Kevin Trudeau does pretty much the same thing. Except where religious people say "you must not have prayed enough", Trudeau says "you must not have believed enough".
Scumbags.
So, I knew someone who died from a terminal illness. He was in his early 20's. As you might imagine, people prayed like absolute crazy for this kid and he still died. Anyway, on to the point:
One day, that kid's dad was talking to a stranger, and this stranger mentioned that he has survived the same illness. He said that he had faith in god and that god had saved him due to all the prayers. The stranger wasn't aware of the other guy's loss.
How must that father have felt to hear this? This stranger said god saved him because he prayed and kept the faith, so god found favor in him but let this other guy's son DIE. If shit like this doesn't make people at least question their faith, then I don't know what else can.
I spoke in a general way to protect people's privacy, but this fucking happened right infront of my face and I BIT MY TONGUE.
IMHO the atheists are worse. I've met plenty of stupid religious people and plenty of stupid atheists. Generally the religious people are nice, decent folk. If anything, their religious beliefs reinforce a basic moral system. On the other hand, atheists are so convinced of their intellectual superiority over the rest of humanity that they come off as a bunch of smug d-bags whenever the topic of religion comes up.
Look at USSR, Red China, Cambodia under atheist Pol Pot, and North Korea. Atheist societies fell behind religious societies in technological advancements and human rights.
The fact that some of you automatically assume that I am religious just because I pointed out the idiocy in this thread just proves my point about the atheists in this forum - you're as retarded as the religious people you mock.
The fact that some of you automatically assume that I am religious just because I pointed out the idiocy in this thread just proves my point about the atheists in this forum - you're as retarded as the religious people you mock.
You'd think he would give some credit to the doctors and pharmaceutical companies who really saved him.
Praying never did anyone harm. However hospital deaths accounted for 29 percent of all deaths in 2010. So yeah, thank you medical science for not making me part of your unlucky 81 percent.
And death by medical error is the sixth leading cause of death in the US. More people die at the hands of medical malpractice than auto accidents by a factor of six. This doesn't even account for those who are seriously harmed and injured. My unwavering belief in big pharma and doctors has paid off. Thank you Jesus.
Well, everyone is terminal and it is a fact that sick and dying people generally go to the hospital so it would make sense that some portion of the people who go there will die there. I'm not sure that the statistic 29% of all deaths were hospital deaths means a whole lot more than jack shit quite frankly.
I don't think so. They get large groups of people in churches and other places to hold group prayers for maximum impact...
Just look at how many large rocks are whizzing around the local Solar System, and how many have hit this planet. Or how the ecosystem has undergone immense changes from time to time, particularly in how it went from a low-oxygen environment to what we have now.People find comfort in religion in situations like terminal illness because we don't like to feel powerless. Prayer makes us feel like we're helping our loved one, even though it accomplishes nothing. If the person happens to get better, it just affirms their faith.
Of course this isn't how the universe works. The best metaphor for life I've come across is a game of poker. There's some order and skill to it, but a lot of the outcome depends on random chance and luck. Some folks just get dealt a bad hand, while others players at the same table always seem to hold a straight flush. Then there are some folks who are just really good at bluffing. All you can do is just play your cards to the best of your abilities and try to enjoy the ride.
It certainly can if you do that in lieu of something that's has genuine use, beyond a morale boost.Praying never did anyone harm. However hospital deaths accounted for 29 percent of all deaths in 2010. So yeah, thank you medical science for not making me part of your unlucky 81 percent.
And death by medical error is the third leading cause of death in the US. More people die at the hands of medical malpractice than auto accidents by a factor of six. This doesn't even account for those who are seriously harmed and injured. My unwavering belief in big pharma and doctors has paid off. Thank you Jesus.
Or of the wrong religion. Or of the wrong grouping withing the same religion. Or if you don't pray enough. Or don't pray properly. Or hold the wrong opinions. And so on.IMHO the atheists are worse. I've met plenty of stupid religious people and plenty of stupid atheists. Generally the religious people are nice, decent folk.
Not if you're gay, for one.
So simple and basic, in fact, that there's no disagreement at all on how it should be followed, and no contradictions in behavior, or in the rules themselves.If anything, their religious beliefs reinforce a basic moral system.
On the other hand, faith-based religious folks are so convinced of their intellectual superiority that they simply say "because I believe it, and faith is all that's needed," effectively saying, evidence isn't needed. It's to be believed and accepted just because.On the other hand, atheists are so convinced of their intellectual superiority over the rest of humanity that they come off as a bunch of smug d-bags whenever the topic of religion comes up.
