AZ Secretary of State says Kari Lake committed felony

Pohemi

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I SO hope they bust her ass. She's reached that rare air with Donald where just seeing her face angers me (because if she's in the media, she's saying something brash, stupid, wicked, etc.) She's just a lying egomaniac. Birds of a feather...
 

dank69

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Oh good, another "investigation" that should take one afternoon but will actually take 5 years or just be forgotten altogether.
 
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ivwshane

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It was probably put on hold because the DOJ was investigating a democrat.

 
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hal2kilo

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It's over.


Judge Peter A. Thompson said Lake failed to prove her claim that Maricopa County did not verify signatures on mail ballots as required by law.
As long as she gets attention and money it will never, ever be over.
 

Moonbeam

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We create what we fear. People like her terrify Democrats and their penchant to value rational living. She thrives on attention and gets plenty of it here.
 

MrSquished

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We create what we fear. People like her terrify Democrats and their penchant to value rational living. She thrives on attention and gets plenty of it here.

Right. So, let's agree, which I do, that a good chunk of the horribleness in this people is because of fear.

Do you think we have enough time, money, resources, mdma, therapy, parallel dimensions to work with in order to heal these people before they have a chance to take over our society and impose their fascist white nationalist views on us? Or, is it better to just start drawing up the battle lines and understanding, based on history, that this is the enemy we have to deal with right now.
 

Moonbeam

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Right. So, let's agree, which I do, that a good chunk of the horribleness in this people is because of fear.

Do you think we have enough time, money, resources, mdma, therapy, parallel dimensions to work with in order to heal these people before they have a chance to take over our society and impose their fascist white nationalist views on us? Or, is it better to just start drawing up the battle lines and understanding, based on history, that this is the enemy we have to deal with right now.
You keep on raving about this. You seem willing to admit their pathetic behavior might be generated by fear, but do you see that that your fears and frustrations are driving you to want to draw up battle lines? That’s what I see.

But what I keep asking you and you and so far you dodge every time I ask you to tell me what kind of plans you have in mind. What do you see as these battle lines.

Personally, after devoting my youth to the search for such answers I died to any conception of hope losing in the process all of my most sacred cows. That produced, in my opinion, a strange kind of awakening.

I could sum it up with an expression the Germans came up with as they died in the trenches of WW2. “The situation is hopeless but not serious.” I also like a Polish saying of a few years later regarding what to do when the air raid sirens go off warning of incoming nuclear bombs, “Cover up with a white sheet and crawl to the cemetery.”

So, again, what is your plan? Do you want me to invite you to my house so I can snipe Nazis coming for you from my roof? I know you don’t want to have a gun but you maybe could reload. But you might want a friend in a state that permits larger than 10 round clips.
 

MrSquished

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You keep on raving about this. You seem willing to admit their pathetic behavior might be generated by fear, but do you see that that your fears and frustrations are driving you to want to draw up battle lines? That’s what I see.

But what I keep asking you and you and so far you dodge every time I ask you to tell me what kind of plans you have in mind. What do you see as these battle lines.

Personally, after devoting my youth to the search for such answers I died to any conception of hope losing in the process all of my most sacred cows. That produced, in my opinion, a strange kind of awakening.

I could sum it up with an expression the Germans came up with as they died in the trenches of WW2. “The situation is hopeless but not serious.” I also like a Polish saying of a few years later regarding what to do when the air raid sirens go off warning of incoming nuclear bombs, “Cover up with a white sheet and crawl to the cemetery.”

So, again, what is your plan? Do you want me to invite you to my house so I can snipe Nazis coming for you from my roof? I know you don’t want to have a gun but you maybe could reload. But you might want a friend in a state that permits larger than 10 round clips

btw it's not called a clip, that is for a head of hair. It's called a magazine.

I have posted a plan and can do so again. But so you think we can reach these people in time, yes or no?

Can you provide what you would do, and are doing, to reach all these people and alleviate their fears before they can take power and oppress us even more? Compared to so many countries in recent history, such as Germany and Italy and many others, where the nationalist fascists took over, what are we doing differently in America to prevent these people from taking over? Can you point to some of our advances we have made in the last 5 years with these people to show we are reaching them? Provide any benchmarks you have or notable moments/turning points when we have reached these people
 

Meghan54

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btw it's not called a clip, that is for a head of hair. It's called a magazine.

I have posted a plan and can do so again. But so you think we can reach these people in time, yes or no?

Can you provide what you would do, and are doing, to reach all these people and alleviate their fears before they can take power and oppress us even more? Compared to so many countries in recent history, such as Germany and Italy and many others, where the nationalist fascists took over, what are we doing differently in America to prevent these people from taking over? Can you point to some of our advances we have made in the last 5 years with these people to show we are reaching them? Provide any benchmarks you have or notable moments/turning points when we have reached these people
Hahahaha…clips are for hair, they’re not magazines!

