Average IQ for each Country

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yea dubious list.. no way Qatar is so low down.. they are arguably the richest country in the world per capita, and they do a lot of study

 

[grrl]

For what it's worth. From Dictionary.com.

Jap ? adjective, noun Slang: Disparaging and Offensive.
Japanese.
Origin: 1885?90; shortened form

kraut - noun
2. (often initial capital letter) Slang: Disparaging and Offensive.
a German, esp. a German soldier during World War I or World War II.
Origin: 1915?20; by shortening

frog - noun
4. (often initial capital letter) Slang: Disparaging and Offensive.
a French person or a person of French descent.

limey - noun, plural -eys, Slang: Sometimes Disparaging and Offensive.
2. a British person.

Yank ? noun, adjective Informal.
Yankee.
Origin: 1770?80, Americanism; shortened form

 

[grrl]

Originally posted by: JS80

No shens. I can tell you first hand that koreans are the smartest people on the planet. Hong Kong doesn't count because it's not a "people" or country, that's just where all the smart chinese people live.

Please explain how Koreans are the smartest. How does an educational system based on rote memorization and not creativity or critical thinking skills foster one's intelligence?

 

[Descartes]

Originally posted by: shortylickens

Originally posted by: xcript

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: nkgreen
Makes sense. All the Koreans and Japs I've known were really fucking smart.

I asked you nicely to remove that derogatory term and you did not.

Enjoy your week off.


esquared
Anandtech Senior Moderator

What derogatory term?

Yeah, what the hell? :disgust:

Its not like he said a real racial epiteth.

When I took Japanese in high school the teacher (who had lived there on and off for 15 years) used the word Japs frequently. When called on it she said the whole concept of PC is laughed at over there and they dont mind "Japs" anyway. Its not an issue for them.

I dont use it because I know how soft and sensitive everyone is these days and something like this could start a huge debate with a PC pussy.

Oh, well, if your teacher says so then I'm sold

 

[hiromizu]

Originally posted by: grrl

Originally posted by: JS80

No shens. I can tell you first hand that koreans are the smartest people on the planet. Hong Kong doesn't count because it's not a "people" or country, that's just where all the smart chinese people live.

Please explain how Koreans are the smartest. How does an educational system based on rote memorization and not creativity or critical thinking skills foster one's intelligence?

I would say that most Koreans I've met are actually quite capable people. Much like the Japanese, they are naturally intelligent (huh huh) but their culture has a strong influence in how they act because in order to "succeed" in life, one must fit in. Uniqueness is not exactly looked well upon in these cultures.

I think to further exercise their intelligence based on your views, a radical social change is in order, but looking at history about how major organizations work, change is probably impossible.

 

[hiromizu]

Originally posted by: Descartes

Originally posted by: shortylickens

Originally posted by: xcript

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: nkgreen
Makes sense. All the Koreans and Japs I've known were really fucking smart.

I asked you nicely to remove that derogatory term and you did not.

Enjoy your week off.


esquared
Anandtech Senior Moderator

What derogatory term?

Yeah, what the hell? :disgust:

Its not like he said a real racial epiteth.

When I took Japanese in high school the teacher (who had lived there on and off for 15 years) used the word Japs frequently. When called on it she said the whole concept of PC is laughed at over there and they dont mind "Japs" anyway. Its not an issue for them.

I dont use it because I know how soft and sensitive everyone is these days and something like this could start a huge debate with a PC pussy.

Oh, well, if your teacher says so then I'm sold

This is true. I'm a Jap and I think it's easier than saying Japanesianese. Pop culture there heavily depends on abbreviations and stereotyping is ubiquitous and socially acceptable so it's really no big deal.

 

[Nitemare]

Points the finger at the US publik skool sistem

To be honest, I'm surprised we aren't much lower.

 

[feralkid]

Originally posted by: Descartes
I call total shens and 1000% bs. All of the poor countries with a large illiterate population are at the bottom and all those with extreme academic demands are at the top. Some might say that's ok until you acknowledge that an IQ test measures intelligence and not education/knowledge.

I'd like to see a link, but I'm guessing this was in no way a standard test like the Stanford-Binet or similar.

Google "Iodine deficiency".

 

[jpeyton]

There are more than 81 countries in the world.

 

[magomago]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Codewiz

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Descartes
I call total shens and 1000% bs. All of the poor countries with a large illiterate population are at the bottom and all those with extreme academic demands are at the top. .

Maybe their being illiterate and poor is a result of the average low intelligence of that country. I would think if you had a country that was comprised of below-intelligence people it wouldn't be as prosperous as a country comprised of people with a high intelligence.

