This belief that boomers are as you describe is what makes you a worthless backward ass. The current generation including all the generations alive today voted in Trump. Therefore all the people in America who voted and didn't vote and could or did are filthy assholes. You can really think. Throw the Jew in the well and his whole generation. Resentment makes people small.This isnt about old people. This is about a specific generation that is a problem because they can vote themselves anything. They literally think they had it hard and all the kids these days have it easy and are lazy. This is called being out of touch with reality.
This belief that boomers are as you describe is what makes you a worthless backward ass. The current generation including all the generations alive today voted in Trump. Therefore all the people in America who voted and didn't vote and could or did are filthy assholes. You can really think. Throw the Jew in the well and his whole generation. Resentment makes people small.
I'm a boomer who would like to know where all the advantages I'm supposed to have had went. I guess I was too busy working in the wrong field to make better money and my college degree paid for by myself was in the wrong area. My worse political choice was voting for Nixon twice. Labeling generations is silly.
What makes you think I consider my choices poor? People label everything and everyone. It's human nature but, it isn't always accurate.If labeling generations is silly then why is every single American generation labeled? Sorry you had it bad. I bet you had a better life then someone who makes those same poor choices today.
This blaming of the problems of the present on the past is ancient and all who live long enough get their turn.`Kids these days...
I'm a boomer who would like to know where all the advantages I'm supposed to have had went. I guess I was too busy working in the wrong field to make better money and my college degree paid for by myself was in the wrong area. My worse political choice was voting for Nixon twice. Labeling generations is silly.
What makes you think I consider my choices poor? People label everything and everyone. It's human nature but, it isn't always accurate.
I guess I was too busy working in the wrong field to make better money and my college degree paid for by myself was in the wrong area. My worse political choice was voting for Nixon twice.
This blaming of the problems of the present on the past is ancient and all who live long enough get their turn.`
We have already said this is not about an individual. This is about the entire generation. If we cant look at the numbers and hold people generally accountable for their shittiness because you think that means we are gonna start gassing large groups of people this is your flaw not mine.
You bring up trump but this thread is about 30-40 years of systemic issue. You should use some of that empathic brain of yours to figure out why some kid who cant even get a job in retail and will never see SS is looking to his parents and grandparents generations and asking why?
This blaming of the problems of the present on the past is ancient and all who live long enough get their turn.`
I'm a boomer (snip) my college degree paid for by myself
This is less to pick on Magnus and more as an example because it resonates with me but a large part of the issue is a failure to relate. While you and I both may have paid for our own colleges that almost certainly means a substantially higher monetary concession on my part than yours. This isn't to diminish the sacrifices many made to be eligible for things like the GI bill but any Gen Xer or Millennial faced with a Boomer who says 'I paid for my own college' will scoff at the relatively tiny financial outlay that entailed.
But just as importantly any Boomer faced with criticisms about fossil fuels will scoff at the disparagement conveyed because those weren't issues to be dealt at the time especially given issues like the threat of thermonuclear destruction facing the world.
I do think Boomers made mistakes but many of them came from being in a position a large number of humans have never been in before. The desire to 'have a better life than I did' and not to 'toil in manual labor' are tough to cite as faults but finally hit a tipping point and pushed an over-inflated reliance on college degrees and\or an overly large appetite for consumerism. Parents instinctive desire to protect their young had to push boundaries even farther as the US became progressively safer and safer. "They should have known better" is a hard argument as many Xer's and Millennials continue the same what could now be considered faults. Sure thats what they were taught by the Boomers but where do you think the Boomers got it from?
As for SS I do think there is some give that can be made in a slow and controlled manner but antagonisms over the issue aren't going to get people very far. This is made even harder by the lack of voter turn out among the young compared to the old. While it remains to be seen how well Millennials do when the reigns are in their hand initial signs that they will do things differently aren't good. There are still lots of examples in the country where financial trains are headed towards the cliff with no signs of divergence even though Boomers are largely out of those pictures. It would probably be better to acknowledge there is a human condition issue rather than heaping all the blame on Boomers.
Overall there are enough issues on both sides that mud slinging will just serve to get the 'two sides' to reach into an easily available source of ammo (supplied by the faults of the others) as opposed to conducting constructive discourse. So we can use antagonism to force both sides to dig in and resist give and take or we can all try and work together to figure out compromises (and realize that that often means both sides are not entirely happy with the outcomes)
Lol your generation pissed away all their advantages and now they seek to have younger generations take care of them. Hence the reason no one talks about cutting SS or Medicare for the elderly to fix the issues younger generations will face.
