I'd probably put one of those tracking chips like they do for dogs in my kid. I lose things a lot.
what do you expect? it's the homosexual troll of the forums.
God damnit now he'll start a new thread on whether homosexual trolls are immoral to Americans. With their fabulous bridges.
Go to the kids first checkup when it gets a full load of needles and tell me which is worse.
You guys are crazy.
99% (I made that up) of women in the US have their ears pierced and wear earrings.
Having a baby's ears pierced is very common and the baby usually doesn't even cry.
Even if you wait until they are older (5-10), they will definitely get them pierced because mommy and friends have them pierced.
My niece's ears were pierced at around 6mo. and she is American/Caucasian.
That has practical medical application. Pierced ears do not.
Wrong, any supposed medical benefits/applications are highly disputed and minor even if proven correct. The downside is much worse.
I personally have a son and a daughter, neither were harmed by either, if my daughter wants her ears pierced, she can do so when SHE is old enough to ask.
Wong. My best friend wasn't able to have sex without a circumcision. This is a fact. It is quite common 1 in 100
Yeah well my grandpa stubbed his toe and a week later had cancer. This must mean that stubbing your toe causes cancer.
One persons anecdotal story != truth in all cases.
True. 1% of the populations anecdotal story does = evidence however.
The majority of the world lives just fine the way they were made. Just because some people have fucked up genes that cause them problems that we have to surgically correct doesnt mean it should be the default.
If that were the case why dont we just take babies as soon as they are born and remove their tonsils, adnoids, appendix, gall bladder etc since they have a high probability of causing issues?
You're right. Just because some people have health conditions we shouldn't pre-emptively do anything about it fuck 'em.
You are missing the point. MOST people dont have these health conditions, SOME small % have them. We need not go around removing everything that COULD potentially cause a problem, hence why we dont remove tonsils and appendix "just because"
That's still a silly reason. It's like removing an appendix to prevent appendicitis. No reason to be chopping off parts of the body unless there's actually something wrong with it.Wong. My best friend wasn't able to have sex without a circumcision. This is a fact. It is quite common 1 in 100
That's still a silly reason. It's like removing an appendix to prevent appendicitis. No reason to be chopping off parts of the body unless there's actually something wrong with it.
I'm sure there are some parents that go out and do research on circumcision and carefully weigh the legitimate pros and cons (potentially lower risk of STDs, less risk of complications later in life, reduced sensation, etc.), but let's face it, the bulk don't and just get their kid circumcised for religious or cultural reasons. I think the comparison to ear piercings is perfectly valid.
If it's painless, safe, is a part of the body that serves no purpose and removes a risk of a problem that 1% of the population suffer with. I don't see the downsides. In any event. Your argument was that there is no practical/ medical reason. There is. Whether you agree with doing it for that reason or not is irrelevant. There is a reason, unlike getting your ears pierced.
If it's painless, safe, is a part of the body that serves no purpose and removes a risk of a problem that 1% of the population suffer with. I don't see the downsides. In any event. Your argument was that there is no practical/ medical reason. There is. Whether you agree with doing it for that reason or not is irrelevant. There is a reason, unlike getting your ears pierced.
Is there a downside to letting a man make that decision for himself at age 18?
It's cultural. You know it. I know it. Just because there happens to be some coincidental minor health benefit doesn't change that fact.
There is a downside, skin bridges, erectile dysfunction, disfiguring scarring causing severe "bending" not to mention loss of sensitivity. Its also not painless OR safe, several children die every year from this "safe" operation
I would say there is a downside, growing up to the age of 18 without having been able to have sex with girlfriends could be very scarring.
I'm definitely not arguing that it isn't cultural, sure it is, but that doesn't mean there is sound medical reasoning behind it for some people.
Well then that is the parents right to weigh up the issues. There is still valid medical reason to do it. Whether you would do it to a kid or not, is irrelevant, the point is there is medical reasoning behind it.
You are comparing a situation which is NOT normal to the majority of the population. Thats the reason I keep stating my point and you keep ignoring it. There are other organs that "dont do anything" like the tonsils and the appendix, but we dont remove them because most people dont have that problem. Just because your buddy had an issue doesnt mean we apply the same potentially damaging treatment to everyone just in case.
Well it's a good think we don't apply this treatment to everyone just in case then isn't it.
That's where you are wrong, doctors recommend it all the time because its a quick and easy few hundred bucks. Parents are too dumb to do their own research and make an informed decision for themselves and not go by the word of someone who has a financial stake in the matter.
And in the past many hospitals didnt ask, they just did it.
I see you have your location listed as England, I dont know about there, but here you pretty much have to be very persistent to every Doctor and Nurse around that you dont want it dont because they just assume everyone does it.
having ears pierced is purely cosmetic.
On a side note, circumcision isn't hugely common in the UK.
#1. I would tend to agree, but I would feel like a hyppocrite if i defended my son and not my daughter
#2. I knew this, just didnt want to assume anything