It certainly can if you do that in lieu of something that's has genuine use, beyond a morale boost.
I can't believe all the anti-religious fervor going on in this damned thread. God has a special place in hell for you heathen infidels full of fire and brimstone where you will choke and cough and burn and suffer for all eternity. But he loves you. He loves you and he needs money! He's got the whole creation of the universe thing going, but somehow has trouble with money.
Or they got the idea of, "Oh no, my condition is so bad that they're calling on the supreme being of the Universe to help me out. FFFFFFFUUUUUUU..."Studies have been done which show that prayer actually had a negative effect when the person being prayed for knew about it. Researchers chalked it up to performance anxiety. People actually felt pressure to get well, and the stress caused complications.
If two people had a terminal illness, and one of them survived, it would seem that it is in fact NOT a terminal illness.
I had a common cold earlier this year, but because I contracted it at an airport I considered it a terminal illness.
If two people had a terminal illness, and one of them survived, it would seem that it is in fact NOT a terminal illness.
Prayer; sometimes it works every time.
Exactly. The burden of proof is on the religious people to prove God exists, if you can't then GTFO.
I had a common cold earlier this year, but because I contracted it at an airport I considered it a terminal illness.
God exists. The burden of belief is on you, not me. Want proof? Have faith.
Amputees have had their limbs...pretty much never grow back, ever, except when powerful hallucinogenic compounds are involved. And speaking of which...Called a miracle bro, that's like... how it works. What shouldn't happen, does. People rise from the dead, the blind see, water turns to wine... these aren't fairy tales, this stuff still happens. I've seen dying people restored instantly, the shocked doctors who have no explanation.
Because if God does exist, he's the most horrifically evil and sadistic entity humanity's ever encountered?One of the best jokes to come from Anchorman and hilariously accurate in this case. For some people, it does work. For others, it doesn't. Now why don't people try to figure out why...
I could've sworn there was something about this in those Commandment thingies....
You can look around and see religious people everywhere, and their prayers are never answered and their lives are not changed in the least from their weekly dose from the pulpit. Religion is made by man, not God. You won't find God in religion. Heck, even the bible says that. Yet all these bible-believing religions must skip that chapter.
Blind faith: Accepting things just because. (The invisible pink unicorn: I believe, therefore that's proof.)religious logic 101.
A diehard drug addict also has exceptional blind faith in things. He still can't fly or walk on water.
Called a miracle bro, that's like... how it works. What shouldn't happen, does. People rise from the dead, the blind see, water turns to wine... these aren't fairy tales, this stuff still happens. I've seen dying people restored instantly, the shocked doctors who have no explanation.
What if you were on a treadmill?bullshit, 5 tabs of LSD and I'll be fucking FLYING.
No matter what occurs, no matter what occurs, God always planned it.On this one, did said person just go from knocking on deaths door to getting up and going to a rave (or something like this) or was it from medical treatment they got and the Dr is unsure why it happened. Most likely the latter.
As I said, I died on the operating table for 10 minutes, if not for surgeons manually pumping my heart into a rhythm I would certainly have died. Now when dead, I saw nothing. I was literally (and clinically dead) for 10 mins, my medical records show this fact. Explain why I saw nothing, and explain why medical science restored me where religious "science" would have seen me die before I even got to the table.
My priest actually said it would be better for me not to have had the transplant as my "leaving earth" was part of his plan. Yup, fucked up. The day I died and was revived, was the day I stopped being religious, and trust me, I was a big believer!
Because if God does exist, he's the most horrifically evil and sadistic entity humanity's ever encountered?
On this one, did said person just go from knocking on deaths door to getting up and going to a rave (or something like this) or was it from medical treatment they got and the Dr is unsure why it happened. Most likely the latter.
As I said, I died on the operating table for 10 minutes, if not for surgeons manually pumping my heart into a rhythm I would certainly have died. Now when dead, I saw nothing. I was literally (and clinically dead) for 10 mins, my medical records show this fact. Explain why I saw nothing, and explain why medical science restored me where religious "science" would have seen me die before I even got to the table.
My priest actually said it would be better for me not to have had the transplant as my "leaving earth" was part of his plan. Yup, fucked up. The day I died and was revived, was the day I stopped being religious, and trust me, I was a big believer!