Avengers: Age of Ultron Trailer

[Aikouka]

Because their interesting villains are either not allowed or not fightable by the Avengers anyway. Avengers couldn't take on Dormammu, for example. And Thanos (my favorite) is going to be bitched out and shrunken down to scrub size for the movies. There is no way Marvel follows the comic. Nobody wants to see that, especially with the resolution.

The problem is that Marvel is deviating from the comics enough that they could adjust one of their villains to be more interesting. Thinking about it, I think that poor antagonists usually stand out the most when the protagonists aren't that interesting. I liked the first Iron Man even though Obediah Stane was a very uninteresting villain, and based upon what I said, that makes sense as Tony Stark was an interesting, fun character to watch.

 

[lupi]

just watched the last shield episode, they used both powered and enhanced in the episode and inhumans during the ad.

 

[Mr. Pedantic]

I thought it stuck out like a sore thumb. Ultron has a pretty nifty robotic look, but his mouth was animated like he was pulled straight from Toy Story. Also, when it comes to Marvel movies, I've gotten really used to dumb villains with dumb plans. Marvel has pretty much convinced me that they are incapable of creating an interesting and convincing villain, and yes, I am including Loki in that.

If you go by the assumption that an artificial intelligence is smart in the way that a human is smart, then everything about Ultron makes sense. People seem to assume any artificial intelligence will be intelligent in a way that will be intelligible to humans, because we are the only intelligent entities we know.

Ultron was not created by human intelligence. It was created by an automated iterative process from something that has nothing to do with humans. I see no reason why it should be smart only relative to humans. For all we know the difference between us and Ultron could be the same as that between an ant and a human.

Yet all we see in the movies is an entity that thinks at the speed of a human, has the sensory, logical, and emotional (what?!) limitations of a human. It literally ruins the entire movie, because this is like the movie equivalent of facing a boss on the Easiest difficulty.

 

[Bubbleawsome]

But ultron was built with JARVIS in mind. They changed him slightly. It's a classic AI conundrum. What happens when machines can think in a perfectly "logical" way, but are coded so well they imprint on human emotions?

 

[Mr. Pedantic]

But ultron was built with JARVIS in mind. They changed him slightly. It's a classic AI conundrum. What happens when machines can think in a perfectly "logical" way, but are coded so well they imprint on human emotions?

(I love that picture by the way)

The blue brain thingy is positively identified as not human. It came from a Hydra lab, which additionally I think implies that it was "gifted" by something/someone else.

By the end of the relevant scene we aren't given enough information to speculate on the particulars of the ongoing test runs, but it seems pretty clear that the setup is that Jarvis would brute-force through iterations of different permutations of components, and inform Stark if any of the runs were successful.

But the foundation is still (presumably) non-human.

Also, I think the only way Ultron's thought process could be described as logical would be if reality-testing were not an inherent part of logical thinking i.e. Ultron thinks outside the box the way a child does. There is no way to interpret "protection" as "elimination". If you were to say Ultron's foundational statement was "peace in our time" you could make a case that he was aiming for a Roman peace, but this is still silly - saying a sterile planet is peaceful is meaningless.

 

[Phoenix86]

just watched the last shield episode, they used both powered and enhanced in the episode and inhumans during the ad.

I think there's still bickering about what terms can be used, but "enhanced" was what I think they first agreed on to keep it separate from mutants. I don't see how either side could have a legit claim to "powers".

Has there been a claim on inhuman as well as mutant?

 

[Skel]

I think there's still bickering about what terms can be used, but "enhanced" was what I think they first agreed on to keep it separate from mutants. I don't see how either side could have a legit claim to "powers".

Has there been a claim on inhuman as well as mutant?

Not sure I'm following what you're asking but.. Marvel is trying to make Inhuman into a brand. If they used it to refer to everyone with powers they'd confuse people even more.

 

[lupi]

Can't find the article, but there was one talking about why (they thought) marvel was not using inhuman within the show while they were on the ads for the show.

Another tidbit from the last show was hydra mentioning their failed experiments (on inhumans?) Except for "the twins".

 

[Bubbleawsome]

Not sure I'm following what you're asking but.. Marvel is trying to make Inhuman into a brand. If they used it to refer to everyone with powers they'd confuse people even more.

