Captain Underpants of the Lager Regiment.
 

TheVrolok

Lifer
Dec 11, 2000
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I didn't read this entire thread because, well, it's long, but I just got back from the movie and well.. correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they even state that the military in the movie was a bunch of ex-military/paramilitary mercenaries and not the actual army? Which makes this thread.. well.. moot.
 
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WOW SO YOU BRITS JUST GIVE IN?

Why don't you tell the best to fuck off you aren't going to do it?

I will admit I think we are on a fail train esp pumping too much fake money into this economy and offering too many do overs for violent crimes then crucifying our wealthy

When our PM is bought (though we fired him from his job soon after, you twats RE ELECTED your idiot) we don't get much say in the matter.

I had no problem what so ever going to Afghanistan, i did have a problem being pulled out of there when we basically held them with the help of the NA. Air support was removed at the same time and now as the Taliban have spread among the regular population, this war is unwinnable, 30k won't do sheit.

Why would i tell myself and my men to fuck off?
 
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Sez Captain Underpants of the Lager Regiment.

Son, it's extra stout or nothing, lager is for polishing my boots.

And yeah, i say that and i stand by it, if unlawful orders had not been carried out, there would be no war criminals, since they are, there are.

I suppose you cheer Kradic and the likes of him on as good old soldiers who followed orders?
 
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PJABBER

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Son, it's extra stout or nothing, lager is for polishing my boots.

I am definitely not your son and for all of the bluster you keep posting here you have not demonstrated one bit of knowledge about the British military nor the actuality of operations in Iraq, Afghanistan or anywhere else.

In fact, the very few times you made specific statements, rather than just complain about the U.S. military, you were dead wrong.

Watching old war movies while swilling warm beer may give you a thrill up your leg, but you should be careful that no one who has seen service in the Regiment holds you accountable for such self congratulatory nonsense and misrepresentation.
 
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I am definitely not your son and for all of the bluster you keep posting here you have not demonstrated one bit of knowledge about the British military nor the actuality of operations in Iraq, Afghanistan or anywhere else.

In fact, the very few times you made specific statements, rather than just complain about the U.S. military, you were dead wrong.

Watching old war movies while swilling warm beer may give you a thrill up your leg, but you should be careful that no one who has seen service in the Regiment holds you accountable for such self congratulatory nonsense and misrepresentation.

Of course you are not my son, if i had you as a son i'd be a worthless parent and i'm not.

You could ask any of the older posters here regarding missions that i have told them about that could later be read in the paper, obviously i can't tell anyone anything before the order for information to be released, it has happened that i have revealed more than i had intended which showed up a few months later though.

I am not complaining about the US military as a whole but it does bug me that there are men on 12 month duty who never leave the camp site, fucking guess why.

Mostly it's leadership bullsheit and most of all the idiotic decision to abandon the win in Afghanistan to make it into something that cannot possibly be won anymore. Not without 80% civilian casualties, i can stomach that but can you and those like you?

Believe what you want, you do not matter to anyone but yourself, those who i consider my friends (and yes, there are some on this forum) know very well who i am.

There is not one person here that has done service with the Task Force Black, Special Air Service, i would know because if there were, i'd be his commanding officer you stupid twat.

Do you ever get tired of making a fool out of yourself? If not, please continue, it amuses this Captain to see a retard trying to climb up and falling back down every time.
 

weflyhigh

Senior member
Jan 1, 2007
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No he isn't, but you already knew this. Like me, he probably read your post and thought "this guy is a motherfucking idiot. I can't believe he's in the military". Then read some replies in this thread, including a few more of yours. At which point he certainly thought "This guy IS A MOTHERFUCKING IDIOT. A MOTHERFUCKING GOD DAMN MINDLESS IDIOT". His thoughts would be correct.


Let me lay it out really fucking simply for you. Corporation goes to planet with an indigenous human-ish species. Corporation finds a metal that is very valuable (NEVER ONCE DID IT SAY THAT METAL COULD SAVE HUMAN LIVES, YOU ASSUMED THAT). Corporation realizes there is a species here that does not like the humans destroying their planet, which is EXACTLY what is occurring. As you saw in the movie, all those tree's that were destroyed was that species history and ancestors. The movie made it VERY clear that they weren't just fucking trees.


With all of that said, who was in the moral right? The species that had lived there for generations and were being told they had to leave and have part of their heritage/culture/ancestry destroyed. Or the corporation that was there to make a profit and basically said, move or we'll fucking move you.


I think anyone with half a fucking brain can realize the humans were in the moral wrong, thus the point of the entire movie. But you sir are dumber than a baby monkey. You are a MORON. I hope you never become an officer in the US military, we already have enough problems. We don't need some dumbshit like you. Go die in a fucking fire.