Only gun fetishers are so put upon when someone calls a magazine (Car and Driver, for instance? That’s a magazine.) a clip.

Hell, my drill sergeants in basic training back in 1972 used the words “magazine” and “clip” interchangeably for the device that holds M-16 rounds.

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MrSquished

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Hahahaha…clips are for hair, they’re not magazines!

Only gun fetishers are so put upon when someone calls a magazine (Car and Driver, for instance? That’s a magazine.) a clip.

Hell, my drill sergeants in basic training back in 1972 used the words “magazine” and “clip” interchangeably for the device that holds M-16 rounds.

🤪🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

It's in Apex Legends. The character Bangalore uses that line every time you pick her.
 
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Meghan54

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It's in Apex Legends. The character Bangalore uses that line every time you pick her.
Video game references? OMG. Get out and live. There’s a whole world outside. Me, I’m going to contribute to climate change by taking my boat out today and burning 15 gals of 2-stroke oil/gas.

 
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MrSquished

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Video game references? OMG. Get out and live. There’s a whole world outside. Me, I’m going to contribute to climate change by taking my boat out today and burning 15 gals of 2-stroke oil/gas.

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That's nice. So because you play video games sometimes at night that means you definitely avoid 3 dimensional land and don't go out and know there is a whole world outside?


That's a fascinating leap of logic. Can you share with us some more life wisdom?
 

Moonbeam

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btw it's not called a clip, that is for a head of hair. It's called a magazine.

I have posted a plan and can do so again. But so you think we can reach these people in time, yes or no?
If you read what I said would not my answer be obvious? Would not it be clear that the recognition that the situation is hopeless is the one realization that changes everything?

The problem, as I see it, is that you are a person of hope, that some plan you dream up can solve everything, can deal with the dangerous lunatic right and save us from authoritarianism.

But in my opinion that is a desperation born of fear. You fear the loss of that which you hold sacred, the American tradition of democracy as you conceive it to have been but is now threatened by right wing fascism. And for this you have a plan. I asked you what your plan is but you ask me instead to remove your hope that plans are needed and that they can save you from this horrible fate.


Can you provide what you would do, and are doing, to reach all these people and alleviate their fears before they can take power and oppress us even more? Compared to so many countries in recent history, such as Germany and Italy and many others, where the nationalist fascists took over, what are we doing differently in America to prevent these people from taking over? Can you point to some of our advances we have made in the last 5 years with these people to show we are reaching them? Provide any benchmarks you have or notable moments/turning points when we have reached these people
You ask me to give you assurances that the right can be dissuaded from their plan to do the very same thing. They are also in the same business as you, saving the American system of government they imagine made them feel special and privileged and which they fancy you threaten. They have a plan born of hope. We can see what it is.

It is an insanity born of desperation and fear and the delusion it can be saved.

Even without stating your plan, I know it is useless because because all plans are built of the hope to preserve whatever form of personal madness your mind via random past experiences has determined will be effective. Plans are the product of fear which manifest as authoritarian need.

My personal opinion is that you don’t clearly articulate what your plan is but instead seek appeal to me to support you out of my own fear of loss.

So I have a plan that can save the world, yes, but the guarantee of its effectiveness has to be earned. Die to all plans. “There are a million paths in life you can walk and they all lead nowhere.” There is nowhere to go, nothing to achieve, nothing to perfect, nothing to save.

It is all there within you when you see this. All plans are the creation of fear and create what we fear. Planners are fucked and fuck everything and everyone.

A Sufi saying just came to mind: Be in the world but not of it.
 

Pohemi

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I have posted a plan and can do so again.
My personal opinion is that you don’t clearly articulate what your plan is but instead seek appeal to me to support you out of my own fear of loss.

It's maybe opinion and maybe fact. He has NOT articulated this so-called "plan" other than saying we need stop being blind and recognize who the enemy is and prepare. That's it. No more detail or outline.

As I've stated numerous times when he brought it up, "that isn't a plan".
 

MrSquished

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It's maybe opinion and maybe fact. He has NOT articulated this so-called "plan" other than saying we need stop being blind and recognize who the enemy is and prepare. That's it. No more detail or outline.

As I've stated numerous times when he brought it up, "that isn't a plan".


Really. I'll quote myself when I have time to search for one in particular, I'm pretty sure I remember the thread it's in.
 

Moonbeam

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It's maybe opinion and maybe fact. He has NOT articulated this so-called "plan" other than saying we need stop being blind and recognize who the enemy is and prepare. That's it. No more detail or outline.

As I've stated numerous times when he brought it up, "that isn't a plan".
I agree. What I hear is do something to save me. He wants me to do for him what only he can do for himself, die to the ego. I already did. All my plans turned to dust. When all plans are abandoned one is left with The Plan, whatever will be will be. Ride the wave and feel the exhilaration of being butt naked.
 
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