The US middle class people who were offshored by US companies?
Did a lot of them come to Canada as temp foreign workers?
Maybe!
(Just tell the border agents that you are there for "Engineering Meetings" and they'll let you right in! :biggrin: )
Do I have to google statistics for you?Any facts to back that up?
There's no such thing as a shortage of workers- that's merely code for: the citizens here who qualify for the jobs won't put up with crap wages and shitty conditions.
You wear a turban.
http://news.yahoo.com/backlash-stirs-us-against-foreign-worker-visas-135208422--finance.html
So we're bringing in 'skilled' people because we have a shortage yet we have our citizens 'train' them and then the same citizens are let go?
Nice. We have tech. openings and they aren't even posted here? The US worker didn't even get a chance.
I guess it's not only the 'human garbage' (per one of the smug people here) workers (like manufacturing, etc) that are getting outsourced. Ah hell, we can all sit at home, collect government checks and never work again and we import our way to prosperity...in both items and labor. Life will be a paradise.
and our dumbass Senate (both Democrats and Republicans - just like so called 'free trade') decided that we need even more while at the same time stripping out language that we must look at US candidates first? I guess the top 'job creators' need more talent and more money to create more jobs.....but not for US citizens. They are too expensive and need not apply (except for a credit card to buy the stuff - must buy the stuff).
Here's a crazy idea. Let's stop buying from companies that hire only foreign workers. I guarantee you that things will change quickly!
Maybe somebody should put together a website that highlights companies who refuse to hire American workers.
Sorry to disappoint you but this is about as close as anyone in my ancestry ever got to a turban.
Mind you, I had an ancestor who wore one of these and it kinda looks like a turban. I'll leave it up to your vivid imagination as to which of these chaps my ancestor looked like.
And, you are still a liar.
http://news.yahoo.com/backlash-stirs-us-against-foreign-worker-visas-135208422--finance.html
So we're bringing in 'skilled' people because we have a shortage yet we have our citizens 'train' them and then the same citizens are let go?
Nice. We have tech. openings and they aren't even posted here? The US worker didn't even get a chance.
I guess it's not only the 'human garbage' (per one of the smug people here) workers (like manufacturing, etc) that are getting outsourced. Ah hell, we can all sit at home, collect government checks and never work again and we import our way to prosperity...in both items and labor. Life will be a paradise.
and our dumbass Senate (both Democrats and Republicans - just like so called 'free trade') decided that we need even more while at the same time stripping out language that we must look at US candidates first? I guess the top 'job creators' need more talent and more money to create more jobs.....but not for US citizens. They are too expensive and need not apply (except for a credit card to buy the stuff - must buy the stuff).
Do I have to google statistics for you?
Whenever you hear an industry talk about having "a shortage of workers" it's bullshit. There's no such thing as a shortage of workers- that's merely code for: the citizens here who qualify for the jobs won't put up with crap wages and shitty conditions.
Around here there is/was defiantly a shortage of workers.
Companies including McDonalds etc kept raising the wages they offered and still were not getting any bites.
Anyone who wanted to work could do so and make decent money
RBCs move would see at least some of the contracted workers come to Canada as temporary foreign workers to be trained for their jobs by the current workers who are losing theirs.
While RBC has now admitted their move was insensitive, the controversy obscures the fact that thousands of Canadian employers use temporary foreign workers.
And while the program is ostensibly designed to help employers fill positions when no Canadians can be found to do the job, the use of this program at companies like Tim Hortons and Dennys suggests employers are using it much more broadly than originally intended.
Critics of the TFW program say its been made all the worse by two new elements of the program: The ability of employers to pay TFWs 15 per cent below market rates; and the creation of a new fast-track process for approving some of the TFW applications.
the only STEM shortage is in the minds of CEOs.
I don't believe there is a shortage of skilled technical workers in this country. When a company says "We can't find any skilled technical workers, so we have to import them," that is corporate-speak for "We can't find anyone in the US who will work as cheaply as foreigners."
Labor Condition Application
The U.S. Department of Labor (DOL) is responsible for ensuring that foreign workers do not displace or adversely affect wages or working conditions of US workers. For every H-1B petition filed with the USCIS, there must be included a Labor Condition Application (LCA) (not to be confused with the labor certification), certified by the U.S. Department of Labor. The LCA is designed to ensure that the wage offered to the non-immigrant worker meets or exceeds the "prevailing wage" in the area of employment. ("Immigration law has a number of highly technical terms that may not mean the same thing to the average reader." [38] last updated 2011 March 31, visited 2012 November 5) The LCA also contains an attestation section designed to prevent the program from being used to import foreign workers to break a strike or replace US citizen workers.
While an employer is not required to advertise the position before hiring an H-1B non-immigrant pursuant to the H-1B visa approval, the employer must notify the employee representative about the Labor Condition Application (LCA)or if there is no such representation, the employer must publish the LCA at the workplace and the employer's office.[39][40] Under the regulations, LCAs are a matter of public record. Corporations hiring H-1B workers are required to make these records available to any member of the public who requests to look at them. Copies of the relevant records are also available from various web sites, including the Department of Labor.
Employer attestations
By signing the LCA, the employer attests that: [45]
The employer pays H-1B non-immigrants the same wage level paid to all other individuals with similar experience and qualifications for that specific employment, or the prevailing wage for the occupation in the area of employment, whichever is higher.
The employment of H-1B non-immigrants does not adversely affect working conditions of workers similarly employed.
On the date the application is signed and submitted, there is not a strike, lockout, or work stoppage in the course of a labor dispute in the occupation in which H-1B non-immigrants will be employed at the place of employment. If such a strike or lockout occurs after this application is submitted, the employer must notify ETA within three days, and the application is not used to support petition filings with INS for H-1B non-immigrants to work in the same occupation at the place of employment until ETA determines the strike or lockout is over.
A copy of this application has been, or will be, provided to each H-1B non-immigrant employed pursuant to this application, and, as of the application date, notice of this application has been provided to workers employed in the occupation in which H-1B non-immigrants will be employed:
Notice of this filing has been provided to bargaining representative of workers in the occupation in which H-1B non-immigrants will be employed; or
There is no such bargaining representative; therefore, a notice of this filing has been posted and was, or will remain, posted for 10 days in at least two conspicuous locations where H-1B non-immigrants will be employed.
The law requires H-1B workers to be paid the higher of the prevailing wage for the same occupation and geographic location, or the same as the employer pays to similarly situated employees. Other factors, such as age and skill were not permitted to be taken into account for the prevailing wage. Congress changed the program in 2004 to require the Department of Labor to provide four skill-based prevailing wage levels for employers to use. This is the only prevailing wage mechanism the law permits that incorporates factors other than occupation and location.
The approval process for these applications are based on employer attestations and documentary evidence submitted. The employer is advised of their liability if they are replacing a US worker.
I will agree with you to a certain extent however, there is a shortage of skilled heavy industrial equipment mechanics in this country. Younger people are not willing to work in hot, less than perfect environments or spend several weeks away from home and the older mechanics (traveling or those that work in the plants) are retiring. This personnel shortage affects refineries, chemical plants, paper mills, power houses, and factories that utilize this equipment as well as companies that repair and service the equipment.
the "shortage" can be fixed by raising the salaries to a point where that work is attractive again.
the "shortage" can be fixed by raising the salaries to a point where that work is attractive again.
So, the foreign worker must be paid equal or higher than the prevailing wage. That means that the worker cannot out compete the US citizen worker on price. This means that they are beating out US workers on skill/productivity.