That. Was. OWNAGE. I read the OP and just left because of the idiocy, came back and read this, OP = OWNED. God, can I have your children Cuda?

Explain to me how that is "OWNAGE" at ALL? Not only did he not reply to anything I have said before (like everyone else... just said the same stuff over and over), but he was actually wrong on almost everything.

"NEVER ONCE DID IT SAY THAT METAL COULD SAVE HUMAN LIVES, YOU ASSUMED THAT"
Let me quote something from Avatar for you... "mining a rare mineral that is key to solving Earth's energy crisis"
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM................. Not hard to "assume" that a huge energy crisis would cause the loss of life is it? Especially when Earth was described as a brown planet - there are probably very very few sources of energy left and then the new mineral was discovered. Awww....

If you do a search for quarries in the USA on Google Maps, you will see the United States is littered with quarries and our planet has not been destroyed.
The non-military leader showed the 3D map of the mineral deposit on Pandora. MOST areas did not have the mineral under the surface. They wanted to mine at the areas with the large deposits (large deposits of a material not even being directly used).
So... they were not "EXACTLY" destroying the planet.

About the memory-holding trees: It was that stupid bitch's job to do research and figure out everything about the planet. She failed to figure that stuff in time - it was no way the corporation's fault. Were they supposed to give her an unlimited timeline? And even still, the fact that they tried doing research through her is more than they have to do to solve a WORLDWIDE ENERGY CRISIS.

Moral right? I am not saying what the military did was morally good, but it was definitely morally justifiable. The aliens definitely could have moved away from that one location - hell they are going to HAVE to now that their tree got chopped down. Asking ALIENS nicely for 3 months and then giving even more notice is more than enough if it will save a large amount of American lives.

And also, I won't put an introduction and conclusion of name-calling like you because I am not a total douche bag. I expect a reply from you responding to each point and also one from you, "FINEST".
 

destrekor

Lifer
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Of course you are not my son, if i had you as a son i'd be a worthless parent and i'm not.

You could ask any of the older posters here regarding missions that i have told them about that could later be read in the paper, obviously i can't tell anyone anything before the order for information to be released, it has happened that i have revealed more than i had intended which showed up a few months later though.

I am not complaining about the US military as a whole but it does bug me that there are men on 12 month duty who never leave the camp site, fucking guess why.

Mostly it's leadership bullsheit and most of all the idiotic decision to abandon the win in Afghanistan to make it into something that cannot possibly be won anymore. Not without 80% civilian casualties, i can stomach that but can you and those like you?

Believe what you want, you do not matter to anyone but yourself, those who i consider my friends (and yes, there are some on this forum) know very well who i am.

There is not one person here that has done service with the Task Force Black, Special Air Service, i would know because if there were, i'd be his commanding officer you stupid twat.

Do you ever get tired of making a fool out of yourself? If not, please continue, it amuses this Captain to see a retard trying to climb up and falling back down every time.

I can say this with complete honesty:
I so hope I have a CO that is at the minimum, remotely like you.
The chances are remote considering I'll be in the Reserve in a Signal Co. It's what I want, but not expecting such similar characters.
 

destrekor

Lifer
Nov 18, 2005
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I didn't read this entire thread because, well, it's long, but I just got back from the movie and well.. correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they even state that the military in the movie was a bunch of ex-military/paramilitary mercenaries and not the actual army? Which makes this thread.. well.. moot.

:biggrin:

That has been said many times. The OP glances over such facts, ignores them, and retorts with completely hilarious arguments that are most definitely grounded in the opposite of fact.
 

weflyhigh

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:biggrin:

That has been said many times. The OP glances over such facts, ignores them, and retorts with completely hilarious arguments that are most definitely grounded in the opposite of fact.

I did "glance over such facts" after I had already responded to them and I think it's unnecessary to repeat myself over and over. For you to say my arguments are hilarious and opposite of what I say is completely unreasonable on your part unless you want to at least show me one example. One example would be great if you could just find that, but you really should show me all because no one has done that. So easy to say "ahhh he's dumb!" without any support. I think it may because you realized you were at least partially wrong before.

This is from earlier in the thread:
weflyhigh said:
- If like most people are saying, and the soldiers represented were in fact mercenaries, they are still Marines. U.S. Army personnel are regulated within the Uniform Code of Military Justice for their entire lives, retired or not. You are a Marine for life and if anything, if they are mercenaries, we should be even more mad that they are disgracing the corps like that.
(Does that make enough sense to you? Even if you are a
TheVrolok said:
ex-military/paramilitary mercenaries
, you are still held responsible under the military's Uniform Code of Military Justice. Make sense? Ok?)