Also, if you wanted to cross check the results, you could test the IQ of immigrants and see how they compare to the people in the country they came from.

It doesn't surprise me that people in sub-saharan Africa score lowest. People of sub-saharan African descent generally score low even when they're living in prosperous nations like the US.

I think these scores merely illustrate a possibility that people in this politically correct culture aren't willing to accept, and that's that IQ might correlate with race.

Correlated with race.....

You are a f'ing tard.

The personal attack was uncalled for.

You see that, you got too emotional talking about an issue which should be approached logically.

You instantly discounted a possibility due to political correctness and emotion before you even analyzed or considered it. That is not a trait of a logical mind.

A good percentage of people in Asia are malnourished, yet they don't score poorly on IQ tests. They often score higher than those living in countries where people are taller and better fed.

Also notice that countries that are populated mainly by Africans but are nowhere near Africa (such as Jamaica and Barbados) score very closely to African countries. In the case of Barbados, they have a relatively high standard of living, yet still a relatively low average IQ.

I would have expected to see this shit 100 years ago as the white man went around with his burden. Your first main problem is that you think races exist. When you can get over this hump, maybe you can move on to other topics.

Race is NOT biological, it is a social construction. Go pick up many books that discuss this.

Intelligence probably has a some part influenced by biology, but I believe that the influence of environment plays, in general, at the very east an equally important role that can flip and tank things towards either bright child or a sub par child. When you have children that are malnourished, not getting the protein and nutrients they need, it inhibits not just physical abilities, but mental abilities at the same time.

The reason why people have such quick and powerful reaction against what you argue is because your logic has dictated for the past several hundred years where Europeans used their 'scientific, unbiased, and absolute truth' to subjugate, attack, and steal people's resources. Your type of logic inherently builds into racism without much effort.

I would expect these 'scores' (IMO I think IQ is worthless - you can't measure these things outside of the social experience by which you live in. ie: it is trapped within the social experience that exists, much like science [which people incorrectly assume is the only absolute]. Even the 'inventor' of the IQ called BS on what people tried to use it for) to rise if people in those countries had the same nutrition and more 'relaxed' environment (Try to focus if there is almost perpetual war outside the entire time). I would also expect to see the spread decrease, although still exist slightly only because I think biology and how your individual genes fall together CAN affect it (note: I'm not advocating that any race is smarter at all)

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: Amused
Punishing people for shortening Japanese is like punishing someone for calling a person named Robert Bob, Rob, Robby or Bobby. Or Richard Dick, Dickie, Rich or Ritchie.

No it's not, are you fvcking stupid? As a Japanese American, I take offense to your moronic statement. J**s absolutely has a slightly negative connotation, no it's not a fcking nickname like "Bob" (my name's "Rob" btw). Maybe if YOUR grandparents were persecuted by the U.S. government you'd take a slight offense to the term as well.

If someone uses the term out of ignorance, then I don't really care (like the dipsht poster in this thread who got a vacation). However, most people educated in history should be aware of the slight negative connotation of the term. No, it's not as bad as calling a black a ____, or an Asian a c_____, but just be aware that it's slightly offensive. If you can't the whole term "Japanese", at least use Oriental (less offensive than J**s but still shows you're an ignorant dipsht).

I see, so attacking me personally and calling me names is better than me excusing someone for using an abbreviated form of Japanese?

And I'm still curious as to why whites are the only people on Earth who, according to the overly sensitive PC crybabies, can be called anything and nothing is considered offensive.

So some propaganda assholes used the abbreviated word for Japanese 65 years ago. Big deal. Get over it. I fail to see the widespread damage that word, or ANY word causes. A word can only be offensive if you take offense to it.

EVERYBODY'S ancestors have been persecuted at one time or another.

Finally, if it's okay to call a Jewish person a Jew, it's okay to call a Japanese person the abbreviation I would get banned for.

It's nothing personal but the fact that you're trying to compare a person's nickname to a well recognized ethnic slur is what it is (moronic). I doubt many here would disagree with that.

Everybody's ancestors may have been persecuted, but none of yours that are still alive. Show some fcking respect, it has nothing to do with being PC or a crybaby. Show some fcking respect for your fellow Americans.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: Amused
Punishing people for shortening Japanese is like punishing someone for calling a person named Robert Bob, Rob, Robby or Bobby. Or Richard Dick, Dickie, Rich or Ritchie.

No it's not, are you fvcking stupid? As a Japanese American, I take offense to your moronic statement. J**s absolutely has a slightly negative connotation, no it's not a fcking nickname like "Bob" (my name's "Rob" btw). Maybe if YOUR grandparents were persecuted by the U.S. government you'd take a slight offense to the term as well.