Also, in agents of shield there are

Spoiler

people changed by kree (blue guy from Guardians of the Galazy) technology. They will get a brand too. Maybe inhuman is for them, enhanced is for artificially powered like Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch, and powered is for naturally powered humans?

 

[lupi]

2 avengers missing, and more cave!


https://www.yahoo.com/movies/joss-whedon-on-fighting-with-marvel-over-118200422037.html

 

[Skel]

Also, in agents of shield there are

Spoiler

people changed by kree (blue guy from Guardians of the Galazy) technology. They will get a brand too. Maybe inhuman is for them, enhanced is for artificially powered like Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch, and powered is for naturally powered humans?

The people in Shield are the ones I speak of. They'll be made into a movie soon.. maybe not the people in the show, but their species.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

The people in Shield are the ones I speak of. They'll be made into a movie soon.. maybe not the people in the show, but their species.

They're the last move of the ones announced so far. After part two of Infinity War. It's gonna be a while for them.

 

[Bubbleawsome]

They're the last move of the ones announced so far. After part two of Infinity War. It's gonna be a while for them.

2018 right?

 

[AznAnarchy99]

2018 right?

It was then the Spider-Man deal happened. Now it's July of 2019.

 

[lupi]

They're the last move of the ones announced so far. After part two of Infinity War. It's gonna be a while for them.

has it changed, last thing I had read had the inhuman between the infinity movies.

 

[bradley]

A friend convinced me to see this movie yesterday afternoon. I hadn't been to a movie viewing in a long time.

Spoiler

There was a lot of mindless CGI cartoon violence and ten minutes worth of dialog. It resembled nothing of the comic books I fondly remember as a child. Before the movie, they showed a trailer for the latest Jurassic Park. It looks like a rehash of the original, except now with more gratuitous violence and many explosions. However it does give one insight into Americans who subsist on a steady diet of many similar things. Their bodies are passive like sheep; their brains are being programmed with violence. The end.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

has it changed, last thing I had read had the inhuman between the infinity movies.

Ya because of the new MCU Spider-Man movie.

 

[Aikouka]

2 avengers missing, and more cave!


https://www.yahoo.com/movies/joss-whedon-on-fighting-with-marvel-over-118200422037.html

I agree with Whedon that the cave scene wasn't exactly very good. I vaguely understood the point of it, but I would not be surprised if most people had no idea why it was there. I'm fine with them not adding anyone else in. I think that fights tend to become a bit too saturated when you have too much going on at once in many different places. Although, I guess it would work if they had the heroes team up with each other like Cap and Thor in the beginning.

 

[JEDI]

I agree with Whedon that the cave scene wasn't exactly very good. I vaguely understood the point of it, but I would not be surprised if most people had no idea why it was there. I'm fine with them not adding anyone else in. .

yup.. lost me and I'm a comic book fan.

I know why they did it.. for thor to know about the infinity gems.

but they could have explained better:
-what was the pool
-where was it
-why he needed the professor to go w/him? (instead of say, any of the avengers hiding out and doing nothing)

 

[smackababy]

I agree with Whedon that the cave scene wasn't exactly very good. I vaguely understood the point of it, but I would not be surprised if most people had no idea why it was there. I'm fine with them not adding anyone else in. I think that fights tend to become a bit too saturated when you have too much going on at once in many different places. Although, I guess it would work if they had the heroes team up with each other like Cap and Thor in the beginning.

I just assumed it was an Infinity Well type of thing.

 

[JEDI]

I just assumed it was an Infinity Well type of thing.

how did he know about it?
why didn't anyone else know about it?

if it was that powerful, why wasnt it guarded? else LOTS of beings should be bathing in it.

btw-in the comics, the infinity well is located in Death's realm

 

[lupi]

Tom Holland named as the new spider-man.

 

[smackababy]

Tom Holland named as the new spider-man.

And if he isn't wearing that mask the entire time, that giant ass chin mole is going to be awfully annoying. I will feel like I'm watching Austin Powers again.

 

[Phoenix86]

And if he isn't wearing that mask the entire time, that giant ass chin mole is going to be awfully annoying. I will feel like I'm watching Austin Powers again.

He had it removed.

 

[james1701]

With the release on video, has anyone had any more revelations? I was a little disappointed with the extras and lack of cast commentary.

Also, has there been any news of Wheadon doing anything back in the Buffy universe? Him talking about the wolf ram and heart easter egg gets my hopes up a little.