Now, I will quote myself from earlier again:
weflyhigh said:
895. ARTICLE 95. RESISTANCE, BREACH OF ARREST, AND ESCAPE

Any person subject to this chapter who resists apprehension or breaks arrest or who escapes from custody shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.
896. ARTICLE 96. RELEASING PRISONER WITHOUT PROPER AUTHORITY

Any person subject to this chapter who, without proper authority, releases any prisoner committed to his charge, or who through neglect or design suffers any such prisoner to escape, shall be punished as a court-martial may direct, whether or not the prisoner was committed in strict compliance with law.
899. ARTICLE 99. MISBEHAVIOR BEFORE THE ENEMY

Any person subject to this chapter who before or in the presence of the enemy--

(1) runs away;

(2) shamefully abandons, surrenders, or delivers up any command, unit, place, or military property which it is his duty to defend;

(3) through disobedience, neglect, or intentional misconduct endangers the safety of any such command, unit, place, or military property;

(4) casts away his arms or ammunition;

(5) is guilty of cowardly conduct;

(6) quits his place of duty to plunder or pillage;

(7) causes false alarms in any command, unit, or place under control of the armed forces;

(8) willfully fails to do his utmost to encounter, engage, capture, or destroy any enemy troops, combatants, vessels, aircraft, or any other thing, which it is his duty so to encounter, engage, capture, or destroy; or

(9) does not afford all practicable relief and assistance to any troops, combatants, vessels, or aircraft of the armed forces belonging to the United States or their allies when engaged in battle;

shall be punished by death or such punishment as a court- martial may direct.
904. ARTICLE 104. AIDING THE ENEMY

Any person who--

(1) aids, or attempts to aid, the enemy with arms, ammunition, supplies, money, or other things; or

(2) without proper authority, knowingly harbors or [protects or gives intelligence to or communicates or corresponds with or holds any intercourse with the enemy, either directly or indirectly;

shall suffer death or such other punishment as a court-martial or military commission may direct.
These are just SOME laws mandated in the UCMJ (that we established still has to be followed after leaving the Marine/military). They do not mention the lawfulness or unlawfulness of an order. These are to be followed whether an order is unlawful or lawful. They were broken.


I am not saying that any orders were unlawful AND I am not saying that the military (as TheVrolok even recognizes it as such) was not the United States Marines, BUT IF YOU HAVE to think that is the case, those laws were still violated - the marines were still treasonous and still turned on their country.

This is all ignoring the fact that they is beyond a shadow of a doubt that they WERE American Marines and that the orders were lawful given the circumstances.

If you respond - like you should - respond to everything and do not pick out what works best for you. If you leave something out, I'll just assume that you accept it as your own opinion.
 

Zebo

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Not without 80% civilian casualties, i can stomach that but can you and those like you?

Call me I'll push the button. Y'all are just wasting time, money and materials.

Seriously if you are what you say you are you know we can live with the tribes gain trust and get stability.
 

Fear No Evil

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Of course you are not my son, if i had you as a son i'd be a worthless parent and i'm not.

You could ask any of the older posters here regarding missions that i have told them about that could later be read in the paper, obviously i can't tell anyone anything before the order for information to be released, it has happened that i have revealed more than i had intended which showed up a few months later though.

I am not complaining about the US military as a whole but it does bug me that there are men on 12 month duty who never leave the camp site, fucking guess why.

Mostly it's leadership bullsheit and most of all the idiotic decision to abandon the win in Afghanistan to make it into something that cannot possibly be won anymore. Not without 80% civilian casualties, i can stomach that but can you and those like you?

Believe what you want, you do not matter to anyone but yourself, those who i consider my friends (and yes, there are some on this forum) know very well who i am.

There is not one person here that has done service with the Task Force Black, Special Air Service, i would know because if there were, i'd be his commanding officer you stupid twat.

Do you ever get tired of making a fool out of yourself? If not, please continue, it amuses this Captain to see a retard trying to climb up and falling back down every time.

For someone as important as you claim to be, you certainly have a lot of time to spend posting on Anandtech. In an earlier post you mention:

"You are telling me, a Captain of the SAS what is what in the military?"

I assume then that you never question anyone who outranks you 'what is what' in the military? Yet, above you mention 'its leadership bullsheit'. How dare you question your leadership on 'what is what'.

With as immature as you are in this forums its absolutely amazing to me that the Brits have put you into ANY leadership role. You really should sign your posts with your full name, rank, etc.. Unless you are too ashamed to do it? Clearly you answer to nobody, so there will be no consequences right?
 
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