Its ok we will take care of you because we are better than you (generally speaking) but we will be talking shit about you for decades to come. We will continue to smile and fake empathy as you tell everyone how rough your life is and how you had no advantages and how easy the younger generations have it.
But I must point out once again how boomers seem to be completely unable to not make this topic about themselves and lack any introspection about their generation as a whole.
More like for keeping it status quo but when reality strikes they've made things better for the wealthy at their own expense. My elderly parents complain about Medicare yet they voted for him anyway and everything is Obama's and the democrats fault. My mom gets mad when I bring up his history of abusing women but crooked Hillary over Benghazi and her damnable email server are satanic.Why do you think they voted for Trump, anyway? Because he promised to make it the way it used to be, promised to make it better for their kids & future generations.
More like for keeping it status quo but when reality strikes they've made things better for the wealthy at their own expense. My elderly parents complain about Medicare yet they voted for him anyway and everything is Obama's and the democrats fault. My mom gets mad when I bring up his history of abusing women but crooked Hillary over Benghazi and her damnable email server are satanic.
Stop being a generationist! The fact that their generation, the largest in history, voted for politicians that supported policies that were short sighted and damaging to this country and future generations is everyone's problem and laying blame on those who are actually responsible only furthers their resolve in screwing over other generations. Really what we should be doing is giving them hugs and coddling them even more so to shield them from their own horrible decisions.
Do you feel better about yourself now perknose?
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Keep on with the divide-and-rule stuff. It has to be admitted, It almost always works (it's how us Brits built an Empire, after all). Don't ask for more for the young, just demand the old get less. That way there'll be even more loot for the 1%, who are who are the people you really care about. Once you've impoverished the old, they'll then turn their resentment on the young, ordinary people can all pull themselves down in a fit of mutual jealousy, so those at the top don't even have to lift a finger.
But don't kid yourself that nobody can see what you are up to, or that you aren't just siding with the very people who promoted those 'short sighed decisions'.
Like I said, we just have to give them hugs. Maybe we can tell them how great they are and how indispensable they are and then and only then will they start caring about other people besides themselves. We can hope right?! That's how you guys lost all your colonies right, the natives started being real nice and stroking your egos and you guys left out of the kindness of your heart. Right? Its why racism/sexism still exists, because blacks and women just aren't nice enough to white males? If only gen xers and millennials had more respect for the elderly we wouldn't even be in this mess. :hugefuckingeyeroll:
No but seriously, I get it. The younger generations are the new nazis because if we are asking for a little self reflection from the baby boomers we might as well get the ovens warmed up because we all know that's what's coming next.
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No, not 'the younger generations'. Just you and your type (many of whom are older than I am). We know what you are up to, stop bothering to pretend.
Lol! You found me out!
I see my job as preventing the belief and transmission of the notion there is any value in asking such dumb assed questions by pointing out that fact. These problems exist because the boomers were too busy blaming the WW2 generation for tabooing free sex and drugs. If only they haven’t done that everything would be perfect today.We have already said this is not about an individual. This is about the entire generation. If we cant look at the numbers and hold people generally accountable for their shittiness because you think that means we are gonna start gassing large groups of people this is your flaw not mine.
You bring up trump but this thread is about 30-40 years of systemic issue. You should use some of that empathic brain of yours to figure out why some kid who cant even get a job in retail and will never see SS is looking to his parents and grandparents generations and asking why?
Sorry but this says nothing to me. Define ‘these problems’. Specify their age. State the problem in your own words. Do the same by putting ‘the point’ in words.These problems aren't new, that's the point! But you go ahead, die happy knowing those that complain "will get theirs".
I'm not a baby boomer...I would say I find myself defending boomers about 1/3 of the time, and defending Millennials the other 2/3s.
But my gripe about the whole generational-conflict thing, is that it seems to be regularly used as a smokescreen to avoid talking about the divisions that cut across generations.
In particular, affluent, middle-class, white younger people will blame everything on baby-boomers, as a means of ignoring the groups they are part of that are even more 'responsible', in a collective sense, for the ills they are complaining about. They are trying to get their fellow, less well-off, Millennials to not look at them.
Worse, some rich white older people who created most of these problems, will also go on about how awful their fellow baby boomers are, getting younger people riled up about the problems _they_, the most privileged of the older generation, created, but diluting the blame by spreading it onto the less fortunate of that same generation.
The other thing is, the post-war boom in the US started much earlier, and went on longer, than in most of Europe. So maybe your boomers had it a bit easier for longer. Plenty of baby-boomers here barely even noticed the supposed 'good times', if they happened to be working class.
And I still am not sure a young middle-class white American Millennial now would, for example, really want to swap places with a black American in the 1960s.