If someone uses the term out of ignorance, then I don't really care (like the dipsht poster in this thread who got a vacation). However, most people educated in history should be aware of the slight negative connotation of the term. No, it's not as bad as calling a black a ____, or an Asian a c_____, but just be aware that it's slightly offensive. If you can't the whole term "Japanese", at least use Oriental (less offensive than J**s but still shows you're an ignorant dipsht).

I see, so attacking me personally and calling me names is better than me excusing someone for using an abbreviated form of Japanese?

And I'm still curious as to why whites are the only people on Earth who, according to the overly sensitive PC crybabies, can be called anything and nothing is considered offensive.

So some propaganda assholes used the abbreviated word for Japanese 65 years ago. Big deal. Get over it. I fail to see the widespread damage that word, or ANY word causes. A word can only be offensive if you take offense to it.

EVERYBODY'S ancestors have been persecuted at one time or another.

Finally, if it's okay to call a Jewish person a Jew, it's okay to call a Japanese person the abbreviation I would get banned for.

It's nothing personal but the fact that you're trying to compare a person's nickname to a well recognized ethnic slur is what it is (moronic). I doubt many here would disagree with that.

Everybody's ancestors may have been persecuted, but none of yours that are still alive. Show some fcking respect, it has nothing to do with being PC or a crybaby. Show some fcking respect for your fellow Americans.

I do show respect. Again, a word is only offensive if you take offense to it.

The constant word game and changing of labels in this country needs to stop. Hell, blacks get a new label every decade or so... sometimes I wonder if it's just because they can't stand the sound of white people saying it.

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: Nitemare
Points the finger at the US publik skool sistem

To be honest, I'm surprised we aren't much lower.

I'm sure we are in reality. I find this list very, very suspect.

As for the term "Jap", it's definitely in that grey area where some will take offense - and not just overly PC people looking to be offended. Here's an idea - why not show a little respect and say "Japanese" just to be on the safe side? You look like babies taking this silly stand and crying about how it should be ok to use.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: grrl

Originally posted by: JS80

No shens. I can tell you first hand that koreans are the smartest people on the planet. Hong Kong doesn't count because it's not a "people" or country, that's just where all the smart chinese people live.

Please explain how Koreans are the smartest. How does an educational system based on rote memorization and not creativity or critical thinking skills foster one's intelligence?

hmmm i reread my post, and the sarcasm isn't as obvious the second time around haha.

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: rrahman1

Originally posted by: mwmorph

Originally posted by: RocksteadyDotNet

Originally posted by: Descartes
I call total shens and 1000% bs. All of the poor countries with a large illiterate population are at the bottom and all those with extreme academic demands are at the top. Some might say that's ok until you acknowledge that an IQ test measures intelligence and not education/knowledge.

I'd like to see a link, but I'm guessing this was in no way a standard test like the Stanford-Binet or similar.

What if it's actually a corrolation? The reason the countrys at the top have better education and infrastructure is because they are smarter?

EDIT: Spelt smarter wrong.

well and conutrys should be countries.

Irony FTW?

and conutrys should've been countrys which should have been countries.

also it's correlation not corrolation. spelled and not spelt. irony/irony ftl

look it up, spelt is also correct. its more of a poetic replacement, not for formal/ technical writing, but still acceptable.

 

[grrl]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: grrl

Originally posted by: JS80

No shens. I can tell you first hand that koreans are the smartest people on the planet. Hong Kong doesn't count because it's not a "people" or country, that's just where all the smart chinese people live.

Please explain how Koreans are the smartest. How does an educational system based on rote memorization and not creativity or critical thinking skills foster one's intelligence?

hmmm i reread my post, and the sarcasm isn't as obvious the second time around haha.

I had my doubts, but figured I'd ask the question anyways, especially since I put little stock in the IQ ranking.

 

[Train]

Originally posted by: Descartes
I call total shens and 1000% bs. All of the poor countries with a large illiterate population are at the bottom and all those with extreme academic demands are at the top. Some might say that's ok until you acknowledge that an IQ test measures intelligence and not education/knowledge.

I'd like to see a link, but I'm guessing this was in no way a standard test like the Stanford-Binet or similar.

Intelligence can be increased through education. Not by much, but think of it as a muscle that you can "excersice"

People in engineering type disciplines especially get a boost, because of all the critical thinking "workouts" they got in school or at work.

EDIT: this is of course assuming a "proper" IQ test, which is supposed to test intelligence in its rawest form, leaving out the need for knowledge or language skills as much as possible.

But usually in mass studies such as this one, they likely used forms of IQ tests that arent very pure.